Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

[A_Callow_Youth]

The slave trade did end. it took a couple decades because Britain needed to stop slave ships from exiting Africa, but largely after 1830 there was no one who dared defy British international law. Slaves as a workforce still existed for a long time, and we're seeing them reemerge today

I'm going to reply to this one instead because you just made my point: it took violent action by the British government to put an end to the slave trade. Gun control does not fucking work, at least in the US, because the government does not have the logistical and manpower resources required to make it work.

You know what, fuck it, have an edit, too.

People will largely comply with bans if they're economically alright. Prohibition worked before the great depression but not after it.

No, no it fucking didn't, America's entire pop culture in the '20s was mobsters, moonshine and rum running.

 

[Spoonge]

I'm not an American. But I watch and comment on your politics for two reasons.
1) What happens in D.C spreads across the globe. We're your allies, have been since WW2. We've followed America into Korea and 'Nam and the Middle East. Where you go next we'll end up following as well.
2) Our politics are boring as fuck. Every one of our leaders are boring non-entities. I could name two dozen major political figures in the US because love them or loathe them they're actual people and not empty fucking suits, full of corruption, spite and insanity.

Now let the drunk shitposting roofucker on his rare day off tell you why I think every Australian, no, why every citizen of a non Chinese country on the South China Sea, should be praying for a Trump win.

The signs have been pointing towards serious conflict in my region for years now (aggressive territory disputes, manmade islands etc) and this year it's gone from 'yeah might happen' to 'yeah it's going to happen'. Down here we've dumped massive amounts of cash into our military, secured our fuel supplies and started purging Chinese spies from our country despite the obviously compromised facets of our economic and political circles decrying these actions and saying that we are too weak to fight China and should just roll over because of 'trade'.
These are not the actions of a country expecting peace.

And when the firestorm erupts down here I'd rather have the man thats been decrying China since 2016 in the White House over fucking Biden who was part of an administration that showed their belly to the CCP. This scandal with Hunter and the trail of connections that have started linking old Joe to the Commies are even more worrisome and just confirm suspicions I've had since 2008. Suspicions I've had of numerous western politicians, not just American.

They're all in the pockets of the CCP. Just like too many of our leaders are.

I couldnt tell you where I read it because it was years ago. But I remember thinktanks in the US saying that the years of US dominance were over and that it would be best if America just sit back and quietly die while China takes over. It could have been dems. It could have been neocons. I dont know. But Trump has proven himself to be neither over the past four years with his blatant de-escalation of Middle East wars, and thats enough for me to love the man.

But if Trump is so anti-war why would he go to war with China?
Because China is going to force the issue. They've gone off the rails this year. They've pissed off India. They've made claims on one of Russia's most important ports. They've got half the world lobbying to crucify them over the wuflu. They've had serious flooding and food troubles, and they've got growing dissent in the party ranks as shown by the ongoing Hunter saga. They have to move soon or they won't be able to move at all.

War's coming kids, and it ain't going to be a civil one.

 

[Lhotse]

I'm expecting a Trump win while the Dems win the Senate. Four years of nothing getting done.

 

[Psychic Espeon]

The early voting from MI and WI is strongly suggesting they are staying red. Trump just needs to hold onto the South and Southwest, and he can let PA eat Philly Cheese Steak. I wouldn't be surprised if he disputed a PA loss just to rack up his score and drag dems though the legal mud for awhile.

By the way, if the Cheeseheads decide to break away from their midwestern brothers, we're in for civil war.View attachment 1700883

Whatever happens, I think people on both sides are going to be in for a big surprise.
And the base that supports the losing candidate will probably be throwing tantrums on Social Media for a while.

 

[Captain Manning]

I honestly am curious to see how you think Biden is going to take it. What do you base it off of?

1. The fact that I think it's improbable the pollsters fucked things up twice. If they did, they should all kill themselves en masse tomorrow night. That would just be the most embarrassing thing ever.

2. The fact that Trump's biggest asset going in this election, a healthy economy, has been shit all over by Wu Flu.

Friendly reminder that the predictions people make in this thread should NOT be taken as the poster's desire (unless they explicitly say so).

Also, it warrants mentioning that Cenk ain't gonna be completely happy if Biden wins tomorrow. The stupid fuck straight up said that Biden can't beat Trump, but Bernie could. TYT already lost earlier this year. We can still shit on them regardless. So, there's that.

 

[Psychic Espeon]

1. The fact that I think it's improbable the pollsters fucked things up twice. If they did, they should all kill themselves en masse tomorrow night. That would just be the most embarrassing thing ever.

2. The fact that Trump's biggest asset going in this election, a healthy economy, has been shit all over by Wu Flu.

Friendly reminder that the predictions people make in this thread should be taken as the poster's desire (unless they explicitly say so).

Also, it warrants mentioning that Cenk ain't gonna be completely happy if Biden wins tomorrow. The stupid fuck straight up said that Biden can't beat Trump, but Bernie could. TYT already lost earlier this year. We can still shit on them regardless. So, there's that.

Cenk will never be happy.

 

[Elric of Melnibone]

Silver just released a New Article stating that a Trump Victory is Still Possible:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/im-here-to-remind-you-that-trump-can-still-win/

One issue for pollsters here could be the rate of ballot spoilage. Because of processing delays, some mail ballots won’t be received by states’ deadlines. And voters might not complete the instructions correctly, as we’ve already seen in Pennsylvania with the issue of r “naked ballots”, that is, voters forgetting to enclose their ballot in its extra, secrecy envelope.

Oh my god did no one at the DNC or 538 take into account stupid people? They forgot that mail in voting requires people to fill out their ballot 100% correct and mail it properly and on time with no help. Anyone that has ever, EVER worked customer service should know the folly they have set themselves up for. Just go find a door that says push, and watch how many people fucking pull on it.

 

[bearycool]

My response to this entire thread:

 

[A Logging Company]

Whatever happens, I think people on both sides are going to be in for a big surprise.
And the base that supports the losing candidate will probably be throwing tantrums on Social Media for a while.

To quote a Cuties apologist: AOL was a mistake.

 

[IDBigBootieBitcheZ]

I'm not an American. But I watch and comment on your politics for two reasons.
1) What happens in D.C spreads across the globe. We're your allies, have been since WW2. We've followed America into Korea and 'Nam and the Middle East. Where you go next we'll end up following as well.
2) Our politics are boring as fuck. Every one of our leaders are boring non-entities. I could name two dozen major political figures in the US because love them or loathe them they're actual people and not empty fucking suits, full of corruption, spite and insanity.

Now let the drunk shitposting roofucker on his rare day off tell you why I think every Australian, no, why every citizen of a non Chinese country on the South China Sea, should be praying for a Trump win.

The signs have been pointing towards serious conflict in my region for years now (aggressive territory disputes, manmade islands etc) and this year it's gone from 'yeah might happen' to 'yeah it's going to happen'. Down here we've dumped massive amounts of cash into our military, secured our fuel supplies and started purging Chinese spies from our country despite the obviously compromised facets of our economic and political circles decrying these actions and saying that we are too weak to fight China and should just roll over because of 'trade'.
These are not the actions of a country expecting peace.

And when the firestorm erupts down here I'd rather have the man thats been decrying China since 2016 in the White House over fucking Biden who was part of an administration that showed their belly to the CCP. This scandal with Hunter and the trail of connections that have started linking old Joe to the Commies are even more worrisome and just confirm suspicions I've had since 2008. Suspicions I've had of numerous western politicians, not just American.

They're all the pockets of the CCP. Just like too many of our leaders are.

I couldnt tell you where I read it because it was years ago. But I remember thinktanks in the US saying that the years of US dominance were over and that it would be best if America just sit back and quietly die while China takes over. It could have been dems. It could have been neocons. I dont know. But Trump has proven himself to be neither over the past four years with his blatant de-escalation of Middle East wars, and thats enough for me to love the man.

But if Trump is so anti-war why would he go to war with China?
Because China is going to force the issue. They've gone off the rails this year. They've pissed off India. They've made claims on one of Russia's most important ports. They've got half the world lobbying to crucify them over the wuflu. They've had serious flooding and food troubles, and they've got growing dissent in the party ranks as shown by the ongoing Hunter saga. They have to move soon or they won't be able to move at all.

War's coming kids, and it ain't going to be a civil one.

Not only that but the Hong Kong protests as well.

 

[Spoonge]

1. The fact that I think it's improbable the pollsters fucked things up twice. If they did, they should all kill themselves en masse tomorrow night. That would just be the most embarrassing thing ever.

2. The fact that Trump's biggest asset going in this election, a healthy economy, has been shit all over by Wu Flu.

Friendly reminder that the predictions people make in this thread should NOT be taken as the poster's desire (unless they explicitly say so).

Also, it warrants mentioning that Cenk ain't gonna be completely happy if Biden wins tomorrow. The stupid fuck straight up said that Biden can't beat Trump, but Bernie could. TYT already lost earlier this year. We can still shit on them regardless. So, there's that.

The pollsters got Florida very wrong in 2018. All of them did. And this wasnt just local journos, the major outlets were all watching Florida for that race.
They didnt fix shit. They stuck their heads in the sand and pretended that it never happened.

 

[Psychic Espeon]

The pollsters got Florida very wrong in 2018. All of them did. And this wasnt just local journos, the major outlets were all watching Florida for that race.
They didnt fix shit. They stuck their heads in the sand and pretended that it never happened.

And because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if Florida remains with Trump.

 

[Least Concern]

Whoever wins, I look forward to this being the main theme of America for the near future.

It's pretty catchy and upbeat. Just what we need to get through the never ending crazy madhouse that is current year.

I like this one, which might sound vaguely familiar if you played video games in the mid-'90s.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

All these guesses on who wins arn't any fun. You need to introduce an element of risk! Bet something!

I'm so confident that Trump will win, that if he doesn't, I'll change the people in my avatar to have shitheads until the next election.

 

[SimoHayha]

Bet big with Trump. Its free money with the odds I'm seeing

 

[legalkochi]

1. The fact that I think it's improbable the pollsters fucked things up twice. If they did, they should all kill themselves en masse tomorrow night. That would just be the most embarrassing thing ever.

2. The fact that Trump's biggest asset going in this election, a healthy economy, has been shit all over by Wu Flu.

Friendly reminder that the predictions people make in this thread should be taken as the poster's desire (unless they explicitly say so).

Also, it warrants mentioning that Cenk ain't gonna be completely happy if Biden wins tomorrow. The stupid fuck straight up said that Biden can't beat Trump, but Bernie could. TYT already lost earlier this year. We can still shit on them regardless. So, there's that.

In response to your point about pollsters, yes its probable that they're gonna fuck up polling even worse. There's a lot problems with polling that even some of the pollsters admit, such as the inability to actually poll white working-class voters that are not college-educated. In addition, they cannot poll voters that have registered to vote this election (and I have a feeling that a lot of them are gonna be voting for Trump). Their distribution is horrible and significantly undercounts/misses rural areas (which are gonna break heavily for Trump, and will be the areas with the highest turnout this election). And they are weighing the polls based off of 2012 and 2008 turnout, not 2016 turnout. 90% of the black voting population will NOT turn out for Biden as they did for Obama.

They also base the polls off of thinking that there will be a high youth voter turnout too, and that's not actually showing up in the early vote nor will they show up for election day. The Wu Flu actually fucked that up, because Democrats cannot host events on college campuses urging these students to vote, and a lot of these students probably aren't even in the county right now to be able to vote.

It's just funny how actual early vote demographics are showing that the polls are dead wrong. The electorate so far seems to be more male, more white-working class and more predisposed to the Republican Party. A lot of those conservative low propensity voters that haven't voted for the past several elections or so are actually turning up in full force to vote for Trump and straight Republican Party ticket.

That's not even accounting for the Democrats that will be crossing to vote for Trump too. There will be a significant Democrat crossover vote for Trump and the Republican Party.

And as for your second point, there have been several polls that show Trump is trusted more on the economy than Biden. In addition, the economy is already recovering for the past few months and counting. The Wu Flu is not gonna be the millstone on Trump, but rather on Biden.

The pollsters haven't learned a damn thing and it looks like 2020 will humiliate them even further, if not send them further into irrelevancy.

Also, the fact that a Gallup poll released recently showing that 56% of Americans say that they're better off than they were four years ago shows that Trump will win big. In that same poll taken in 1984, 44% said they were better off than they were four years ago and that was the year Reagan and the Republicans won in a massive landslide.

When you take a step back and look at the big picture, none of these translate to a Biden victory. It translates to a Trump victory.

 

[Negev]

I'm hoping trump will win purely because he at least did some things I liked and I expect biden to just be a puppet for harris or the dems in general since he is barely alive, But honestly I dont think trump winning will fix much, we still have shit states that will stay shit no matter who is president, and unless we get some politicians who arent complete retards or just in it for the money we will probbaly get someone shit 2024. I would prefer someone who just does shit for the good of america and preferably all of the democrats and most of the republicans getting dragged into the street and hung for crimes against the nation. Sadly we are fucked probably either way.

 

[Captain Manning]

The pollsters got Florida very wrong in 2018. All of them did. And this wasnt just local journos, the major outlets were all watching Florida for that race.
They didnt fix shit. They stuck their heads in the sand and pretended that it never happened.

That may be so, but tomorrow night will be the first apples to apples test.

Like I say, if they're massively wrong again, as they were in 2016, they should all do a synchronized kickflip off a bridge. Their credibility should be shredded forever.

 

[Things Better Forgotten]

Either way I'm working on a playlist for the Blue Igloo. Making sure I've got a full tank of gas, loaded magazines, and two weeks of food.

 

[MrJokerRager]

For any normal people needing background on this election.

Here is the official thread for praising Trump.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-official-thread-of-the-2020-geotus-presidential-campaign.75321

Here is the official thread for seeing how demented is Sleepy Joe.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/joe-biden-news-megathread.69229

Here is the deep thoughts thread where people have been agonizing for months before Null did over who will win the 2nd American Civil War.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/2020-u-s-presidential-election.53249