2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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In these turbulent times, I bring cheerful tidings.

Biden looks screwed even if he wins​


At a minimum, the lackluster performance of Democratic Senate candidates would hamstring a President Biden from Day One.


This is not the outcome Democrats expected.

Despite many bold predictions of a rout in which Democrats gained (or re-gained) Trumpian red territory of 2016, as of early Wednesday only one state — Arizona — had flipped from red to blue. Six states remain outstanding: Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Assuming North Carolina and Georgia have slipped away from Biden — Georgia is not out of reach for him — and that Nevada remains blue, the best-case scenario for the former vice president is a 290-electoral vote victory. That’s more than George W. Bush achieved in his two successful campaigns (271 in 2000 and 286 in 2004), but fewer than Barack Obama (365 in 2008 and 332 in 2012) and Donald Trump (304 in 2016).

A win, of course, is a win. But if Biden is victorious, it will be under radically curtailed circumstances from what Democrats had assumed.
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Biden lost ground with Black voters and Latinos, though he gained some ground with white voters. Realignments are generally built around concrete ideas and specific policy platforms. But this campaign was always a referendum on Trump, rather than an affirmative endorsement of Biden and his agenda. That dynamic already cut against Biden claiming a strong positive mandate. He needed a crushing rejection of Trump to strengthen his case.
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Final results that fall short of a massive rejection of Trump, as seems likely, would fail to trigger the repudiation of Trumpism in the Republican Party that many Democrats — and a minority of Republicans — had hoped for. As John Harris argues, whatever the final numbers, Trump’s appeal to half the country has proven to be durable. Even a narrow Biden victory would generate a larger debate about Trump’s harm to Republicans, but the full-scale de-Trumpification of the GOP required a landslide.

To be sure, presidents who have won narrow victories have been able to turn them into consequential presidencies. Bill Clinton, a popular vote plurality victor, passed much of his first term agenda and comfortably won reelection. Circumstances can always intervene. George W. Bush, the lowest electoral vote winner in modern history, vastly expanded executive branch powers after 9/11 on his way to reelection.

But this is not the scenario many Democrats hoped and prepared for. They wanted a landslide that ended before midnight on Election Day, one that unambiguously crushed Trump and Trumpism, swept in a Democratic Senate, and showed a large majority for the Biden agenda.
Even if they slayed the orange dragon, the Democratic party have also slayed themselves. The ripples felt from top-down will tear them apart and lead to massive failure in midterms, not even considering a possible Biden impeachment or his untimely demise.

You hate to see it.
 
It's been like this for well over a year though. Anybody who offers an alternative point of view in this thread is hounded and neg-rated until they give up, which suggests that the prevailing opinion here is not wanting a conversation.
Bro, just because you're negrated doesn't mean that no one wants a conversation.

This is not Reddit. You're just a sissy who knows your arguments are wrong most of the time (which they are) and you can't fucking back it up, so you go whining back saying THE BAD WIDDLE RIGHTIES ON THE KIWIFARMERS NEGWATED ME. Seethe.
 
Are you mad about some fucking stickers?
The issue comes when it's all stickers and no actual posts to refute or debate you on the subject at hand. So basically, everyone on there is a newcomer from late 2019-2020 likely from other media sites out of curiosity and half-assed 'invasion' that don't actually know how to converse like adults. They're stupid teens or stupid manchildren that respond with clap emotes, emojis, and retarded shit like internet stickers.
 
You underestimate the allure of power and control and how much people want to hold onto those things. That's not Patriots-esque manipulation from the shadows, that's just basic human nature.
Not just that. Large-scale fraud is only attempted by people who either don't trust the system, or want to bypass it completely.

Demoralizing the American people to our elections is a good thing for them. They don't want people voting, they want to take power and remain in power. Once they're in power, they want to minimize how much "The People" can do to them. After all, politicians don't like The People. Because The People can make decisions that the politicians disagree with. Like, for example, voting Orange Man even though you're black/latino. There's a reason there's so much seethe towards the "race traitors" who dared give Trump the highest non-white turnout since Reagan.
 
What's even more upsetting is that if all their lying and cheating pays off and Biden is elected, it will just keep getting worse, because after all they got away with the most blatant election fraud one has seen, so why not do it again and again since nobody has the balls to stop them? I pray that they are not rewarded with victory.
 
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They managed to find more votes just in time to swing Georgia. What a completely unexpected surprise twist that no one saw coming.
 
Either way, the GOP has 4 years to pick out a candidate that captures Trump's spirit while also being smarter and more ruthless. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Paul Ryan, it's going to be him. Yes, I know he doesn't tick any of the boxes you stated, but him or someone like him is who they are going to pick.
 
In these turbulent times, I bring cheerful tidings.





Even if they slayed the orange dragon, the Democratic party have also slayed themselves. The ripples felt from top-down will tear them apart and lead to massive failure in midterms, not even considering a possible Biden impeachment or his untimely demise.

You hate to see it.
Oh yes, all those new dead white voters. Nice to know they'll be waiting for Biden with open arms.
 
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The issue comes when it's all stickers and no actual posts to refute or debate you on the subject at hand. So basically, everyone on there is a newcomer from late 2019-2020 likely from other media sites out of curiosity and half-assed 'invasion' that don't actually know how to converse like adults. They're stupid teens or stupid manchildren that respond with clap emotes, emojis, and retarded shit like internet stickers.
Jesus, conversing through stickers? Have we regressed to the stone ages?
 
If Trump successfully legally challenged some results and ended up narrowly winning by say a couple of EC votes.

And the electoral college members from those states thought that the win was unfair, and voted for Biden to become president.

Would there be any sort of recourse available, or is the EC vote definitive?
 
In these turbulent times, I bring cheerful tidings.





Even if they slayed the orange dragon, the Democratic party have also slayed themselves. The ripples felt from top-down will tear them apart and lead to massive failure in midterms, not even considering a possible Biden impeachment or his untimely demise.

You hate to see it.
Biden impeachment? For fucking what?
Please don’t let the democrats succeed in turning impeachment into a cudgel. Even if there was massive cheating, I doubt Biden planned out any ground game activities. He’s just a senile beneficiary.
 
Honestly the best way to bring this up to SCOTUS isn't to necessarily ask to get rid of the extra ballots. It's to ask to turn back the tallies to a time where the voting total was known definitively. At least then, if you've proven that there is massive fraud going on, you can make sure you generally represent the will of the people accurately.
 
Jesus, conversing through stickers? Have we regressed to the stone ages?
I mean, haven't we culturally? Can you actually compare any modern culture to what they were in the Renaissance? Fuck me, can you compare modern cultures to their counterparts a century back? We've regressed rather than progressed.
 
if biden wins, who will be the new boogeyman?
like how will people commit to the idea that getting trump out of office will make things better when... nothing will actually legitimately change? at least not in terms of things they usually bitch about.
example, police brutality was happening well before trump was in office. when we had a whole ass black man as president, no less!
i'm just curious who the new scapegoat would become.
The looneys have already turned on Biden for not being extreme enough. Secret Asshole won another bet it seems.

Again, this isn’t case of “oh boohoo Biden won!” it’s a case of “wait, something’s not adding up, what’s going on?”
How could people laugh at the “salt” when there’s something clearly fishy going on.
Kek go to the doomsday thread, speds were unironically saying that because one old white man lost to another old white man the West/America/the "White Race" was dead.

I'm amazed at how threads on this forum can show two different worlds when it comes to politics.
 
Well it's that and the fact they're acting like triggered liberals despite mocking that behavior for the past 4 years.

If a recount happens and Biden still wins I'm now convinced the Right will still insist Biden stole the election.

If you still do not understand what is at stake, that's on you. The establishment is playing for keeps. They only care about the rules so far as they are able to win. It's not even that "oh no a liberal won". It'd be just as concerning if an establishment neocon like Bush were to win, because at the end of the day, we are fighting a corrupt oligarchy that's turned against us. Those who aren't concerned typically think they'll be fine with what the oligarchy will do, while also typically ignoring or justifying their blatantly evil methods through mental gymnastics provided to them by the very same.
 
Biden impeachment? For fucking what?
Please don’t let the democrats succeed in turning impeachment into a cudgel. Even if there was massive cheating, I doubt Biden planned out any ground game activities. He’s just a senile beneficiary.
Where have you been this past year? The democrats have already succeeded in turning impeachment into a cudgel.
 
Kek go to the doomsday thread, speds were unironically saying that because one old white man lost to another old white man the West/America was dead.

I'm amazed at how threads on this forum can show two different worlds when it comes to politics.
I mean, yes. When we unironically endorse Brazillian tactics in American elections, the whole fucking point of having a democracy is moot. If you can just cheat to the point that the will of the people doesn't matter, then what's the point of elections?
 
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Isn't this the software used in 33 of their counties?
I mean, yes. When we unironically endorse Brazillian tactics in American elections, the whole fucking point of having a democracy is moot. If you can just cheat to the point that the will of the people doesn't matter, then what's the point of elections.
We've apparently reached the point where if you care about anything you deserve to get laughed at.
 
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