Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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We really need a third fucking option. Trump could of been that, but than he just bitched on Twitter for 4 years (i mean it was funny, but like he could of done more!) so I guess a true third option will only happen when people see that both sides don’t care about them.
No third option exists. Even in places where many parties exist they all fall along the left/right spectrum. Even in Canada where there are like 4 or 5 main ones, they're just extremes of the same dichotomy.
 
These traditionally republican voters were so against Trump they voted for the gun grabber in chief. The butcher of the oil industry. The herald of tax hikes. The bringer of illegal immigrants. The man that stands for everything their (theoretical) voting history and political standing is against?
I don't understand people's logic. I just don't.
They probably didn't vote for Biden but stayed home instead.
No third option exists. Even in places where many parties exist they all fall along the left/right spectrum. Even in Canada where there are like 4 or 5 main ones, they're just extremes of the same dichotomy.
This. You have two parties that like gays and you have one party that REALLY likes gays. More parties doesn't mean shit.
 
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A joke that I always see around in threads like this is the accusation that the DNC is supported by votes of deceased people and I always wondered where that originated from, what did the DNC do? Also what history is there of fraud during elections in the US in general, I feel like that is a topic that will become pretty important rather soon and I unfortunately have no clue about.

Not really, the main force are the infantrymen. Tanks can get flanked easily in urban combat and aircraft aren't always useful, unless you want to blow something up.
Yeah, you use tanks and aircraft to take ground, but you always need soldiers to hold ground. And if you wanna know how important combined arms and protecting tanks with infantry is in an urban environment, just ask Turkey, the only nation that managed by sheer incompetence and stupidity to lose Leopard 2s to a bunch of ragheads with crude old russian surplus RPGs.
 
These traditionally republican voters were so against Trump they voted for the gun grabber in chief. The butcher of the oil industry. The herald of tax hikes. The bringer of illegal immigrants. The man that stands for everything their (theoretical) voting history and political standing is against?
I don't understand people's logic. I just don't.
American culture runs on spite. Half the country wanted Dems to eat shit. The other half wanted Trump, specifically, to eat shit. Dems ate a lot of shit downballot, and Trump will be eating shit in lawsuits that will probably be billed back on him once all the smoke clears.


I love this stupid country.
 
No third option exists. Even in places where many parties exist they all fall along the left/right spectrum. Even in Canada where there are like 4 or 5 main ones, they're just extremes of the same dichotomy.
I like to believe there has to be something! Like why does everything gotta be down to two options?
 
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The main voter demographic for Biden:
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A joke that I always see around in threads like this is the accusation that the DNC is supported by votes of deceased people and I always wondered where that originated from, what did the DNC do? Also what history is there of fraud during elections in the US in general, I feel like that is a topic that will become pretty important rather soon and I unfortunately have no clue about.
I think it's from Illinois during the JFK-Nixon 1960 election where the mafia rigged the election in JFK's favor by getting votes casted for dead people
 
They probably didn't vote for Biden but stayed home instead.

This. You have two parties that like gays and you have one party that REALLY likes gays. More parties doesn't mean shit.
More parties=more options. You will have outliers that stray from the mainstream default for example. They dont share the same views. Its perfect. Democrats and Republicans, its just one side or the other. You're just picking the lesser of 2 evils with that. Id prefer to vote for something i actually believe in. And for it to have a chance.
 
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I want to ask people something. Tho this is mostly for the people who are "raving" over Biden's "victory".

Arent you bothered in the slightest that your candidate could only achieve victory on the basis of lies, fraud and cheating? And I dont throw these accusations lightly like everyone did at Trump back at '16. Biden's character has been exposed multiple times and even with audio evidence of it so. Oh sure, its just his boy, his father shouldnt get judged on that. Tho Im sure Biden had no influence or connection to Hunter's borderline criminal behavior at all huh? So people prefer Biden turns out to be just a highly neglectful and shitty parent than a cheater? As if thats consolation?

Should a racer, as in an actual olympic race, be granted victory if its proven he had drugs in his system "aiding" his performance? His audience obviously dont care HOW he won, as long as he "wins".

And I will be very fair, Trump is not a perfect man, not a perfect leader either, he isnt the ideal president. In a better world, I would be voting for a better republican candidate than him. However, even at his worst, he isnt close at Biden's best. There were investigations all over his election and his character and what did they find?
Nothing

Absolutely nothing that could actually imply he is a criminal. Outside of his taxes but hey, who never had a problem with those? If thats how bad it gets, then its stuff Im willing to keep in mind but not let taint the whole figure.

Biden had investigations on him and A LOT has been uncovered and it speaks a lot of the left when they dont care, as long as they "win". It reminds me of what Black Pilled said about people not caring about the hows and whys, as long their side wins. They care more about victory than anything else.

So are leftists saying they are rather glad to be living on a government achieved through lies? And they also live in the fairy tale world where that somehow wont backfire on them sooner or later? They look at his "miracle" vertical jump and say "thats fine by me. He may have cheated but he still won". What does that speaks about his character and, most importantly, yours?

And throwing the "you are just mad" at me is simply dodging the question because you know I may have a point deep down. Rate me whatever you want, unlike leftists, Im glad people are allowed to call me retard because they have the freedom to do so. I much rather have a world where people can be as awful as they want to each other (under the right limits of the law of course) than them not being allowed to do so.

What if Trump is right? What if this election truly was raped with frauds and lies? Think about it, worst case scenario to you, democracy was "preserved", best case, Trump is wrong and you still won and now proven it was fair. You have literally nothing to lose in this case. We didnt mind the investigations at Trump at '16, we knew we all had nothing to hide.

How about Biden tho...? Does he has something to hide?
 
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These traditionally republican voters were so against Trump they voted for the gun grabber in chief. The butcher of the oil industry. The herald of tax hikes. The bringer of illegal immigrants. The man that stands for everything their (theoretical) voting history and political standing is against?
I don't understand people's logic. I just don't.
Think of it like this, what did Trump do for your average republican that directly benefitted them and increased their quality of life?
 
Sure, but the problem there is that it's very difficult to fight a formless enemy encompassing vague sectors of society.
Indeed.

I was listening to this Douglas Murray talk recently, and he was talking about Stalin and what the Russian people thought of him and the general outcome of what had happened at that time.

They described it like this: "It just kind of happened. He was like a force of nature. Like a hurricane. It just seemed to start, and there was no stopping it, and then it ended."

I think a lot of things in life are like that. People in crowds are very wave like, and right now the tides are rising.

I don't think there's anything we can do to stop it now.

If we had successfully regulated the large tech companies and turned Facebook and Twitter into a utility we might have been able to stop this, but I think it's too late now. People have already been brainwashed.

I come from a family of academics; university teachers and such, and even describing Critical Race Theory and the dangers of it to them wasn't enough, they are too far gone ideologically. The schools are taken, social media is taken, news is taken. Every vector of communication and education is gone.

We're fighting a formless and nameless enemy which can't be identified or stopped. We are fucked.
 
Given the vote numbers for Biden in PA and the population of the cities - looks like it was a re-run of 2018 for cheetos hitler. Suburbs turned hard on the guy; even at somehow absurd full turnout, Philly and Pittsburgh don't really explain the numbers.
 
Not really, the main force are the infantrymen. Tanks can get flanked easily in urban combat and aircraft aren't always useful, unless you want to blow something up.
Good thing you never need to blow stuff up in a war. Tanks are an important part of fighting in cities (for first world armies) and Fallujah is a great example of the Americans getting it right. The American military used tanks very effectively to knock out bunkers and provide fire support at key points. Historically this was also the case in Hue city during the get offensive. The caveat to this, of course, is the "first world" bit and obviously armies that suck at combined arms get the shit kicked out of the like the Russians did in Gronzy and the Israelis did in Suez. But for armies made up of not retards they are an important asset for fighting in cities.
 
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