2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Parthenos said:
Honestly it sort of a relief to know that the mask is off for Fox now.
A while ago I was debating with my dad about how the MSM was joined at the hip with the Democratic Party and he replied that FOX did the same thing with Trump. No, I think that bridge is well and truly burnt last night.
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Same. I was trying to tell my dad about how Fox is pozzed. He argued back about Tucker and the Five and Hannity, saying that if it really were pozzed then those people wouldn't be on the show. When I showed him the video of the black anchor being astonished and them quickly cutting away from Trump Barbie showing riot footage, that's when the cracks started. I also brought up how Fox was NeverTrump coverage-wise until the riots.

Last night my dad was so furious and upset with Fox that it wasn't even 15 minutes of watching them that he asked me if there were third-party places to watch. We watched DecisionUSA together, and he said that the PPD guy was someone he really liked.

I made some noises about "told you so", in a joking way to keep spirits up. He frequently checked the Fox Business site until he saw something g that mad him not look at it permanently.

While I am a little ashamed to feel some "I told you so", it was really sad seeing him be crushed. He was an avid O'Reilly watcher, as his voice is what I grew up hearing. He and my mom watched Glenn Beck and the Five.

While I'm glad he finally dropped the MSM, it's still hard and sad to see someone realize that the thing he enjoyed/trusted realize that it was subverted. (I told him that it always was, but he thinks they were on Bush's side due to being Repubs, and not uniparty.)

I can empathize, as I had always laughed at the Satanic Panic people until I went through what felt like an existential crisis reading the Finders papers.
 
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Bibendum said:
Oh no doubt. It'll be a repeat of the Obama years, with scandals swiftly swept under the rug and a complete unwillingness on the part of the media to criticize the administration in any way. Even if the economy worsens and COVID continues to take a serious toll, the media will declare that Biden is ushering in the return of normalcy and prosperity.
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Which, looking on the bright side, may lead to history rhyming.

Trump wasn't lying when he said Obama and Biden were the reasons he ran (and won). People may have short term political memories, but the administration was despised by 2016. Want to see what happens when you have a second go at it, without the glow of Obama's first years?

You get the populists getting pissed enough to curbstomp you again.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if cheating was anticipated, leaked like a sieve beforehand, & was documented in detail. It's something I keep seeing lately: everything now leaks way more than it used to at that level but some people keep doing stuff like it's the early 2000s. Like the stakes convince them that it's worth the risk.

Highly consequential interactions between the world's most powerful entities are my reality TV entertainment now. It's a weird, unsettling feeling. Soap operas & suspense thrillers are supposed to happen in that other world that can't reach us.
 
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jenstark101 said:
Maybe I should clarify. Left-liberal Dems thought he was a God. The entire rest of the left spent the entire time calling him a neoliberal conservative warmonger, it's just the left was only confined to 3-4 parties and a dozen online rags or so. Now it's larger.
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Nah, I think the left was a little annoyed and would complain a bit, but not much beyond that.

For instance, the huge anti-war rallies of the Bush era mostly went away during the Obama era.

Also keep in mind that the far left was vastly outnumbered by left-liberals as well.
 
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spiritofamermaid said:
Same. I was trying to tell my dad about how Fox is pozzed. He argued back about Tucker and the Five and Hannity, saying that if it really were pozzed then those people wouldn't be on the show. When I showed him the video of the black anchor being astonished and them quickly cutting away from Trump Barbie showing riot footage, that's when the cracks started. I also brought up how Fox was NeverTrump coverage-wise until the riots.
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What's this thing you speak of that happened with the anchor?
 
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Ric Flair Woooo said:
I always encourage cheating in sports. As long as you can get away with it, try it. The old saying goes "If you're not cheating, you aren't trying." But the votes at 4am all for Biden just screams fraud. I hope Trump can find a way to prove it and expose the Dems for what they are.
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What really annoys me is how blatant they are about it. They don't even really bother to hide it by having the votes come in mixed, it's just woops I found all these Biden ballets in my trunk at 4am.
 
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spiritofamermaid said:
Same. I was trying to tell my dad about how Fox is pozzed. He argued back about Tucker and the Five and Hannity, saying that if it really were pozzed then those people wouldn't be on the show. When I showed him the video of the black anchor being astonished and them quickly cutting away from Trump Barbie showing riot footage, that's when the cracks started. I also brought up how Fox was NeverTrump coverage-wise until the riots.

Last night my dad was so furious and upset with Fox that it wasn't even 15 minutes of watching them that he asked me if there were third-party places to watch. We watched DecisionUSA together, and he said that the PPD guy was someone he really liked.

I made some noises about "told you so", in a joking way to keep spirits up. He frequently checked the Fox Business site until he saw something g that mad him not look at it permanently.

While I am a little ashamed to feel some "I told you so", it was really sad seeing him be crushed. He was an avid O'Reilly watcher, as his voice is what I grew up hearing. He and my mom watched Glenn Beck and the Five.

While I'm glad he finally dropped the MSM, it's still hard and sad to see someone realize that the thing he enjoyed/trusted realize that it was subverted. (I told him that it always was, but he thinks they were on Bush's side due to being Repubs, and not uniparty.)

I can empathize, as I had always laughed at the Satanic Panic people until I went through what felt like an existential crisis reading the Finders papers.
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Better that he found out now than later. You did good.
 
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