2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Hot Dog]

The international community is definitely cluing in that something is wrong. This also fucks over Biden (ironically more than Trump), who will need to deal with foreign leaders who can point to the fraud here as a reason to not take the U.S. seriously.

Seriously, this is a disaster. My China comment was dumb, sure. But if you want to mess with your enemy, attack when they are facing multiple problems.

 

[captkrisma]

The international community is definitely cluing in that something is wrong. This also fucks over Biden (ironically more than Trump), who will need to deal with foreign leaders who can point to the fraud here as a reason to not take the U.S. seriously.

Acquaintances in Taiwan, Japan, and Vietnam are all asking me about Wisconsin and what the hell is happening.

Vietnam is still a communist country. If fucking communists are asking if it was fraudulent...well...

 

[Gehenna]

It certainly means that US complaints over Venezuela/Belarus holding clearly fraudulent elections won't be taken seriously.

Venezuela, Belarus, Russia, Syria, fucking CHINA. Oh, I am sure Xi will definitely give a wink and a nudge to Biden about how they are both 'elected'.

 

[draggs]

Nobody but useless faggots gives a shit what foreigners think

Cringest shit ever

Oh no Germans are laughing at Poles and Brits are laughing at French and Americans are laughing at everybody and everybody is laughing at Americans

Theyre laughing that is so terribly embarrassing despite meaning absolutely nothing

 

[Tour of Italy]

I think you're missing the point. What makes this thread an echo chamber is not that dissenting opinion is ignored or shut down, but that it is clearly viewed as an unwanted inconvenience; a fact made obvious by the absurd degree of acrimony even the slightest disagreement invariably attracts here. Perhaps this doesn't meet the strictness of your definition, but in my book, if people would rather just have their own beliefs reinforced, then they're partaking in an echo chamber, and the fact that even the mere suggestion that this is the case can provoke such a reaction here should be entirely illustrative of my point.

Personally, I find this point of contention to be largely tedious, and would rather discuss something of more substance, such as the validity of the current claims going around about voter fraud, or Trump's various statements on the subject. I've been trying to find some hard evidence to back up the claims, but so far all I've come across is hearsay. Would you happen to know of anything more concrete?

I seem to recall you finding a lot of points tedious as soon as you began losing the argument.

Others have chimed in, but there’s like 50 pages from today along of people pointing out fraud.

The biggest one in my book is the fact that precincts are being locked down and their windows blocked out while Republican observers are being denied entry.

 

[Puerto Pollo]

Mister President you still have a chance to save America. Do it! Use those ICBMs!

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

The fact this election is going on day 3 just proves in itself how much fraud is going on. They're gonna keep counting until they get the results they want.

Remember what @It's HK-47 said: the post-election day vote counting doesn't matter anyway since it's all going to court.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Trump Jr is tweeting.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324473707121778688

 

[Gravemind]

No matter who wins this, no one is going to accept this as legit. Politicians spent years bitching about Russian interference with 2016 for political point, this one I think the people will genuinely see the 2020 president as illegitimate.

I mean, that's a given since we went into this with both sides' voters probably refusing to accept any other outcome.

I just want to remind that we had MSM and politicians gearing up for the whole "Russian interference" angle with this election too preceding Election Day until this shitshow started dragging on and on.

If Trump wins, I'll bet anything they'll push "Russian interference" all over again. Hell, if Biden wins, they'll still push it and I think there could be a distinct possibility we go to war with Russia over this premise and then soundly get our asses kicked or, worse case scenario, invoke MAD all to save face.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Its amazing how bad this is for literally everybody involved. There is not a single winner in this. The oligarchic cabal behind Biden? Well, Biden is now a lameduck. Trump? LOL NO, even if he does eek out win he'll be viewed as illegitimate by the left and it looks like the Neo-Cons are finally fracturing off.

And the American People? We now get to see the massive cracks in the system.

Everyone loses no matter who wins.

Idk man, you say that like Trump didn't have revolt from within and a complete screaming fit from without. They impeached him ffs. Honestly nothing much I think changes from Trump's perspective if he finds a way to stay.

 

[Oats12345]

Trump Jr is tweeting.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324473707121778688

Fuck twitter. I mean it, sooner or later they can't hide the fraud

 

[ChikN10der]

Regardless, America is a laughingstock internationally right now. China has full go ahead to invade Taiwan now that sec def is resigning and the country is in turmoil. We are a joke. GG, dems.

Bit of a glass house situation. Haters gonna hate, we're always being told we're a laughingstock by the same people who said biden was +14 nationally.

These idiots don't know what anyone thinks, they literally have been proven not to be able to gauge popular opinions.

The average twitter user and s better at judging prevailing opinion than the polling firms and Nate Lead.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I mean, that's a given since we went into this with both sides' voters probably refusing to accept any other outcome.

I just want to remind that we had MSM and politicians gearing up for the whole "Russian interference" angle with this election too preceding Election Day until this shitshow started dragging on and on.

If Trump wins, I'll bet anything they'll push "Russian interference" all over again. Hell, if Biden wins, they'll still push it and I think there could be a distinct possibility we go to war with Russia over this premise and then soundly get our asses kicked or, worse case scenario, invoke MAD all to save face.

Biden is not going to start a nuclear holocaust. I can't stand him but this is Biden Derangement Syndrome. Democrats are self interested, not suicidal.

 

[JambledUpWords]

If Trump wins, I'll bet anything they'll push "Russian interference" all over again.

They can’t play the Russia card after this. Not when they have clearly shaken people’s faith in voting and the Constitution more than any supposed Russian bot could have. If they pull this, they’ll be mocked relentlessly.

 

[draggs]

Biden is not going to start a nuclear holocaust. I can't stand him but this is Biden Derangement Syndrome. Democrats are self interested, not suicidal.

Reminds me of IF HITLERY WINS NUKEYOULAR WAR AGAINST RUSSIA

Uh no that was never in the cards if she won

 

[Gehenna]

Idk man, you say that like Trump didn't have revolt from within and a complete screaming fit from without. They impeached him ffs. Honestly nothing much I think changes from Trump's perspective if he finds a way to stay.

If Trump wins, he comes off marginally better than everyone else. He kept the senate (With a smaller majority), and got House seats (but not the majority). But the Neo Cons are actively fracturing off, he'd be dealing with the international fallout of this sham for at least the next year, and gained basically nothing for it. So better off, but still up shit creek.

 

[Aldeland]

Reminds me of IF HITLERY WINS NUKEYOULAR WAR AGAINST RUSSIA

Uh no that was never in the cards if she won

Nope just more never ending wars in the middle east.

 

[Gravemind]

Biden is not going to start a nuclear holocaust. I can't stand him but this is Biden Derangement Syndrome. Democrats are self interested, not suicidal.

Like I said, worst case scenario. And in a worst case scenario, Biden will have either died in office or have been 25th Amendment'd his ass out the door anyway, and I wouldn't put too much past Kamala Harris given her retardation and lack of connection to the American people other than "I'm black and female so everything I say and do should be right".

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

The international community is definitely cluing in that something is wrong. This also fucks over Biden (ironically more than Trump), who will need to deal with foreign leaders who can point to the fraud here as a reason to not take the U.S. seriously.

From a German point of view Biden would be the best what could happen to us. If Biden gets into the Oval Office we will finish the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline directly from Russia to Germany. Come hell or high water.

 

[Absolutego]

I mean, that's a given since we went into this with both sides' voters probably refusing to accept any other outcome.

I just want to remind that we had MSM and politicians gearing up for the whole "Russian interference" angle with this election too preceding Election Day until this shitshow started dragging on and on.

If Trump wins, I'll bet anything they'll push "Russian interference" all over again. Hell, if Biden wins, they'll still push it and I think there could be a distinct possibility we go to war with Russia over this premise and then soundly get our asses kicked or, worse case scenario, invoke MAD all to save face.

At this point if Trump wins it's gonna via the courts, how exactly to they spin that as Russian Interference?
They'll just call him a manbaby throwing a tantrum who stacked the judiciary by filling existing vacancies to cheat his way into office.