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2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.
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The main problem is you've got the entire media and the technocrats on the side of the opposition. They will do everything in their power to destroy any attempts at investigating what is obvious fraud. They can scream all they want that its rare. Then you have the faggot Repubs who believe in 'losing with dignity' and take an assraping constantly. Then there are Biden supporters who don't care at all and just want him gone. It honestly doesn't look like its going to happen.
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I don't think people here realize just how -fucked- the federal government is under Biden for the next two years.
The republicans are at 51, this is the worst possible number for both Biden collaborators AND democrats. The collaborators have to mask anything they do in conservative jargon, lest they be pilloried by their voters. This means they can't vote for any ideas like the Green New Deal. Whats worse, it means they can't even have SYMBOLIC votes. Why? Because any symbolic votes would require everyone to vote for it and be a good little quisling. The problem? Graham and Cruz. Both have appeared to decide they are sticking with the trump train, and 2 votes is exactly what you need to spoil a 51 majority. So ALL these two have to do to completely lock the senate is vote absentee and watch as neither side can cross 50.
Right, what about the House? Surely this one being controlled by the same party as the president means -something-? Holy shit no, its -worse-. The senate would ONLY be gridlocked, the house meanwhile is gonna be imploding. The eventual result seems to be around 214 republicans and 221 democrats. Fine, right? That's a comfortable 7 majority for the democrats...
Did you see that thing about democrat candidates freaking about losing seats? About how they hate socialism? The -only- thing keeping the three separate groups together in the house was hatred of Trump. And in this scenario, that is gone. Pelosi has somehow managed to stave off the civil war in the house for a while, but cracks have been appearing and growing wider well before this election. You have the Blue Dog Democrats who fear that a push to the left will kill vulnerable seats (and it will), the far left nutsos lead by AOC who have -actively- fought against the party, then you have the deep-state establishment democrats which make up Pelosi's crowd. Who mutually hate both the other sides, but keep getting power due to a mixture of long standing existence and being the middleground between the two others.
Good fucking LUCK keeping those from going at eachother now that their only lightning rod of hate is gone. And with only +7, any one of those factions being discontent and voting against things means the whole business is scuppered. There is no wiggle room.
So that's JUST congress. What about the other two branches?
Judiciary is LOCKED republican for the next 20 years at least. McConnel filled those seats and the last days of the Trump presidency would be a SPREE of filling the last ones. By the end, a full two thirds of all judicial seats will be conservative. And there will be no way to pack it with the senate under republicans.
So that leaves the executive... whose fraudulent election ensures foreign policy is right out the window. Lots of friendly, knowing smiles and no commitment. Putin stepping down removes THAT lightning rod entirely. Internally, Trump DID clean house and filled most of the positions of the upper brass in the three letter agencies with either loyalists or originalists. So Biden will be doing exactly what Trump had to do, and combating that for his first term. He has -no- mandate, and thus cannot push forward any policy... not that congress could pass it if he did. And so he's left with EOs, but with Trump not signing the Patriot Act a LOT of his ability to fudge things is gone without congress recreating it.
The republicans are at 51, this is the worst possible number for both Biden collaborators AND democrats. The collaborators have to mask anything they do in conservative jargon, lest they be pilloried by their voters. This means they can't vote for any ideas like the Green New Deal. Whats worse, it means they can't even have SYMBOLIC votes. Why? Because any symbolic votes would require everyone to vote for it and be a good little quisling. The problem? Graham and Cruz. Both have appeared to decide they are sticking with the trump train, and 2 votes is exactly what you need to spoil a 51 majority. So ALL these two have to do to completely lock the senate is vote absentee and watch as neither side can cross 50.
Right, what about the House? Surely this one being controlled by the same party as the president means -something-? Holy shit no, its -worse-. The senate would ONLY be gridlocked, the house meanwhile is gonna be imploding. The eventual result seems to be around 214 republicans and 221 democrats. Fine, right? That's a comfortable 7 majority for the democrats...
Did you see that thing about democrat candidates freaking about losing seats? About how they hate socialism? The -only- thing keeping the three separate groups together in the house was hatred of Trump. And in this scenario, that is gone. Pelosi has somehow managed to stave off the civil war in the house for a while, but cracks have been appearing and growing wider well before this election. You have the Blue Dog Democrats who fear that a push to the left will kill vulnerable seats (and it will), the far left nutsos lead by AOC who have -actively- fought against the party, then you have the deep-state establishment democrats which make up Pelosi's crowd. Who mutually hate both the other sides, but keep getting power due to a mixture of long standing existence and being the middleground between the two others.
Good fucking LUCK keeping those from going at eachother now that their only lightning rod of hate is gone. And with only +7, any one of those factions being discontent and voting against things means the whole business is scuppered. There is no wiggle room.
So that's JUST congress. What about the other two branches?
Judiciary is LOCKED republican for the next 20 years at least. McConnel filled those seats and the last days of the Trump presidency would be a SPREE of filling the last ones. By the end, a full two thirds of all judicial seats will be conservative. And there will be no way to pack it with the senate under republicans.
So that leaves the executive... whose fraudulent election ensures foreign policy is right out the window. Lots of friendly, knowing smiles and no commitment. Putin stepping down removes THAT lightning rod entirely. Internally, Trump DID clean house and filled most of the positions of the upper brass in the three letter agencies with either loyalists or originalists. So Biden will be doing exactly what Trump had to do, and combating that for his first term. He has -no- mandate, and thus cannot push forward any policy... not that congress could pass it if he did. And so he's left with EOs, but with Trump not signing the Patriot Act a LOT of his ability to fudge things is gone without congress recreating it.
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Why does the media matter now? They didn't matter in 2016. Their reach only goes so far and they know it.
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If Biden ends up losing in the end, which I think he will after the fraud cases just keep piling on, I want him to cry on camera. He will be a sore loser, but cheaters should never prosper, especially when it can end up destroying the fabric of a nation.
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Alternative, simpler explanations. 1: Time, they had to make a lot of ballots in a short amount of time. If they had them on hand, they could have just trickled them in like they did everywhere after the fuckup. 2: If they also went down ballot, you'd have a lot of republican house and senate members ALSO pressing for recounts. Thats a lot harder to keep up with.
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This video kept getting deleted when Trump's son tried to repost it on twitter last night.
Someone one else had the numbers last night, and maybe they can find them, but it showed that the number of ballots for the top ticket was higher than that of the lower races, suggesting rather that Republicans voting Biden and then a straight Republican ticket the rest of the way down, these voters were just voting Biden and no one else, which is iffy as hell.
In addition to Georgia going blue, which hopefully fixes itself, I noticed that PA, NC and NV, which were all sitting at 99% in last night are now reading 95% in. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
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The only reason Obama could get away with it is BECAUSE he had the supreme court. There is a reason that Trump has been more hobbled than Obama with them, its because until Barret he had a hostile court.
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If count is suddenly dropping, despite previous data, it shows that they conveniently made enough ballots. Every single instance of this should be challenged by court, as its suspicious as hell.
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The media. technocrats, and faggots genuinely do not matter in this case. Hard data does.
And things are very much looking like Trump absolutely has that data on his side now.
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He already has lawsuits pending in all the contested states. The only reason you don't hear them is because the MSM buried all mention of it.
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Sorry if this has already been said multiple times (have mainly been checking highlights), but I really feel like the doomposting should be saved for the situation that the courts rule against Trump. Don't get me wrong, it's already bad enough that America's election system is this much of a joke in the eyes of practically everyone now, and people should at least be angry right now, but if not even the Supreme Court will show some teeth and call out the most blatant fraud imaginable? Then doomposting is absolutely justified, since in that scenario America is on its way to becoming just another shithole, and it's sad how confident I feel in saying that. But as of now, I assume it's mostly newfags who don't want to stay in their containment thread that are dooming this hard- for months on end, people have said that Biden can only win with voting fraud, and that the election will be contested. That's why RGB's death and subsequent replacement was such a big deal and why everyone was saying it had to be done quickly. It's just the wait that's the worst thing right now, despite it only being 2-3 days so far, it feels so much longer, and unless I missed it, there doesn't seem to be any date yet for the court cases, no end in sight other than December 14th.
tl;dr there should really be a doomer rating, but there probably won't be since Null is a doomer himself
tl;dr there should really be a doomer rating, but there probably won't be since Null is a doomer himself
People won't want to hear it, and it does admittedly sound fedora-tipping-tier, but you'll be a lot happier once you realise that a lot of people just aren't worth the effort. An easy tell is if you send them evidence, and they either refuse to look at it but don't concede anything, or they go "Actually, let's just not talk about this anymore", then they bring it up again in the future, they reveal they still haven't looked at it, repeat ad nauseum. Better to surround yourself with a few people you can trust and actually have open discussions with, than a lot of people you can't, and this should be kept in mind regardless of who wins- only thing you can do at this point is make your own life better. I get that it doesn't feel great to cut people off because of politics since "muh both sides", but there comes a point where someone is so wilfully ignorant that it says more about them than anything else.
Can the media do anything about the video evidence and completely infeasible turnout numbers? This is sorta what I mean with doomposting- I get it, it's better to have no expectations and be pleasantly surprised, but logically, I'm just not seeing the level of influence the media has that makes them capable of divine intervention. If it weren't for the internet, I'd be more inclined to agree.
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Eventually, they will be forced to report it. The game of denial can’t happen forever. They will have to be forced to retract previous statements.
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I was wondering how people like Rubio are handling this. Here's his last couple of Tweets
https://twitter.com/marcorubio
https://archive.vn/wip/WxFh5
What it reminds me of is one of the Iranian Green Movement leaders post 2009 in Iran. They know their side has been fucked over. They also know that the Overton Window has contracted to the point that stating that outright might be very bad for their health. So they make oblique references to the importance of the rule of law and quote a societal appropriate religious text alluding obliquely to the other side being cheating vermin because they know the Powers That Be can't silence them for that.
To quote the great intellectual and technical specialist Anatoly Dyatlov it's not great (it'd be nice if the Republican senators came out as a united front to say the election is a fucking fraud not fucking alluding to it obliquely if you fucking need to do that your country is fucking fucked you fuck) but not terrible (at least he's supporting the court action and not telling Trump to concede for the good of the nation).
What happened to those Green Movement leaders? Did they get to survive as controlled opposition? Oddly not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir-Hossein_Mousavi
America is of course not Iran and doesn't put people under house arrest. It either locks them up like Dinesh D'Souza or just keeps them bankrupted by a permanent investigation like poor Michael Flynn.
https://twitter.com/marcorubio
https://archive.vn/wip/WxFh5
What it reminds me of is one of the Iranian Green Movement leaders post 2009 in Iran. They know their side has been fucked over. They also know that the Overton Window has contracted to the point that stating that outright might be very bad for their health. So they make oblique references to the importance of the rule of law and quote a societal appropriate religious text alluding obliquely to the other side being cheating vermin because they know the Powers That Be can't silence them for that.
To quote the great intellectual and technical specialist Anatoly Dyatlov it's not great (it'd be nice if the Republican senators came out as a united front to say the election is a fucking fraud not fucking alluding to it obliquely if you fucking need to do that your country is fucking fucked you fuck) but not terrible (at least he's supporting the court action and not telling Trump to concede for the good of the nation).
What happened to those Green Movement leaders? Did they get to survive as controlled opposition? Oddly not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir-Hossein_Mousavi
America is of course not Iran and doesn't put people under house arrest. It either locks them up like Dinesh D'Souza or just keeps them bankrupted by a permanent investigation like poor Michael Flynn.
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More damage control from the MSM, calling the concerns of fraud "unfounded and baseless":
'This is getting insane': Republicans say Trump's attacks on election integrity are dangerous
Republican lawmakers condemned Trump after the president made a series of baseless claims that people were trying to "steal" the election from him.www.usatoday.com
In other words...
"Baseless" is the media's new favorite word with Trump and has been for the past 6 months or so. Google "trump baseless" and you'll find dozens of headlines from various news outlets.
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That was meeeeee
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Not to mention, trust in the media is at an all-time low. Basically no one outside of liberal echo chambers trusts the media 100% or even 50%. This is due to all the shit they got wrong in the past 4 years and how aggressive they've gotten with the propaganda. It's actually absurd to assume that most people think 100% of what the media says is true when it's been shown that most MSM channels (while they are still prominent) are in the process of dying out. They've blown their load on so many things with no result like the Russiagate shit and the Impeachment "scandal", completely annihilating their trustworthiness. All to say "Orange Man Evil".
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Here's a small glimmer of hope, fellow Kiwis. Biden's odds, while still heavily favored to win, dropped by 200 points since 5pm EST. He's now at -900. I think Vegas is catching on as well.
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