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Allanon said:
That definitely makes sense. Everyone is focused on ballot fraud for the presidential elections, as well they should be, but it's often - if not more often - used in local elections instead.

Incidentally, the more people actually vote, the less effective voter fraud is. There's less percentage of registered voters they can use to vote. If you end up with 10,000 votes and only 7,000 registered voters, you immediately know at least 3,000 votes are fake or invalid.

Also it's probably been discussed already, but Biden's campaign manager in a video that got yanked right off youtube, said that the Biden poll numbers 'are inflated' and he doesn't have a double digit lead, when trying to encourage Biden voters to get out there. We already know it's inflated, but if they're even admitting it's inflated, it's very skewed.

Also, Road to 270 continues to lie even with its own data. Trump is +2% in Michigan and they're showing it leaning blue. They finally moved AZ to 'toss up'.

By comparison, MI is +2 Trump and pale blue, and NV is +2 Biden and pale blue, AZ is +3% Trump and 'toss up'. There's a couple of other states that Biden has a similar lead in where it's a toss up, but once again, they've given him a 'pale blue MI' because it gives him the win. Take away MI and Biden no longer has the votes. (Also more of Trump's +2 or 3 states are toss ups, making him look like he has way less electoral votes, coyly suggesting Biden could landslide)

I decided to go look at the polling again, applying the same formula, and NH has plummeted from Biden being +13~ to only +8. Trump flipping NH is highly likely. Biden also lost ground in VA.

Current numbers if +6% shift - 301 (this has Pennsylvania going blue which isn't happening), 286 if NC is stolen. +8% - 322, with 307 if NC flips, and the big boy of +12% is 326 (311) with NH flipped, and tantalizingly close to flipping VA (12%), ME(13%), NM (14%) and CO (15%) (just for fun that'd net him 353 EC/338 ) - in short, even if they did steal NC, Trump doesn't need NC, he needs the rust belt.
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I should note that its not Trump +2 in Michigan, its R+2.

All the polls going around are, at least D+3, but more are D+5, +8 or even +10 and beyond. And early and mail voting which all data suggests highly favors Biden shows R+2 (in 2016 the real vote was D+9).

That means that on currant data, all polls in MI can be moved at least 5 likely 10 points to Trump.

As well I saw a little earlier an article about how the Biden campaign are worried about minority turn out, which had buried in it the fact that currently Miami-dade, a district Clinton took by 30 points, is R+9. Which, while I can not believe will hold up is hilarious non the less.

My only worry at this point is that Trump supporters may be so motivated and pissed off that they all rushed out to vote as soon as they could and so there will be nothing left in the tank on tuesday.
 
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SirAndrey said:
Well from what i remember around the time of that photo was taken, a few months ago i recall. It was not an incel meetup but a meetup for the republican club in said university/campus (im not sure) and then someone put up a flier which said incel meetup at the location the club would meetup.View attachment 1697710
I remember that noone on any incel forum had posted this. The poster looks sketchy as fuck. An account showed up in a thread regarding this poster and claimed to be the one who put up this poster and that he was an incel. Though it was obvious that he wasnt an incel because he had 0 postings on the incel subreddit before this "event".
So basically it was someone in the university that put up an incel meetup poster where the republican club on the university/or campus (im not 100% sure) was having their meetup. The people on the pictures are not incels. And if anything incels would not go out and take a picture when they are ugly+they know many people are out to get them simply because they are incels. I mean the poster looked fake as fuck aswell. And noone that appeared on the meetup ever posted on the incel forums/subreddits. View attachment 1697713
What i mean by "(im not sure)" is that im not sure if it was a campus or a university. Im not so good with american school system. But it was one of those 2.
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I'm honestly surprised only guys showed up. If I had come across such a poster, I would have assumed it was sarcastic and would have probably showed up for the lols. These guys aren't particularly ugly, either.

Gehenna said:
The gun issue is -dead- for the forseeable future. A lot of people, when their backs were against the wall, found out they are VERY in favor of gun ownership.
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Same with police brutality, unfortunately. The antifa speds frightened conservatives so much that I'm sure many now have a lot of empathy for the cops and won't want to hear about problems with the police system because it reminds them of autistic communists throwing violent tantrums.
 
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Mysterious Girlfriend X said:
They never memory-holed their hatred for either of those presidents, especially Reagan. The bitterness towards Reagan and the resentment towards the public that elected him was what defined the American left for a generation. That's how it's going to be with the current generation of leftists and Trump.
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Reminds me of this old Canuck comedy bit that my parents had recorded for some reason. It goes through the evolution of life as if they were commenting on an actual race, until we end up with Homo Sapiens and a sudden 'Ronald Reagan drops the bomb and that's the end of the human race!".
 
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X Prime said:
Please explain what stops someone from simply postmarking the ballots falsely.
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tl;dr when you place your ballot in the mail, it gets entered into the federal mail system and post marked there. Any attempt to fuck with the mail gets you 5 years PER INCIDENT, so fucking with 20 ballots could be a life sentance. Basically you'd need to compromise multiple postoffices to degrees that could swing the election. You will be harder pressed to find people willing to play along because of the increased penalties and chance of detection.

IF there is corruption/voter fraud, it will be done at the county or district offices under the direction of corrupt election officials (or under the noses of incompetent ones) not at the federal mail level. Why try to buy off a post office and leave lots of loose ends when you can just cast a proxy vote for some corpses and drop them off in the boxes yourself?
 
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Allanon said:
THERE IS NOBODY WHO SUPPORTS TRUMP, WE'LL LANDSLIDE HIM OUT

PEOPLE PUBLICLY SUPPORT TRUMP AND THIS IS PROOF THAT WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF NAZISM.

Choose one and only one.

Nazis rose to power because Germany lost WW1 and then became utterly economically crushed. Then Hitler showed up and was like 'the world just bullied us into the ground, and also the economy fell apart because we're being oppressed by people born with privilege! Follow me, and I'll rebuild Germany, rebuff the world, and throw down the oppressors' and then there was a false flag terrorist attack which scared people.

Trump says "Screw the world, I'm going to fix this country's economy," America hasn't lost any wars, our economy was never (in Trump or Obama's era) as bad as Germany's post-WW1, Trump isn't blaming a group of people for having privilege and oppressing the rest of us, and he's 19 years too late to use a false flag terrorist attack to institute sweeping changes that violate basic rights and give the government way too much power. The two situations are incomparable. Just because you're pissy that not everyone votes the way you do doesn't mean Nazis are taking over.
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Supporters of Nazism are actually becoming more common because of progressives who keep bullying Whites and the giant taboos around questioning the popular narrative around WW2. Don't be surprised if you see the skinhead subculture make a comeback in the next decade.

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I don't think the Nazis will be a big deal anytime soon, though. They're still a tiny subculture and I can't imagine them getting any kind of political power in the Western world if they can't get members of races they call "subhuman" on board. We'll see how things develop, I guess.
 
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Flexo said:
You underestimate how entitled and picky women can be.

Barnes insists he doesn't look at polls but at voter registration. Could be interesting come Tuesday.
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So how come the fat neckbeard in the Reddit meetup has a kid? I know there's "lol cuckoldry" but he has to find someone to get cucked. Maybe incels are paranoid in addition to being spergs and that helps repel women.

Edit: It's all bullshit, it was actually a Republican meetup that some sperg tried to tar as an "incel meetup", as per SirAndrey's post.

Angry New Ager said:
Hate to break it to this dude, but in the apparently unlikely event Trump loses, he's still got a bigger and even more enthusiastic following than he's ever had, and the people who have come to support him are going to want to hear what he has to say.

So, if Kamala Harris manages to ride into office in the Trojan Horse of a Biden presidency (because that's what the DNC has been planning all along), Donald Trump is going to have a lot to say about that, and people are going to show up to hear it, because he pulls no punches and is one funny motherfucker. He could start a podcast--I know there are plenty of skilled people who would be more than happy to get him off and running--and be the biggest fucking thorn in the Dems' side for the next four years. And whoever he backs in 2024 is going to get a huge push, straight out of the gate.

Even if he loses the presidential election, he won't be defeated, and won't fade away into quiet irrelevancy. Are you kidding? He's Donald fucking Trump.

One other thing I saw yesterday: two separate individuals wheeling out carts with multiple cases of disposable masks. Now, maybe they're business owners with on-site employees, go through masks quickly, and were stocking up to avoid possible future shortages. But it was the first time I'd seen that. I didn't think to look at hand sanitizer, gloves, peroxide, or any of the other stuff panic buyers grabbed up back in March.


I'm still a registered Democrat, and I voted for Trump, as well as a bunch of other Republicans, and No on a bunch of progressive measures that I might have voted Yes on as recently as two years ago.

I know I'm a weirdo, but I can't be the only old-school liberal Democrat who either voted for Trump, voted third-party, wrote in a candidate (I was going to write in Tulsi Gabbard before committing to Trump)--or just decided, "Fuck it; this is a solidly blue state, so I'm sitting this one out."
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And the TDS crew is likely still riding the fantasy that Trump will be imprisoned on a slew of corruption charges the instant he leaves office, so they'll never see it coming.
 
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Some Random Soul said:
You have to remember, Trump also needs Pennsylvania and Florida, as those have been critical states especially the first time. Given that Biden and Kamala are outright wanting to ban a lot of what keeps Pennsylvania's economy running as a whole, I expect Trump to carry that state, but then again you never know.

It's also quite accurate that Biden's campaign would be outright admitting their poll numbers are inflated. There would not be businesses being boarded up and prepared for ensuing riots if an accurate pollster had him with a 14 point lead.
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There's no way Florida isn't a lock for Trump. They love him down there, and they're one of the only states that went through minimal coronavirus restrictions. No one is going to look at how the rest of the country was brought to its knees by the restrictions they refused to implement on themselves and go "Yes, let's vote for the guy who will force those on us!" Pennsylvania I was also apprehensive of - he has the incumbent bonus, and Amish have already indicated they're voting for him again, and they're the ones who won it for him last time, but the shock of it flipping last time would make the Dems redouble their efforts there.

Once Biden self-destructed in the debate, though....Trump should have it handily. As mentioned before, aside from Florida, it's really just a matter of how much of the midwest he can take. Which should be 'all of it' due to the oil thing.
Gehenna said:
This is why I hold out a small hope that Trump will just KILL it at the ballot box, storm both the college and popular vote and the democrats just break down for the next 12 years minimum. Its TERRIBLY unlikely so keep your optimistic ratings to yourselves. But it would be the best thing, as Trump populism would reign in himself and his immediate successor. Gives the democrats time to really sort their shit, and would mean a return to the center for the nation.


Its a hope. A forlorn one though.
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Theoretically Biden only has a 5 point lead in the NPV poll, so it reasonably would be possible for Trump to pull off a popular vote victory on top of the EC....but that'll never happen because of California. Too many illegals, too much voter fraud. It's ironic, because the cheating in California makes it so that it's actually pointless. Neither side factors California into a path to win at all, it's just a 55 point handicap for all R presidents that they regularly overcome. The popular vote is also useless, so the Cali cheating always only amounts to 'boohoo electoral college is cheating!!' because if they could only destroy it, California would win them every election. (though, as Trump pointed out in 2016, if Republicans started campaigning for the NPV instead of the EC, the Democrats may not like the results)
April Ryan said:
I should note that its not Trump +2 in Michigan, its R+2.

All the polls going around are, at least D+3, but more are D+5, +8 or even +10 and beyond. And early and mail voting which all data suggests highly favors Biden shows R+2 (in 2016 the real vote was D+9).

That means that on currant data, all polls in MI can be moved at least 5 likely 10 points to Trump.

As well I saw a little earlier an article about how the Biden campaign are worried about minority turn out, which had buried in it the fact that currently Miami-dade, a district Clinton took by 30 points, is R+9. Which, while I can not believe will hold up is hilarious non the less.

My only worry at this point is that Trump supporters may be so motivated and pissed off that they all rushed out to vote as soon as they could and so there will be nothing left in the tank on tuesday.
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Recent polls indicate ~60% of Rs and general Trump voters have refused to do advanced voting and plan to do it on the day of. Even in mail-in states, there's a ballot drop off box so people can do it on the day of if they want to. I intend to do it Monday or Tuesday myself, I almost never vote early. Never know what might change my mind about something, or what might happen to early ballots between the time they arrive and the time they're meant to be counted.

IMO moving all polls 5-8 points in Trump's favor is reasonable given last election, and I wouldn't rule out 12+. It was an outlier for Hillary, but I think they're spoofing polls even harder this time, and Biden is, somehow, even less likeable than Hillary.
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There are a couple of instances every year, but this is the first mass attempt I've read about.
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Last time I believe there were several instances of 'more voters than are registered', but they were in deep blue places so it didn't matter, since Trump won anyway.
 
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Bakarina said:
Press x to doubt, the truck drivers probably didn't realize the supposed single biden/Harris supporter on the road and decided that they were going to hit it and cause potentially hundreds of dollars in repairs. It was probably a regular ol fender bender that happens every day
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What actually happened was the Harris supporter tried to run one of the Trump trucks off the road by merging into it. He's lying about a crime his side was responsible for. Straight out of Saul Alinsky.
 
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Shaka Brah said:
That weird Jewish exec really has her by the balls. Is it just that he owns all her master tapes, or is there some other blackmail they're holding over her?
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Besides her master recordings being held hostage? Longstanding rumors (starting from least likely to most likely)

1. Taylor is secretly a very much closeted lesbian suffering from Liberace syndrome (meaning that she can't come out as gay due to her male fanbase and her longstanding habit of turning her relationship drama into hit songs)
2. Taylor wants to get into acting and she has to bend the knee and sing the anti-life equation for the Democrats to get movie roles
3. Taylor's currently at a crossroads with her career. She's left her original label, so she's either going to have to self-release her shit at great personal expense plus pay out of pocket for touring and promotion (IE music videos) or endure unfriendly contract deals with other big time labels, who now have irrefutable proof that Taylor peaked commercially with 1989 and that Reputation underperformed and Lovers was a HUGE fucking flop that effectively killed all of the momentum Taylor has been riding on, to the point Taylor rushed out a country album to try and make a quick buck, since Lovers sold so fucking badly to refill her bank account and coffers. Which means any future deals she has will come with strings attached and demands that she sing the anti-life gospel when ordered in order to get a big front end contract with guaranteed priority promotion and a promotional budget that is the size that Taylor is accustomed to.
 
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