2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Truthboi said:
Honestly I don't see how Trump can win Wisconsin without winning Michigan because those two states seem to be connected to each other or mostly vote the same with some exceptions.
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IIRC, they're not fucking with votes in WI as in MI. Also the whole Kenosha thing probably put a fire under a lot folks ass to not vote Biden.
 
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millais said:
Why are all these Republican voters supposedly waiting until Election Day to vote? Is there some kind of security advantage to voting on Election Day as opposed to in person early voting? I would think that it's safer to attempt in person early voting to avoid any logistical foul ups on Election Day or standing in line for hours and not ending up able to cast a ballot.
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Truthboi said:
I think it's because early voting is concentrated to very few areas in each city, there are a lot more lines for early voting this year compared to others, and there are some worries over early voting being sketchy to some
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CrippleThreat said:
They believe that it minimizes the chances/time their governors/state officials, whom they distrust, will commit voter fraud due to how late their ballots will come in, a la Election Day.
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X Prime said:
They think the Dems will prepare more ballot fraud if they vote early, whereas a large surge on Election Day is more difficult to prepare fraud for.
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You all are missing the single most important reason of all. Tradition. "November 3rd, voting day" is ingrained in the conscious in America. Its an event, a tradition, a thing going back centuries. It just -feels- special to vote on that day. I am willing to bet that if you stopped most of them and asked, after a bit of hemming and hawing it'd come down to that.
 
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Gehenna said:
You all are missing the single most important reason of all. Tradition. "November 3rd, voting day" is ingrained in the conscious in America. Its an event, a tradition, a thing going back centuries. It just -feels- special to vote on that day. I am willing to bet that if you stopped most of them and asked, after a bit of hemming and hawing it'd come down to that.
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Also Trump has been pushing for In person voting over vote by mail.

Powerlevel: I voted by mail the other day. Only really did it because I couldn't be arsed to leave home to do so. Also my state just annouced masks are mandatory in public. Fuck that. And I already had the ballot in my possession. So why not.
 
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I see that a lot of people have been getting excited over the Wisconsin R+8 electorate that is supposedly happening for early voting. If that is the case, that is good news for Trump since Republicans are more motivated to vote than Democrats. There is a problem.

Wisconsin does not register party preference. That means the result that is posted on NBC News may not reflect how many Republicans and Democrats actually voted. I have always been highly suspicious of why Wisconsin and Michigan's early voting seems to favor Republicans while Democrats lead in Minnesota and Pennsylvania by double digits. Even Baris has warned people not to take TargetSmart data at a face value, at least for states that do not register party preference.

I know that Baris did post this,

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But I have always been confused about how inferred party code works. From what I gather, it seems like this is just guessing how people might vote. Even Baris in his video discussing Wisconsin appears skeptical of the result he found. I would not blame him. I just don't buy that Trump's electorate in Wisconsin, one of the hardest states for him to keep, is that favorable.
 
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So going forward can Kiwifarms agree to shill collectively in every avenue of life against the trustworthiness of electoral polls?
These frauds are trying to imagineer a narrative of shy Trump voters coming back, and Biden supporters getting cold feet to make sure a couple of the final polls put it in the margin of error for Trump to win. Not good enough. Far too little, far too late.

We all know polls exist today to push certain agendas, as their existence is intended to suppress some voting blocs and energise others. If someone thinks there's momentum for something, they either want to be part of it, or stubbornly oppose it. What the last year of fraudulent polls have attempted is nothing short of voter suppression against Trump voters. Whether Biden wins or not, it's not going to be by 10 points! It'll be lucky to be by 2 points in most meaningful states, yet we have polls saying Biden up 17 which are somehow ready for showtime?

We need this to be public knowledge going forward. The Cope Brigade will be out in full force, just like in 2016 with muh popular vote, or in 2018 when the Blue Wave never happened. The retort is typically how Trump isn't a usual candidate, or the 3rd parties got in the way, or a corona-shaped variable. Not to be rude, but these are pollsters, yeah? It's supposed to be their job to factor this in, but have spent the year omitting it all because somebody with money doesn't want Trump to be president anymore.

I'm not asking KF to begin buying ads making fun of Nate Silver. Simply drop in conversation from now on the total fantasies most pollsters come up with a fortnight before polling, and the drip drip drip up until election day that they pull to scoop back their credibility. They don't deserve that. The country puts far too much stake in the output of people who should know better, but consciously misinform.
To keep fucking up like this on purpose? They don't deserve to be taken seriously. Again, maybe they're right about Biden winning, I'm open to that possibility, but their output this year has been so insane and unsubstantiated that I've tuned out all of them except the secondary variables Kiwis have brought up.
It would genuinely be better there be no polls in future elections. Going in blind is better than such openly flawed models being waved around authoritively. If I dare to say it, it's fake news
 
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millais said:
Why are all these Republican voters supposedly waiting until Election Day to vote? Is there some kind of security advantage to voting on Election Day as opposed to in person early voting? I would think that it's safer to attempt in person early voting to avoid any logistical foul ups on Election Day or standing in line for hours and not ending up able to cast a ballot.
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I have always voted in person on election day. I did look into early in person voting out of convenience, but my state does not use tabulation machines for early in person voting until 7 days before the election. At that point, may as well wait until the real day.
 
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How anti-Trump rage does the left have in the tank? Enough for 4 more years? Or will they be burnt out by mid-term?
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I think Suicides start happening, the way the left has lived for the past 4 years isn't remotely healthy and continuing to do it will only lead to people murdering their precious dog babies and yeeting themselves.
 
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So going forward can Kiwifarms agree to shill collectively in every avenue of life against the trustworthiness of electoral polls?
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The 2016 weren't catastrophically wrong like everyone claims. Most of them predicted the popular vote pretty well, and the electoral landslide came from Trump barely squeaking by in multiple states, sometimes by less than 1%. It looked like a ridiculous failure of the pollsters because of the EC blowout but in reality the difference between a Blue landslide and Red landslide was just a couple of points nationwide.

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Belligerant busybodies who think they have to make sure everyone votes for who they like or the sky WILL fall.

My friends are kind, but misguided. Some insist on trying to get EVERYONE to vote just so they don't have to fear Trump in the white house anymore. They really think that 4 more years with Trump is bad for everyone and their soft heartedness and empathy for others can cloud their judgment into asking me "SO DID YOU VOTE WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR". They're panicking because they can't control the situation. It's a strange time in liberal millenial zoomer USA land. They really are sweet and fun people, they're just asking because they need to feel like theres some control in the world and to connect with people over it. :(
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Well tell them to go fuck themselves it's incredibly rude to ask people who they voted for.
 
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millais said:
Why are all these Republican voters supposedly waiting until Election Day to vote? Is there some kind of security advantage to voting on Election Day as opposed to in person early voting? I would think that it's safer to attempt in person early voting to avoid any logistical foul ups on Election Day or standing in line for hours and not ending up able to cast a ballot.
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I can only speak for myself. Sure, I'm not a Republican (I'm listed as Unaffiliated) but hey.

This year is the first time I have ever voted early, and that was because of A) Impatience to get this shitty election over with and B) I heard a report that some polling stations were going to be shutdown due to COVID, so I didn't want to chance not being able to vote on election day.

But in previous elections, I was always skittish about early voting. Adding extra steps and people in between to the process, in my paranoid mind, opens it up to get my individual vote screwed up somehow. I have to trust more people and additional processes to go right, as opposed to just filling it out and dropping it in the box where I'm at least 90% sure it'll get counted (I never fully trust anything, I'm weird). Also, I've found its easier to take off or get into work late or leave early to go vote on election day. The boss never puts up a fuss and instantly understands and other people do the same, so its kind of an understood thing. Also, my state's polling places have always been pretty efficiently run. I think the longest I've ever been inside my polling station is 20 minutes. In 2016, I was there right as it opened and I was the third person in line, and I was out of there just in time to grab the first cup of coffee outside at the little table they had set up. With all of that, it never really dawned on me to vote early for any reason.

This year was the first time I did, and even then, I still went in person and made sure my ballot checked out like I would have if I had gone on election day.
 
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