2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Gustav Schuchardt said:
The thing about voter fraud is that it's done by desperate people under severe time constraints. It's not out of the question some of this will get found out and reversed.
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Aaa0aaa0 said:
This is what I'm trying to get across to my brain. Even with the amount of voter fraud going on, to say that nothing could possibly fuck up from the high chain to the low chain is naive. Like sure the brass may know what they're doing but Nicky doing the gruntwork will probably fuck up like he did his college education.
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Yes, there's always a weakest link.

That we find one of them is what we can hope for.
 
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StarkRavingMad said:
To me, this is very telling:

If Biden truly got 70 million votes, then how and why was he unable to make a huge difference in the Senate, and why did the Dems lose seats in the House?

You get THAT much enthusiasm for a candidate, and they make little to no difference in Congress? Weird, weird, weird.
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This actually isn’t suspicious if you factor in Never Trumpers.
 
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StarkRavingMad said:
To me, this is very telling:

If Biden truly got 70 million votes, then how and why was he unable to make a huge difference in the Senate, and why did the Dems lose seats in the House?

You get THAT much enthusiasm for a candidate, and they make little to no difference in Congress? Weird, weird, weird.
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Early mail-in ballots combined with fraud combined with Orange Man Bad. That's unironically it.
 
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I've seen these kinds of mistakes before. Sometimes someone gets stopped by security accidentally walking out of a store with something they forgot to pay for under their jacket. After security points out their innocent oversight they're usually embarrassed & happy to admit their oversight & return their item.
 
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Meat Target said:
I wear a mask not to protect myself from the coof, but because if I hear anyone call Trump or the GOP "white supremacist" ever again after this, I might start foaming at the mouth and biting them.
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A lot of this must be attributable to demographic shifts: you're looking at the latinxxx/??? vote now instead of the Black vote.

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Don't let anyone tell you that there are no serious problems with mail-in voting after this absolute fucking shitshow of a presidential election.
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Mail-in voting saved Democracy from Fascism, no serious problem there. I really only hope that nobody pesters me about the importance of voting ever again: it's become one of those things, like roads and children's education, that I can rely on the government to do for me.
 
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There’s no winner in the presidential race. That’s OK​

By WILL WEISSERT today

WASHINGTON (AP) — America woke up Wednesday morning without a winner of the presidential election. That’s OK.

Critical battleground states including Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania remained without declared winners, leaving both President Donald Trump and Democrat Joe Biden short of the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the White House.

This isn’t necessarily a surprise. In a year turned upside down by the coronavirus pandemic, many states made it easier to vote by mail, and millions chose to do so rather than venturing out to cast ballots in person. That meant a slowdown in the tabulation of results because votes received by mail often take longer to process than ballots cast at polling places.

And the closer the margin in a state is, the more votes are needed for The Associated Press to declare a winner.

There are also roughly 20 states that allow ballots received after Election Day to be counted if they were postmarked by the day of the election. That includes Pennsylvania, one of the key outstanding states.

Some states, including Florida, began counting absentee ballots days before Election Day — and had definitive results within hours of the polls closing. The AP declared Trump the winner in Florida.

The abundance of absentee ballots also has thrown into doubt historical norms, making the arc of the race harder to determine — though one political narrative that held for sure is that the country remains evenly divided between both parties.

None of that means there is anything wrong with the results, or any reason to doubt the vote-counting process. It just means the country doesn’t know who won the presidential election for the time being.

And we don’t yet know when we’ll know.

The delay doesn’t signify a positive for one side or the other — even though it has provoked radically different reactions from each.

Biden took an outdoor stage in Delaware shortly before 1 a.m. Wednesday and said the country needed more time to determine its next president, declaring, “Your patience is commendable.”

“We knew because of the unprecedented early vote, the mail-in vote, that it was going to take awhile,” Biden said. “We’re going to have to be patient until the hard work of tallying the votes is finished, and it ain’t over until every vote is counted.”

Trump spent months railing against expanding mail-in voting and suggesting without evidence that it could lead to widespread fraud, while imploring with equal fervor that the election should have a result on the same night the polls closed. In the early morning hours of Wednesday, he told a crowd of cheering supporters at the White House that he would challenge the election results before the Supreme Court, though it was unclear exactly what type of legal challenge he was proposing.

That prompted a statement from Biden campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillion, who said: “If the president makes good on his threat to go to court to try to prevent the proper tabulation of votes, we have legal teams standing by ready to deploy to resist that effort. And they will prevail.”

Vote tabulations routinely continue beyond Election Day, and states largely set the rules for when the count has to end.

The U.S. has endured a presidential race without an immediate winner before. In 2000, a Supreme Court ruling on Dec. 12 — more than a month after Election Day — ended the Florida recount and awarded the presidency to Republican George W. Bush over Democrat Al Gore.

This time, media outlets including The Associated Press and others frequently warned a delayed verdict could occur — suggesting that an election where campaigning was so disrupted wouldn’t escape seeing its conclusion get scrambled as well.
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Eds: Story has been updated to correct that 2000 Supreme Court decision came more than a month after Election Day, not more than two months

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nigger what. fuck you.
 
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