2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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The final and ultimate casualty of this "election," no matter who ends up winning it, is trust. Trust in the media to be fair, trust in any third party whatsoever to be neutral, and so on and so forth.

Americans have essentially no reason to trust each other anymore if they don't come from the same neighborhood, if even that.
 
They're coming up with a narrative for everything. The one for the guy filling out lots of ballots for example is that the ballot was slightly messed up, so they're just fixing it, despite that being 100% illegal. I wonder what this one will be. Just that "Benford's law can't be used to determine fraud"?
 
The final and ultimate casualty of this "election," no matter who ends up winning it, is trust. Trust in the media to be fair, trust in any third party whatsoever to be neutral, and so on and so forth.

Americans have essentially no reason to trust each other anymore if they don't come from the same neighborhood, if even that.
Yeah there will be massive distrust in the voting system, the media, and both parties.

No one is going to come out of this clean
 
The former Democrat mayor of Chicago Rod Blagojevich basically admits that Democrats are rigging the election in major cities.

"If the question is are the Democrats stealing votes in Philadelphia, my answer is, is the pope Catholic? It's a time-honored tradition in big Democrat-controlled cities like Chicago...Philadelphia to do precisely what they're doing now."

My mom used to joke that she's from chicago, she'd vote even if she's dead. It's perhaps the most open secret ever but it's good to have someone who was there say "yep".
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When the left has lost Tariq "Wash Yo Ass" Nasheed, patron saint of the Woke Black Supremacists... they're losing the narrative, period.
It's a good sign to say the least. It's minor, but its meaningful.
Man, I called to check in on the fam and the person taking it hardest is my Filipino in-law. This was her second election after legally gaining her citizen status and she was riding the Trump train hard.

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I hope things look up for her soon: I'm glad she so into the country, I don't want America to piss on her and call it rain with this shit. Poor lass.
>muh watermarked ballots
>muh 5D chess
>muh SCORECARD

Go back to thedonald.win and cope harder, faggots. You're all riden with Biden whether you like it or not.
Your icon is top tier as always. How do you make them so fast?
This... this is some good shit right here.

Listen I'm about as politically and culturally educated as most shit flinging basement dwellers here on the farms, but cheating exist in all elections across the world. While this exposed the flaws in what we thought was a decent system, the fact that a lot of people are willing to come together to say "What the FUCK is this shit" and support a reform is what makes me optimistic about America. We're a bunch of screaming tards but on occassion that's exactly what we need to do: screech to the heavens about how our eights are being infringed. "We the people, in order to form a more perfect union" etc.. I will start being a doomer when the court tells us that everything was above level & to go back to your tv you fucking sheeple (they're old they forget computers exist). For now, I'm trying to say "I'm proud that the nation still has people willing to do the right thing and we do have checks in balances in place, and am damn lucky the rich are on our side for five seconds". Perhaps we can get more shit together later down the line once this is all over, perhaps we should all declare soveregin citizenship if this is allowed to go through, but foe now, it's nice to see the plebs fight for their rights.

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Yeah there will be massive distrust in the voting system, the media, and both parties.

No one is going to come out of this clean
It's not even that.

We already see Democrats fundamentally distrusting in even the basic humanity of their political opponents. The Republicans are somewhat more magnanimous due to their historical status of being graceful losers, but the base are slowly losing trust in Democrats' basic humanity as well (arguably more correctly.)

It won't lead to some stupid nonsense like civil war, but it just makes things terribly uncomfortable for everyone.
 
A mandate? If these results hold they won on razor thin margins and Dems are pissed because it means they don't have a mandate. That's why there have been so many takes that how close the election was proves America has a racism problem. They're mad that since it was no decisive victory they don't have the mandate to crush white supremacy or bring on the bug pod Glorious Future or whatever they wanted.
At least on the bright side, a Biden presidency will mirror Obama’s second term more than his first. Like you said, there is no mandate if down ballot results show things leaning more Republican, which would make it much harder to implement any of his plans.
 
They been pushing the math is racist line and trying to decolonize math. Actually another thing to fear is Biden reinstating CRT everywhere in the government.
Been thinking lately that the Soviet Union could achieve impressive technological feats in the 30s and 40s because the scientists and engineers were trained before the revolution. The ones trained after were just not as good because of all the ideology in Soviet education.

Similarly, all modern technology and internet was built build engineers trained in the 60s-90s. Once the 'woke' need to start building the world, we're fucked.
 
My mom used to joke that she's from chicago, she'd vote even if she's dead. It's perhaps the most open secret ever but it's good to have someone who was there say "yep".
It is shocking though, that people just accept it and joke about it. Though I wonder if the blatantness of the fraud this time will give pause and have people consider what's going on in Cook County also.
Listen I'm about as politically and culturally educated as most shit flinging basement dwellers here on the farms, but cheating exist in all elections across the world. While this exposed the flaws in what we thought was a decent system, the fact that a lot of people are willing to come together to say "What the FUCK is this shit" and support a reform is what makes me optimistic about America. We're a bunch of screaming tards but on occassion that's exactly what we need to do: screech to the heavens about how our eights are being infringed. "We the people, in order to form a more perfect union" etc.. I will start being a doomer when the court tells us that everything was above level & to go back to your tv you fucking sheeple (they're old they forget computers exist). For now, I'm trying to say "I'm proud that the nation still has people willing to do the right thing and we do have checks in balances in place, and am damn lucky the rich are on our side for five seconds". Perhaps we can get more shit together later down the line once this is all over, perhaps we should all declare soveregin citizenship if this is allowed to go through, but foe now, it's nice to see the plebs fight for their rights.
Yeah, seeing people talking about this, seeing the state GOPs spring into action (except GA GOP, get your shit together), seeing some GOPers understand what's going on, and seeing typical conservatives at least talking about state legislators just saying fuck it and appoint their own electors as a possibility is a whitepill at the moment.
It won't lead to some stupid nonsense like civil war, but it just makes things terribly uncomfortable for everyone.
Everybody is going to wield the powers vested in them with fucking fire and fury.
Been thinking lately that the Soviet Union could achieve impressive technological feats in the 30s and 40s because the scientists and engineers were trained before the revolution. The ones trained after were just not as good because of all the ideology in Soviet education.

Similarly, all modern technology and internet was built build engineers trained in the 60s-90s. Once the 'woke' need to start building the world, we're fucked.
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Point is, TL;DR - This isn't the end of the fuckin' world, life will pretty much go on as it always has, you might get drafted to go blow up ragheads in Syria, etc. I know the whole "fuck your optics" thing is appealing but the main bullet points are these:

except, you know, the whole election fraud thing childsoldiers in bumfuck africa can pull off more competently. most people wouldn't have an issue with biden as president if he got there fair and square (with the usual amount of election fuckery), world might get shittier but there's a chance to turn things around in 2 or 4 years.

but if your vote is meaningless, what is the chance? what's the point when the dems can just keep going however they want? that's why this is so much more important than whoever ends up in the white house, because the trust in the basic principle of the US democracy has been damaged, and pretty much the whole world is holding their breath how they gonna try and fix it.

how do you think biden is gonna sell anything internationally when everybody can suspect he cheated his way to the top? what "mandate" is gonna work in the middle east when everybody knows "american freedom" is a sham and energizes those ragheads to a degree never seen before? how can he face off china and NK when it will literally affirms their propaganda?
how do you think the us population is gonna react when biden harris talks about "peace and unity" while half of them know they just took a steaming pile on their vote and law is already been applied however state attorneys see fit? this is the kind of shit that breaks a country. not tomorrow, not in a year, but I can guarantee you the next elections will look quite differently when it's not taken care of, and chances that happening under biden are laughable bad.
 
They're coming up with a narrative for everything. The one for the guy filling out lots of ballots for example is that the ballot was slightly messed up, so they're just fixing it, despite that being 100% illegal. I wonder what this one will be. Just that "Benford's law can't be used to determine fraud"?
Yes, it's being argued now that Benford's Law is not applicable to voter data and someone went ahead and added that to the Wikipedia page. I don't know if it's applicable or not but I am going to assume it is due to the reactions.
 
It's not even that.

We already see Democrats fundamentally distrusting in even the basic humanity of their political opponents. The Republicans are somewhat more magnanimous due to their historical status of being graceful losers, but the base are slowly losing trust in Democrats' basic humanity as well (arguably more correctly.)

It won't lead to some stupid nonsense like civil war, but it just makes things terribly uncomfortable for everyone.
Yeah as I said before a civil war will be the dumbest thing to happen for everyone but the LARPing faggots.

I think that unity in the country is going to be bad for many years no matter who wins.

However, despite this there will be a recovery as while things will look bad, America has gone through worse things and the country could heal it's wounds. It won't be through Trump or Biden however
 
At least on the bright side, a Biden presidency will mirror Obama’s second term more than his first. Like you said, there is no mandate if down ballot results show things leaning more Republican, which would make it much harder to implement any of his plans.
GOP has a runoff for two senate sets that the democrats might steal if Trump legit loses to Biden in the recount. Democrats greed thanks to fat fuck kween sheboon Stacey Abrams forced the rest of the GOP to rally to Trump as Cocaine Mitch does not want to lose the senate even if they hate Trump.

Stacey Abrams could help Trump become president because she found a loophole in ballot harvesting laws which activated the GOP to unfuck themselves and do something.
 
This sounds stupid but I think losing trust is something we might need. A lot of you complain about the current population being full of limp wristed coomers and consoomers who are all too happy to whine and be coddled, then shit their pants and do nothing. This can be a maturation for a number of them in a sense (not all of them - theres always people who fail the most basic of test).

A healthy dose of mistrust keeps the government (and corporations like disney) primed to try and garner it back. If they can't, they get fucked.
 
Yes, it's being argued now that Benford's Law is not applicable to voter data and someone went ahead and added that to the Wikipedia page. I don't know if it's applicable or not but I am going to assume it is due to the reactions.
This is how the section reads right now. Seems reasonably fair.
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Actually another thing to fear is Biden reinstating CRT everywhere in the government.
Thought that was "HRT everywhere in the government" at first lol

"A government of troons, not men." - Janice Adams
 
I don’t care who really wins anymore, I just want this to be sorted out. I’ll accept a Biden win if the legal votes are there, but otherwise, I have no reason to. That said, I want complete and total crackdown on this so that any recount is actually held the right way, preferably with military involvement and all political parties getting to view it. No more hiding.
 
One of people I frequently talk to keeps asking me why I'm so adamant in my belief that Joe Biden didn't win, and we've been at this 'stage' for awhile where no amount of actual evidence will persuade them because they'll slap it to the floor before they so much as look at the first paragraph or the first pixel, so we have a dynamic that's boiled itself down to "common sense arguments" because they refuse to look at anything I present, and I can't quit laughing whenever they pull up Snopes or VICE.

Setting aside all of the videos and pictures and Benford's laws and hockey stick graphs, the argument reduced all the way down to, "I do not legitimately believe that Joe Biden won the election, because his ability to win the election makes no historical or mathematical sense." Joe Biden, thus-far, is nearly at 75,000,000 votes, and through sheer numbers this means that he's performed extraordinarily well in every single demographic. Trump did better as a percentage of these demographics and in comparison to his 2016 election, but Biden would have performed better in total.

This would make Joe Biden the most electable man in the history of the United States. He will have outperformed every single candidate in the history of this country, despite the fact that a very large portion of the DNC hates him (Bernie's camp), the Conservatives and no small portion of the Independents either hate or strongly dislike him (Essentially 50%-60% of America), and he has an enthusiasm threshold so low that it can't be measured. Hate or dislike for a candidate from someone's own political party depresses turnout. They don't generally go out and protest vote or "settle for" the nominee, they just sit it out. Despite that, he's inexplicably broken the trend and broken every record.

You could argue that's due in part to Trump's unpopularity, so this a massive swell of protest votes against him. Oddly, they didn't make that argument, but it would be a good counter-point. I don't buy it, though. If Trump was considerably unpopular, he would not have received almost ten million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. His support base grew, it did not shrink. Barack Obama was solidly unpopular to the Conservatives and some moderates in his second election and he still performed very well. George Bush was thoroughly demonized by the media and the Democratic party, he'd gotten us into and maintained several wars, and he'd passed incredibly unpopular legislation like the Patriot Act, but he still wasn't toppled by a massive swell of protest votes. Despite a significant amount of disdain and a fairly unappealing opponent, the both of them went on to win by comfortable margins.

The only two states in the Republic that have very stringent laws to prevent fraud using absentee and mail-in ballots are Ohio (Thanks to 2004) and Florida (2000). These are the only two states that immediately swung for Trump and locked in, and he won them by very comfortable margins. I think that this would have been the case for most states in the Union, and this is why those other states that Joe Biden needed inexplicably locked down almost immediately after the counting started, and stopped counting entirely. I think they saw the gap widening, knew they had to close it, but the margin between the two was so wide that by the time they closed it, the results became absurd.

That's why the numbers don't make any sense. That's why all the graphs are fucked up, that's why Trump's support base grew in every demographic and he received almost ten million new supporters and yet it still looks like he's somehow lagging behind by an unreasonably large margin Every part of his support base grew, and yet he's still behind. I don't buy it. That makes absolutely no sense and it's in defiance of every single electoral pattern in history. I think that they were trying to crush him into a concession on the night of the election or shove so far ahead of him that it went beyond the threshold that allows for a recount, but they completely underestimated how well Trump was going to perform, so as they kept forcibly closing the gap, the 'fix' spun wildly out of control.

Suffice it to say, I was called a boot-licker. We don't have productive arguments.
 
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