2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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God, I hope for a Trump win, but am doubtful now. I think American culture and politics really needs it.

This election will have bad outcomes. The first is that Dems will rule all for a long time as they create multiple things in place to retain all power and continue the Obama, Clinton legacy. This means no change, a thing that will only benefit the complacent. Many want this, but they do not see that it is very bad, even for them. Anything they want changed, anything they think should be improved, it will not be done as Dems have no reason to change. A vote for them is a vote for mediocrity. The lives of the poor, blacks, and young will end up harder as the Dems will control it all thus can keep going without being challenged. This outcome is like if PlayStation or XBOX was the only console, if so, then they would produce half-baked products that cost a fortune. I especially take issue with Bernie Bros like Vaush that honestly believe voting Dem is a win for them. Bernie’s policies will never be a thing if Dems win. They already know they will vote, so why do anything to look appealing to them.

The other outcome is the eventual collapse of the Dems. If Gen Z trends red, and Dems remain in power, who is to say the Gen after Z is not also going to be red. This could be another Bush, putting two gens back-to-back with the same political beliefs. If this happens, prepare for this type of election all over again, but with a Dem underdog. This is going to get ugly and Republicans will get out of control doubly so, which will only hurt Millenial and probably Gen X voters at some point as they refused to transfer power when it was most necessary. This is only going to create a massive red wave in the coming generations and since the Dems are likely cheating, you will have some high powered republicans that will dash all concerns of Dems and have a platform for justification.

Either way, we need Donald. Both sides need Donald, even if they do not realize it. Having the standard 2 2 system keeps from this craziness, Donald and likely another Republican are needed for wins as to set us back on track and raise Dems up again, but this, this is terrifying.
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Dude, calm down, it's going to the USSC.
 
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Aidan said:
They won't even call Alaska and it's not really in play at this point. The bias is so absurd.
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Reminds me of the elections back home really. Media was carrying water for the government all the way and only calling a seat for the opposition when they couldn't run away from it any longer.

I did not expect to see this here in the US as well. Not even in 2016 it was so blatant.
 
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I decided to check the bellwethers myself. I just looked at the significant list on wikipedia and then checked each county individually. There are 24 in total. I make brief comments on a couple. There are a bunch of others but they're not considered as major. I will also state that this is at the time of this post, so some may shift afterwards

Valencia County, NM - Red
Vigo County, IN - Red
Westmoreland County, Virginia - Red
Ottawa County, Ohio - Red
Wood County, Ohio - Red
Kent County, Delaware - Blue (Disregarding what Biden says about Scranton, I consider Delaware to be where he's from so I think this was always going to go for him)
Coös County, New Hampshire - Red
Essex County, Vermont - Red
Juneau County, Wisconsin - Red
Sawyer County, Wisconsin - Red
Sargent County, North Dakota - Red
Blaine County, Montana - Blue
Clallam County, Washington - Blue
Stanislaus County, California - Blue (incorrect in 2016, this is also Modesto)
Ventura County, California - Blue (incorrect in 2016)
Merced County, California - Blue (incorrect in 2016, this is also Merced)
Hidalgo County, New Mexico - Red
Bexar County, Texas - Blue (incorrect in 2016, this is also San Antonio so I take this one as maybe no longer being reliable due to demographic change)
Val Verde County, Texas - Red (incorrect in 2016, admittedly the fact that this flipped may contradict my above hypothesis, any Texans able to input further on these counties?)
Hillsborough County, Florida - Blue (incorrect in 2016, this is also Tampa)
Calhoun County, South Carolina - Red
Colleton County, South Carolina - Red
Darlington County, South Carolina - Red
Washington County, Maine - Red

15 of them broke for Trump. It's interesting to note the divide. These are all counties that regularly go together. The ones that were incorrect in 2016 and went blue I think may be shifting blue in general but Val Verde may be an exception. I will be very curious to see what happens and which ones end up being wrong.
 
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If after all of the absolute fuckery that has gone down AZ and NV save the day and PA holds despite the ultrapozzing this year will go down in history as the biggest rollercoaster in the history of american ellections. Here's hoping!

Either way, even if Trump wins he needs to utterly and completely fucking cull the democrats in front of the SC for this bullshit, and pass some serious ellectoral checks for 2024 and on. This simply cannot be allowed to happen again.
 
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You can't tell me that Biden couldn't fill a McDonalds while Trump had multiple overflow stadiums each and every time he appeared anywhere and it's somehow close. There is no such thing as the "Shy Biden Voter."
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No, but there is such a thing as a disengaged voter, who can't be bothered to go to the polls. Except this year, he's sitting at home doing nothing and the ballot came to him.

I think there's an excessive amount of fuckery going on here, and we're dealing with fraud. But the reason it's possible is because the VBM scheme worked. It's pulling votes from people who wouldn't vote in a normal year, and that's providing cover for all the fraudulent votes. They usually have to hide the fraud within the in-person voting numbers, because absentee numbers are too small. This year, the absentee vote is large enough to fuck with.

Trump's team should have been challenging ballots for weeks before the election, maybe even months. The 100% Biden vote dumps are the giveaway that fraud is happening, but they aren't the start. This has been quietly happening in a trickle long before Election Day itself.
 
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
God I hope so, I do not want a traitorous Alzheimer's patient for a president.
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Don't forget his cackling, smirking witch of a successor.

The silver lining is that if Trump is going down, he's going down fighting. I'd rather they drag him from the White House in handcuffs than see him bend the knee in shame.
 
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WuTangClan2299 said:
Fuck it, I'm going to sleep with the assumption that Biden won off of bullshit cheating. At least that way if Trump wins it would be surprising.
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Can't say I wasn't expecting this bullshit to happen when I made my earlier post.

So can anyone explain to why the fuck states are holding off counting till tomorrow if it wasn't to fuck with the votes.
 
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