2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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@Clockwork_PurBle It's a Photoshopped combination of the two.

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In my experience nobody is even acknowledging it, they are just saying Biden is going to win and celebrating. It's fucking depressing but there you go.
In my experience, they're celebrating, but you can tell something's missing. My family thinks that it's terrible to see so many people still vote for Trump after four years of him, and even more harrowing to see more of the minority groups that voted for him, and what they took from it was that there's plenty of misinfo that benefits Trump as well as plenty of evil people that don't recognize how evil they are. They chalk up his strong showing to a vigorous campaign of disinfo and specific courting of minority groups, never mind that the latter doesn't work and is seen as what it is (facile pandering) if they're not truly convincing them. They also figure he gained mindless support of people who would never be affected by the federal government.
 
In Italy, the banana republic of western Europe, anyone who wants to vote MUST show a valid ID (expired ones don't count) and get their "voting passport" stamped. Public offices can issue an emergency replacement for the latter.
Every polling station is monitored by police officers non-stop, while polling volunteers cross-check your residence to see if you're actually entitled to vote there, if at all. If you don't show up at a polling station within reasonable time before closing you get turned away.
But of course lol Italy Berlusconi mafia pizza mandolins lololol.
And ironically enough, the party that pulls the same shenanigans of the DNC is called Democratic Party as well
 
Okay, so what IF we have a re-do election?

Will it be a nationwide vote ... Or would it be certain states that vote again? Personally, I would root for the latter to happen.
Better yet, just not count the votes that came in after 3 AM Wednesday? That way, we can actually have a fucking valid election and not have to deal with the waves upon waves of blatant fraud going on.
 
In Iran, they do the same thing with stamping your voting card. In Venezuela they have fingerprint scanners at the polling stations. Odd that the country who put a man on the Moon couldn't seem to figure something out to prevent this nightmare scenario we are currently living in.
Look at all the effort we put into making sure Afghan and Iraqi elections were not defrauded, and yet we don't apply a fraction of the scrutiny domestically.
 
Galaxy Brain time: I wonder if they're trying to create a "violent sore loser Drumfies" narrative (and thus have a violent crackdown on wronkthinkers) by playing games, acting scuzzy, lying, and overall becoming so blatantly corrupt and hateable that someone snaps and Brenton Tarrant's a bunch of liberals.
I was expecting that, but right now the weirdest fucking thing is that it’s so quiet right now.

You would expect the gloating to be off the charts, but even Biden supporters are hesitant. I’d like to believe it’s because people can’t ignore that there’s fuckery afoot.
 
in the UK we do not have to bring ID to vote... people have put it forward as an idea in the Parliament tho... and of course it would be "discrimination"

I said it before and I'll say it again: America is even too normal considering the amount of English AND German autism.
 
The longer this goes on, the less legitimate the results look. Even the 'normies' think as much. Its a poisoned chalice to drink from, but what other gameplay exists... for either side? Somebody jumped the gun in Michigan and Wisconsin, the fix was TOO obvious and it resulted in massively increased scrutiny. So now it has to be dragged out because there is no winning play for either side.

Its the worst result for -everybody-.
This is why I think the most likely outcome is that this election becomes soo tainted with fraud that it becomes a House Delegation Vote that decides it.

And do you know who wins in that case?
 
At the bare minimum, the longer this shit takes, the more ammo Trump has in the SC.
It always seems to go like so:

1) Leftists egregiously abuse power in a very obvious way
2) They end up looking really bad
3) Blowback/outrage forces them to own up to and pay for their crimes

Thing is we never seem to reach Step 3 so I'm starting to think this is kind of a shitty plan.
 
Better yet, just not count the votes that came in after 3 AM Wednesday? That way, we can actually have a fucking valid election and not have to deal with the waves upon waves of blatant fraud going on.
So, here's the very potential problem with that:

A lot of those votes have already been technically "counted." How do we know which votes to remove from the count?
 
I was expecting that, but right now the weirdest fucking thing is that it’s so quiet right now.

You would expect the gloating to be off the charts, but even Biden supporters are hesitant. I’d like to believe it’s because people can’t ignore that there’s fuckery afoot.
No fucking shit. How does it take Florida 24 hours to count their votes and even less to determine a winner (like 2 or 3 hours) with a population ~11 million relatively well, yet states with drastically lower populations can't do that in 2 days and have statistical anomalies everywhere?
 
Okay, so what IF we have a re-do election?

Will it be a nationwide vote ... Or would it be certain states that vote again? Personally, I would root for the latter to happen.
Per the Constitution and SCOTUS case law, IIRC, federal elections have to be held on the same day precisely to avoid strategic voting (Louisiana games the system a bit with their jungle primary, but they're half-French so who gives a fuck) so a new election, per the RAW, would be the entire country.

Not that I think the courts would order it, no matter how obvious the fraud was. It's much more likely that they'd try to band-aid the problem by throwing out obviously fraudulant batches of ballots and sort of hope things work themselves out. That, or they'd decide that even though Trump is clearly being robbed, national unity is more important and that means they have to let the obviously corrupt results stand- the same mistake Nixon made back in 1960.

TBQH, Trump is entirely justified in going full Pinochet at this point. That's my $.02
 
I generally agree with you, but we’re on dangerous ground. Trump has to come out strong in declaring and contesting states because once that fucking bar fills up past 270 for Biden, even if it’s from bullshit media calls on the Google homepage, Trump is immediately going to have an uphill battle for legitimacy in the eyes of normie America.

Case in point, I had a friend text me an electoral map and ask me what was going on. I had to point out where there were lawsuits, and recounts pending and states calls had been retracted but not updated on that particular map. She went along with it, but not everyone has an angry, engaged autist like me in their life.

That’s the purpose for these lawsuits coming out immediately; it makes the networks hesitant to call if things are stalled or unclear, regardless of voting reports.
Fox is absolutely malicious in calling Arizona and refusing to uncall it.
I'm rating you optimistic because we don't know shit what's going to happen but if they call Arizona and Nevada for Biden after these recounts and it's tossed out of the courts, it is over and Biden is your next president.

The problem I have here personally is how can they be incompetent at getting results. Like if Biden was announced as the clear winner on election night, I would have been fine with that since the people made their choice and they think Orange Man is bad which is fine since it's their voice, but this stuff is way too sketchy and unless something major happens it is clear Biden will be the next president.
It's absurd to go to sleep, then wake up the next day seeing states flipping in the morning. I may have said this three times, but this is beyond the presidential election, this is about having a fucking functional election system.
Is John James suing for transparency? Maybe a black man fighting for fair voting will make someone take note of the fraud.
I really hope this is the point where they fucked up and are now getting senate campaigns on the lawsuit fun.
 
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