2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Literally every laptop, iPad and phone is capable of starting livestreams nowadays. Maybe like 10 years ago that explanation would make sense, but that's utter nonsense now. Hell, even the UK did that for both of their Brexit referendums.

Independant observers are typically around, as are observers from each standing party, they are allowed to sample random vote piles at any time, usually about 100. It's also all done by hand. For now. There's a commission looking into electronic voting but it's unlikely to go anywhere as the vote integrity question is a massive sword of damocles that will probably kibosh it for a very long time.

Postal Voting is somewhat a concern, but it seems the system has been slowly tightened and ironed out, and there's a steady and quiet push for voter ID soon as people suspect there's shenanigans going on in various city seats as seen in Tower Hamlets.
 
It's been like this for well over a year though. Anybody who offers an alternative point of view in this thread is hounded and neg-rated until they give up, which suggests that the prevailing opinion here is not wanting a conversation.
Have you considered that your contributions are poorly formed in the first place? I mean, just the fact that you're appealing to the alignment of an argument instead of its actual quality leads me to believe that they are.
 
Maybe I was misunderstanding where they were coming from then. Maybe I'm wrong.

IDK - when I talk to some of my more conservative friends about this, they always seem a little hesitant to really dig into the ballots of these "blue spikes." The impression I sometimes get is that they're worried deep down that the official story might be true and there really is a massive amount of turnout/support for Biden in these large cities.

I could be reading too much into things and let it color my opinion about this thread.
Personally I'm concerned that there are ballots which are falsely originated but which have enough legitimacy to be indecipherable from "real" ballots. For example, in Wisconsin inner cities have turnouts over their registered number of voters, but they have same day registration so even though it looks very shady one cannot say for certain that there is massive voter fraud. Its the worst with mail-ins where we're relying on USPS and the competency of the average idiot. The paper trail is almost impossible to nail down.
 
If you can't hold an election you're a joke country.
You mean the one we're holding right now? The one that will decide a good deal of global politics for the next four years? Maybe want to use better wording and actually have a point to your insults. If you did, I'd be laughing along with you at my country's flaws.
 
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Did Trump purposefully keep COVID cases out of control and turn it into a political issue so democrats would be more likely to vote by mail and he could contest the legitimacy of a Biden win? Or did he trip into this good luck by accident?
He used his rallies as super spreader events, knowing his strain of boomers were less affected, so that they would spread Corona all around the country, especially in important election states, thus killing over 200,000 biden voters. Had he not done this he'd already be out of office.
4D chess doesn't begin to describe Trump's level of play on the political battlefield.
 
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I dont get it. When is this shit going to be over? Are they even counting votes anymore? I dont see a difference.
Nevada and a Philly ward decided to stop counting, while Arizona is trickling them in every four hours or so.
 
Personally I'm concerned that there are ballots which are falsely originated but which have enough legitimacy to be indecipherable from "real" ballots. For example, in Wisconsin inner cities have turnouts over their registered number of voters, but they have same day registration so even though it looks very shady one cannot say for certain that there is massive voter fraud. Its the worst with mail-ins where we're relying on USPS and the competency of the average idiot.
I gotta slightly disagree - I think there's always evidence, always at least one whistle blower willing to testify. There's no way to pull off fraud this big without leaving breadcrumbs.

For example, if they have on-the-spot voter registration, compare their voter registration records to the phonebook. Do these people actually exist? Can they confirm that their vote wasn't tampered with? That sort of thing.
 
You mean the one we're holding right now? The one that will decide a good deal of global politics for the next four years? Maybe want to use better wording and actually have a point to your insults. If you did, I'd be laughing along with you at my country's flaws.

The one with the 8-24 hour pauses where magical bags of 100% onesided ballots appear out of thin air, yes that one.
 
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Nevada and a Philly ward decided to stop counting, while Arizona is trickling them in every four hours or so.
You would think some federal agency would automatically run these sorts of analysis checks, however with all the data being publicly available I suppose normal people can do it themselves at this point.
I've never considered it but it certainly seems worth doing from here on out.
 
He also said he would tax the super rich. Yet he put a former CEO of JP Morgan on his administration. More importantly, you don't negotiate with people that are so desperate to win, they undermine the principles of your nation for a quick win. Again, you are proof enough that civics classes need to be brought back in full force and educate the majority of the American public of what the Founders intended America to be.
As if the Republicans have never done this. :story:
 
Because Biden's already indicated atleast part of his agenda will be to heal the rift with Republicans and these shenanigans all but guarantee he'll be another Obama stonewalled by a hostile Republican majority for most of his term.

Not necessarily. thing about Obama is that the man wasn't very good at doing politics, tons of republicans and even democrats senator and congressmen tell stories of trying to meet the man in the middle and reach a compromise and Obama simply not having it and not getting anything done.

That is how Obama got his fame as being a inept amateur, and that is part due his monstrous ego even for washington standards. Fuck, one of the surprising things about Trump is that he was quite amendable in reaching to the other side and settling compromises. It is one of the big reasosns on why some of his 2016 supporters turned on him.

Can't say what will Biden do, or more likely Kamala and their team will, but chances are that they will be more receptive of doing politics. Who knows, after all said is done and gone, Joe Biden might really be a "back to business as usual" presidency.

Now, if that is a good or bad thing , I dunno.
 
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