2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Harvey Danger]

Yeah, Trump has won this thing as far as I'm concerned. I assume you're following this map here? https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/elections/live-results-2020-us-presidential-election/ The only question now is if he can beat the Dems attempt at stealing the election.

I'm wondering if Baris' map isn't taking VBM outstanding into account when showing the % reporting in. Back when he was talking about FL, I noticed the reporting percentages were correct, but they "stalled" at 99% while the Florida Divisions of Elections reported the county hadn't finished completing VBM, Early Voting, or Provisional Ballots.

As the evening went on, and some of those segments were checked off, I noticed the county proportions didn't change, so I figured his map was useful enough to keep checking. But maybe that correlation only holds up in Florida. I don't know FL's specific rules for counting/reporting, or how they compare to other states. It still looks like only half the counties finished counting VBM, and almost none of them finished provisional ballots.

Near the end of the night it sounded like Baris had a feed with the numbers of VBM outstanding, he was quoting them to Bannon on stream. So maybe his map already takes it into account and it just doesn't display the number, while he can see the raw feed behind the scenes.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I still firmly believe we would not be seeing this shit had COVID (and the disgraceful political polarization of it done by politicians and the media) not happened.

Back in January? I had Trump almost guaranteed for a landslide. And I still believe it would have happened if 2020 didn't turn out being such a catastrophic asshole of a year. January, especially after his State of the Union, looked so hopeful ... Weeks later, it all went to shit, and the shit just will not CEASE.

I did say a year ago to family members that "Trump is guaranteed to win 2020 easily, barring something cosmically terrible happening." Welp, COVID was that "something cosmically terrible," from the looks of it.

Listen, I think Trump has won this thing, and I think that it will be the end result. However, nobody can deny the influence the mainstream media has over Americans right now, no matter how hard we try to convince ourselves that alternative media is crushing it. COVID got more than enough Americans scared and willing to fork over their civil liberties for "security," and it has been really disheartening to see.

Trump victory or not, I think this country is in some serious trouble, and I don't think that 4 more years of Trump is enough to fix it. The media's corrupt behavior tonight plus the riots we are already seeing ... Yeah, I am definitely discouraged as an American about where we are headed.

 

[FuckedUp]

... Is this fake?

No, it was like this for a minute. It was Milwaukee county IIRC.

 

[heyitsmike]

Looks like somehow Susan Collins is gonna win reelection which I did not think she was gonna be able to pull off.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I'm wondering if Baris' map isn't taking VBM outstanding into account when showing the % reporting in. Back when he was talking about FL, I noticed the reporting percentages were correct, but they "stalled" at 99% while the Florida Divisions of Elections reported the county hadn't finished completing VBM, Early Voting, or Provisional Ballots.

As the evening went on, and some of those segments were checked off, I noticed the county proportions didn't change, so I figured his map was useful enough to keep checking. But maybe that correlation only holds up in Florida. I don't know FL's specific rules for counting/reporting, or how they compare to other states. It still looks like only half the counties finished counting VBM, and almost none of them finished provisional ballots.

Near the end of the night it sounded like Baris had a feed with the numbers of VBM outstanding, he was quoting them to Bannon on stream. So maybe his map already takes it into account and it just doesn't display the number, while he can see the raw feed behind the scenes.

I mentioned it before, but RCP was reporting 96% votes recorded in GA until it started reporting 85%. Baris' map was consistent with RCP, at least.

Meanwhile, NYT stalled vote percentages for GA at 91%-92% and just outright froze NC at 95%.

 

[Stoneheart]

There's been a lot of documented evidence of eletronic vote tampering, which is why every actual democratic country hand counts their ballots. Trump once said he wanted hand counted, ballots, that was great! But the thing is Republicans never spearhead that effort locally, only Dems do.

Why even bother when you dont have to show an ID?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I still firmly believe we would not be seeing this shit had COVID (and the disgraceful political polarization of it done by politicians and the media) not happened.

Back in January? I had Trump almost guaranteed for a landslide. And I still believe it would have happened if 2020 didn't turn out being such a catastrophic asshole of a year. January, especially after his State of the Union, looked so hopeful ... Weeks later, it all went to shit, and the shit just will not CEASE.

I did say a year ago to family members that "Trump is guaranteed to win 2020 easily, barring something cosmically terrible happening." Welp, COVID was that "something cosmically terrible," from the looks of it.

Listen, I think Trump has won this thing, and that will definitely be the final result. However, nobody can deny the influence the mainstream media has over Americans right now, no matter how hard we try to convince ourselves that alternative media is crushing it. COVID got more than enough Americans scared and willing to fork over their civil liberties for "security," and it has been really disheartening to see.

Trump victory or not, I think this country is in some serious trouble, and I don't think that 4 more years of Trump is enough to fix it. The media's corrupt behavior tonight plus the riots we are already seeing ... Yeah, I am definitely discouraged as an American about where we are headed.

Yeah and given how it is going to be clear that even if/when Trump wins this election, the dems are going to win the next election because the political pendulum is going to be strong. Unless Trump puts his A-game in the second term and does more great things, we will get back to business as usual in 2024.

 

[MeltyTW]

Let me explain how paperless DREs work. You press a button and you trust a program to count it for you, and the central tabulator to not fuck with it. That's it, no evidence if they do. No protection for your vote. 0, nada. Hackers hold competitions to see how fast they can hack ES&S scanners and DREs and it takes them approximately 15 minutes. And it'd take a a trusted election official 1 second in their official capacity.

So 1 central tabulator can trash millions of votes and there would be no evidence. The fact that paper is found in the trash makes mail-in voting less susceptible to manipulation than DREs.

As far as scanners or DREs with a paper trail, the recounting laws are so weak that one could get away with massively changing the vote as only a small % of the paper ballots would ever need to be hand counted, and would only be triggered in very small result margins that a manipulator would avoid.

There's been a lot of documented evidence of eletronic vote tampering, which is why every actual democratic country hand counts their ballots. Trump once said he wanted hand counted, ballots, that was great! But the thing is Republicans never spearhead that effort locally, only Dems do.

i never discounted your dre stuff i actually iirc said id look into it, informative though

So is it just me or is anyone else under the impression that it's some blatant fraud? Trump got over 270 but they're literally expanding the number of votes post facto, on every state on his favor, and none in favor of Biden. I'd say grab your guns now, it's getting real.

yeah this pretty much shows how much america really is a an anyone can make it democracy

Yeah and given how it is going to be clear that even if/when Trump wins this election, the dems are going to win the next election because the political pendulum is going to be strong. Unless Trump puts his A-game in the second term and does more great things, we will get back to business as usual in 2024.

after this is doesnt matter since were getting more neocons nearly indistinguishable from dems anyway

 

[jenstark101]

Why even bother when you dont have to show an ID?

so it's now your position that elections aren't fair and it should just be a dumb might-makes-right fight after voting because only Dems have the gumption to fight locally for election integrity.

the Dem counties that use hand counted ballots are from mostly white coastal cities with very few ethnics, I don't know their ID laws

 

[Hot Dog]

So they just stall out. Was the tyt meltdown good?

 

[Eris!]

so it's now your position that elections aren't fair and it should just be a dumb might-makes-right fight after voting because only Dems have the gumption to fight locally for election integrity.

Right makes Might. An army of Jesus Christ which bears his holy cross cannot be beaten. God wills it!

 

[jenstark101]

Anyway I'm gonna call this election a narrow win for Trump with another popular vote loss for repubs, and some congressional losses for repubs. He might win cuz of Pennsylvania, most other states are up in the air, and I wouldn't be for shutting down their voting lol.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Yeah and given how it is going to be clear that even if/when Trump wins this election, the dems are going to win the next election because the political pendulum is going to be strong. Unless Trump puts his A-game in the second term and does more great things, we will get back to business as usual in 2024.

I think we'll know the true trajectory of this country in 2022. 2022 has the potential to either be like the 2006 midterms (signaling the pendulum swinging hard left), or like 2014 (a referendum against bad leftist policies).

The first step is to get COVID the fuck away from dominating our national dialogue and letting it control our everyday lives. I think that should be Trump's top agenda for his second term. If he can do that, then I think the GOP will be in pretty good shape. If the Dems allow it to control the national dialogue throughout most of next year, though ... Then I think that can signify trouble.

 

[Stoneheart]

so it's now your position that elections aren't fair and it should just be a dumb might-makes-right fight after voting because only Dems have the gumption to fight locally for election integrity.

Who blocks every ID law? Dems...
Who send out all those unrequested mail ballots? Dems
Who thinks they should count mailed in Ballots even weeks after the election? Dems...

Im all for Paper Ballots, on election day!, and more polling stations.

The US system has far bigger problem than machine voting...

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I wanted to wait until one more state (NC) was called, but these fucks aren't letting up and I'm just tired, both physically and mentally. They're only doing this because they're still mad that their queen didn't get in four years ago and this is them punishing the American public. Funny that, since even their own followers have to suffer as well, but they'll blame everyone else but themselves because they gaslit themselves into secretly liking feeling oppressed and being fearful. These people need to grow up and move on, or they need some serious help.

Trump calling them out tonight was a brief adrenaline shot ngl, and I hope they go through with getting people and places looked into. This is just ridiculous. I think it's kinda funny that the map has virtually gone unchanged four years later (Arizona going blue being the only thing that's different, but even that comes off as suspect) but it's a sign of things to come. Populism is going to get taken into a back alley and skinned alive after this so something of this caliber doesn't happen again, fuck what the American people want.

No fucking wonder Hillary told the Biden to not concede. I think they were looking forward to this scenario, or at least was hoping that they would've gotten away with it, and they totally would've were it not for those pesky Trump supporters and Cubans.

Seriously, day of the rope for the MSM when?

 

[heyitsmike]

Yeah and given how it is going to be clear that even if/when Trump wins this election, the dems are going to win the next election because the political pendulum is going to be strong.

I disagree. I think if Trump wins the GOP is almost guaranteed to win 2024.

If Trump loses, it's due to fraud. But it's only close enough to lose by fraud because of his personality and temperament. They make him more effective, but they also make it harder to win.

But if you remove Trump and replace him with a Hawley or Cotton or Noem, what is there to turn off squishy suburban voters? Nothing really. You wrap Trumpism in a non Trump package and you're in business.

As for the Dems, if they lose, this election is like an event horizon. You don't know what's on the other side. We have no way of knowing what the Democratic Party will look like in a year, let alone four years.

 

[jenstark101]

Yeah and given how it is going to be clear that even if/when Trump wins this election, the dems are going to win the next election because the political pendulum is going to be strong. Unless Trump puts his A-game in the second term and does more great things, we will get back to business as usual in 2024.

If the Dems run a progressive they're toast against Tucker Carlson in 2024 or whatever. I think Romney is right that America is "center-right" and part of why we're given the choice btw Biden and Trump.

The left has only won made gains for themselves America through violent rioting to the point that people get scared, or through blackmailing Dems with third parties. Worked for them in the early 20th century. But I wouldn't condone or propose riots and it'd be better for the "left" to just build an alternative party through splitting the Dem party and going after the highest offices they can.

 

[X Prime]

https://twitter.com/mattsmith_news/status/1323914505638809601

They are going for the steal in Milwaukee.

 

[Random Internet Person]

https://twitter.com/mattsmith_news/status/1323914505638809601

They are going for the steal in Milwaukee.

Checking 270towin, if results hold, Trump still wins even if Biden takes Cheeseland.

 

[jenstark101]

The US system has far bigger problem than machine voting...

If you think more votes have been changed by random Mexicans voting 3 times in a row for funsies vs untraceable electronic vote manipulation by people with no accountability and the power to change millions of votes, I think you are blinded.

If we want IDs for voting everywhere all the time then IDs should be mandatory and state issued so everyone has one. But then that would be "commie" and the reps would fight against it.