2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Yup, not going to happen. The situation here would have to be unimaginably worse before the military would even think of a coup. Also important to remember not all military would be on board with any coup. What if attack pilots wanted to strike something and the ground crews told them to fuck off, their planes would not be fueled and armed? What if military units trying to suppress freedom fighters found half the troops wouldn't fight their own people?

Not going to happen. Any talk of any "coup" is just media wishful thinking.
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The enlisted might hesitate. The officers, not so much, they're pozzed Swamp creatures.
 
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Spoke to someone I know in PA, she's overhearing poll workers talk about how there are issues with polling machines in multiple places with one of the machines apparently having the wrong hardware installed or something like that. Dems must be desperate.
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How does this issue last to election day?
 
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The enlisted might hesitate. The officers, not so much, they're pozzed Swamp creatures.
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You can't stage a coup with just the officers. If any part of the chain of command (including mechanics and logistical personnel) mutinies it all breaks down.

Assad almost lost the war in Syria because a lot of his army defected. Russia and Iran saved his bacon.
 
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Here's an interesting precedent for a disputed US election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1876_...Electoral_disputes_and_the_Compromise_of_1877

It was drawing perilously near to Inauguration Day. The commission met on January 31. The cases of Florida, Louisiana, Oregon, and South Carolina were in succession submitted to it by Congress. Eminent counsel appeared for each side. There were double sets of returns from every one of the states named.[18]

The commission first decided not to question any returns that were prima facie lawful.[18] Bradley then joined the other seven Republican committee members in a series of 8–7 votes that gave all 20 disputed electoral votes to Hayes, giving Hayes a 185–184 electoral vote victory. The commission adjourned on March 2. Hayes privately took the oath of office the next day and was publicly sworn into office on March 5, 1877; Hayes was inaugurated without disturbance.[18]

During intense closed-door meetings, Democratic leaders agreed reluctantly to accept Hayes as president in return for the withdrawal of federal troops from the last two still-occupied Southern states, South Carolina and Louisiana. Republican leaders in return agreed on a number of handouts and entitlements, including Federal subsidies for a transcontinental railroad line through the South. Although some of these promises were not kept, in particular the railroad proposal, it was enough for the time being to avert a dangerous standoff.

The returns accepted by the Commission put Hayes' margin of victory in South Carolina at 889 votes, the second-closest popular vote margin in a decisive state in U.S. history, after the election of 2000, which was decided by 537 votes in Florida (though in 2000, the declared margin of victory in the Electoral College for George W. Bush was five votes, as opposed to Hayes' one vote).

Though it is not possible to conclude definitively what the result would have been if a fair election had been held without the violence and intimidation throughout the South that disenfranchised many African Americans made eligible to vote under the 15th Amendment,[21] in the likeliest fair scenario, Hayes would have won the election (with 189 electoral votes to Tilden's 180) by winning all of the states that he did ultimately carry, plus Mississippi, but minus Florida.[21] In a truly fair election, it seems probable that South Carolina, Mississippi, and Louisiana, which all had majority-black populations, would have gone Republican, while Florida, with a majority white population, would have likely gone to Tilden.[21] It is therefore likely that Hayes would have won appreciably more of the popular vote in a fair election, perhaps even a plurality or majority.[21]
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The Democrats eventually conceded close to election day with the quid pro quo that the Republicans would pull Federal troops out of the South. At that point, Redeemer Democrats disenfranchised black voters there and dominated the region for decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1877

The Compromise of 1877 was an unwritten deal, informally arranged among U.S. Congressmen, that settled the intensely disputed 1876 presidential election. It resulted in the United States federal government pulling the last troops out of the South, and formally ending the Reconstruction Era. Through the Compromise, Republican Rutherford B. Hayes was awarded the White House over Democrat Samuel J. Tilden on the understanding that Hayes would remove the federal troops whose support was essential for the survival of Republican state governments in South Carolina, Florida and Louisiana. The compromise involved Democrats who controlled the House of Representatives allowing the decision of the Electoral Commission to take effect. The outgoing president, Republican Ulysses S. Grant, removed the soldiers from Florida. As president, Hayes removed the remaining troops from South Carolina and Louisiana. As soon as the troops left, many white Republican carpetbaggers also left, and the "Redeemer" Democrats took control. They already dominated other state governments in the South. The exact terms of the agreement are somewhat contested as the documentation is insufficient.[1]

Black Republicans felt betrayed as they lost power and were subject to discrimination and harassment to suppress their voting. By 1905, nearly all black men were effectively disenfranchised by state legislatures in every Southern state.[2]
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Of course, now the Democrats' least favorite race is white people, not black people around the Civil War or native Americans around the Trail of Tears so any compromise would presumably disenfranchise them.

Meanwhile, the NYT muses on how the US system would deal with a disputed election. Because they expected Trump to be the one who failed to concede, not Biden, it's actually kind of an interesting read. Basically, because the system takes so long and has so many people involved there are multiple chances for party officials to concede.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/01/opinion/us-election-transition-legality.html
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Truthboi said:
One thing that worries me is if theoretically Trump wins, the news will still report Biden winning the election?

Could this scenario happen?
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It was always a possibility, but I think its becoming less likely. The general mood and rhetoric of the major talking heads I've been watching has changed a lot in the last few days from "He has no chance of winning" to "we just have to wait and see".

Earlier this morning their was a state representative from PA on Fox who worked for the Biden campaign and he was asked why focus has shifted on to PA in the last days. He chose to answer with the confusion over late votes and the need for a legitimate election, which is an example of the type of stuff we'll see if there's any uncertainty about the outcome nationally tonight.

But the mere fact people are thinking a supposed landslide election might come down to PA at all isn't being lost on people. The potential delay in results coming out of PA wasn't something the DNC and friends just realized in the last few days, we've known how states would handle ballots for months including PA and the recent court decisions didn't change things that much. What has changed is the notion that a clear result out of PA might be necessary to avoid days of uncertainty.

The DNC has been working in PA these last few days to hopefully run up the vote count to the point we'll know who won the state tonight, but if they were so certain in Biden's numbers across the nation they could have just went to other in-play states to run up the numbers there so PA would have just been an afterthought.
 
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That fucking moon, lmao. Last night I was wondering if it had gotten bigger but I thought I was just drunk.

I'm still seeing a lot of hilariously optimistic claims about Biden leading in states like Florida. I wonder how long they'll hang on to that? I'm guessing the morale will start to drop this afternoon, but we'll see.

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Anyone else getting Cloudflare errors? Of course, the DNC would DDOS the Farms on Election Day. Douchebags.
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Ruin said:
Site's been running like absolute shit for me for a few days now
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Beginning of the month. Isn't that Vordrak's designated autism period?
 
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