2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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So what? Have a bunch of poll workers take the fall in the event their machination falls apart? Plausible, but it’d still come from something that could see Trump winning re-election so I can’t see that bullet being built.
The idea is fairly simple, create enough evidence you can -bury- someone, put their balls in a vice... then in a backroom deal come to an... agreement. "We'll look the other way to YOUR involvement, you will throw your ground troops under the bus and claim they acted alone, then you concede citing these bad actors." You then change the system to prevent this in the future.

If you put someones balls in a vice and push their back against the wall, their only recourse is to fight. Just look at the monumental fuckup that was the hitlist pushed by AOC, and how suddenly Trump has a LOT more GOP support.

But, if you have their balls in a vice and offer them an out that lets them pretend to have the moral high ground... well, they might just take it. And you always keep the ability to use that ball hold if they decide to work against you fixing things.
Perfect, between this, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin... things don't look so good for the democrats on the recount front. These aren't JUST recounts, they are full AUDITS. Why is this important? A recount just does basic voter information checks, lengthier than the voting process but still not terribly in depth. An AUDIT involves checking every single last detail of the ballots. Most importantly HERE, confirming the chain of custody.
I've been wondering how Hillary could have possibly lost if it's this easy to cheat in an American election.

My only guess is that they were convinced trump was going to get goldwater'd in 2016, and they didn't have the infrastructure ready to cheat on a collossal scale when they finally realized she was getting smoked.
It wasn't easy. It required an unprecedented, historic epidemic to open the door wide enough to get mail in ballots in play.
What would be a hilarious outcome out of all of this is that by the time lawsuits get so bad and word is getting out from the media, because hiding it would make them look worse, is that Biden just concedes. It’s optimistic, but if it gets bad enough, it would be funny for Biden to just concede after knowing he’d get publicly humiliated with the fraud.
Oh God that would be funny as hell. Him finally amount that he used fraud votes to tried to become president. Would awesome
Not... unprecedented, and see my top reply here for how that would go. Biden doesn't have to admit HE used voter fraud, he just has to throw enough low to middle ranked people under the bus.
This is good, VERY good. Dan wasn't a cuck, he did support Trump's efforts. But this shows signs that there is a motivating factor in the GOP, people who are pushing for more energized support rather than lip service.
Race won't be called for Biden until NC, GA, NV, and AK are called for either trump or biden. All of these states are holding back on reporting, there's a mexican standoff where Republican counties don't want to report first because Democrat counties will then get the numbers they need to beat and the democrat counties won't report it because they lose the advantage of fraud. NC is promising to call it on the 12th, NV was supposed to do it today, etc. Reminder that the constitution requires that all votes are submitted and counted *only* on election day.
I am so happy to see my analysis of that is now common currency and accepted. Considering I was the first to suggest it, and have now seen it echoed by actual officials... it makes me happy to be ahead of the curve on it.
Please, just this once, let the Qtard shit actually produce fruit.
H-human Hive... showing -optimism-!? 20-FUCKING-20
 
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That was in Miami, FL. They flaunted a feminist message with the bridge, though they claim that feminism had nothing to do with the composition of the team that designed it and apparently wasn't actually an all-female team.
This the one, I think
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The current unwilligness to fight in kind with Antifa/BLM is economic and social in nature. It is not the result of widespread personal lack of virtue.

Political violence only happens in two scenarios:
1. When you as an individual have nothing to lose - no family, no job, no home, no career; be it from tyranny, injustice, or simple youth.
2. When you as an individual have everything to gain - wealth, power, new liberty, new opportunity.

Those who work so-so jobs in offices and live in so-so apartments, eating so-so food and having so-so sex, will never revolt so long as all of the above remains no worse than so-so. Violence results in losing all of the above at least temporarily, so it’s too much risk until a line is crossed regarding their living standards. “What about the American revolution?” You might say. “They had okay-ish lives under the British and still fought for freedom.” It takes some reading between the lines, but during that period winters in NA and Europe were unusually cold and famines occurred, most famously in France. The Colonists may have believed it was all about liberty, but their wallets and stomaches likely did more of the revolting than their oppressed souls. For another example, consider how Antifa are usually students with nothing to tie them down, and as they find careers they cease in participating in the most violent protests. They still support the cause, they just leave it to the next generation because there’s too much at stake and too little to gain to risk participating.

State stability is a socio-economic concern; not a matter of pure politics. So to your point, no amount of redpills will cause Republicans to “wake up” and openly protest in a way that would accomplish anything. Too tied to employment and their salary. They will protest, but not like Antifa.
I was less looking for violence and more passive actions of "you fucked this up I'm not going to buy this from you anymore" with my statement. I just assumed people were going to take the lazy way of not participating than direct negative action. It's hard to maintain a company or a political career if no one wants to give you money or the time of day. You're right on all accounts though.
 
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I notice liberals always seem to have a fascination with converting their opponents even if they win. They damn well knew Trump is no Bernie or is no 1960 election era Nixon or in a mood to make deals that could hold him back like they did in 1877. And they still tried to fucking rig this election. And it's like Nixon doing Watergate in the middle of that day because that is how brazen their attempt was. Now they don't know how to deal with a super pissed off right wing populist who knows how to deal with laws.

And people like AOC give Trump great reasons or incentives to push his right wing populist character into 1488 or Ceasar territory. Many of these liberals have never fired a gun and seriously believe believe they can carry out violence for real.

I believe as stated earlier that Trump may have tipped off Biden and both side are negotiating in backrooms. Or maybe there is animosity for real between both parties. And both are like waiting for the other's move.
AOC’s Stalin LARPing would motivate me too. The more she openly talks like this, the worse her party looks. Then again, AOC doesn’t have enough self awareness to realize how bad she looks right now.
 
AOC’s Stalin LARPing would motivate me too. The more she openly talks like this, the worse her party looks. Then again, AOC doesn’t have enough self awareness to realize how bad she looks right now.
It only appears to the authoritarian ANTIFA types that everybody - republican and democrat alike - absolutely hate.

With the reduced Dem majority in the House, I wonder if the squad will try and fuck up Pelosi getting the speakership again.
 
Most importantly HERE, confirming the chain of custody.
This one could get hot. What happens if there is no way of confirming this? Do the ballots get thrown out?
I was less looking for violence and more passive actions of "you fucked this up I'm not going to buy this from you anymore" with my statement. I just assumed people were going to take the lazy way of not participating than direct negative action. It's hard to maintain a company or a political career if no one wants to give you money or the time of day. You're right on all accounts though.
People are starting to do this with Fox News over the absolutely horrid biased election coverage this year. Their saving grace is Tucker and to a lesser extent, Hannity, and it seems like they know it, which is why FNC is allowing coverage of the fraud.
AOC’s Stalin LARPing would motivate me too. The more she openly talks like this, the worse her party looks. Then again, AOC doesn’t have enough self awareness to realize how bad she looks right now.
More examples of democrats stepping in it and fucking it up for themselves in spectacular fashion.
 
That was in Miami, FL. They flaunted a feminist message with the bridge, though they claim that feminism had nothing to do with the composition of the team that designed it and apparently wasn't actually an all-female team.
OH YEAH that shitshow! Didn't a Chinese company work on it instead and do a shitty ass job on it? Good times.
AOC’s Stalin LARPing would motivate me too. The more she openly talks like this, the worse her party looks. Then again, AOC doesn’t have enough self awareness to realize how bad she looks right now.
Considering the leaked democratic meeting call and how at least one person said "If we mention socialism we'll be unelectable & the defund the police nearly cost me the race", hopefully others in the party are taking action as well. But again, this woman has no self awareness as you said and is in a place where she can coast on promising free shit to people so she ain't going to be convinced by Nancy or anyone else.

Praying that the hard left starts to split off into its own branch and fucks itself over. It won't happen, probably just a string of "no you're not being elected again" type of deal and such.
 
This one could get hot. What happens if there is no way of confirming this? Do the ballots get thrown out?

People are starting to do this with Fox News over the absolutely horrid biased election coverage this year. Their saving grace is Tucker and to a lesser extent, Hannity, and it seems like they know it, which is why FNC is allowing coverage of the fraud.

More examples of democrats stepping in it and fucking it up for themselves in spectacular fashion.
Up to the auditing force, the legislature. But, given that the legislature has full rights to determine election law... yes. Just thrown out.

Also, a note that they don't necessarily need to determine SPECIFIC VOTES to throw out. The Legislature's job is to verify the TOTALS. They can determine, fairly loosely, how many ballots they -think- were added and just throw out all the results that came from it as a numeric value, not as specific ballots.
 
Biden doesn't have to admit HE used voter fraud, he just has to throw enough low to middle ranked people under the bus.
If he loses and is found to have committed fraud this is 1000% how it goes.
The DNC rats out the low-level dangerhairs and joggers who did the footwork of the fraud and they alongside maybe one-two B tier politicians get to eat shit in prison for life.
Joe will be spared, saying he "didn't know of any of it" and the DNC will even admit he's demented to prove that no way a senile old fart could mastermind this; it was all just some lowly miscreants and B-tier rejects.

And I'm personally ok with that, so long as Twitter gets to eat so much shit Jack Dorsey starts asking for more plates of it due to how much he's grown to like the taste of it.

Oh and that faggot Cooper and his buttbuddy Colbert have to issue a live public apology. I can see Colbert straight refusing, saying #resist, and then blowing his brains out.


That’s statistically impossible, very few people ever live to be that old.
Who said they were alive?
 
On another note, here's a matter I've been chewing on after repeated discussions with family, but I either haven't seen it brought up here or over in the Doomsday thread or I may have missed it because I don't watch these threads as often as I was earlier in the week:

Setting aside how the legal wheels seem to be just STARTING to churn as of today/tonight, certain members of my family have repeatedly attested that if these swing states won't abide court orders and are outright ignoring them, then the U.S. Marshal can be sent in to put a stop to that shit right now, remove anyone involved in blocking recounts/Republican observation of the count, and replace them with neutral parties so that the process can be carried out how it was meant to be. Same thing with suspending a federal judge who is refusing to play ball with constitutional law and temporarily having another federal judge take their place so that everything can be carried out according to the law.

My question becomes, in the face of things like the fuckery that was happening in Pennsylvania from the legal angle, why hasn't that happened yet? Why hasn't it happened sooner? I'm ignorant on this matter, so an explanation would be appreciated.
 
If he loses and is found to have committed fraud this is 1000% how it goes.
The DNC rats out the low-level dangerhairs and joggers who did the footwork of the fraud and they alongside maybe one-two B tier politicians get to eat shit in prison for life.
Joe will be spared, saying he "didn't know of any of it" and the DNC will even admit he's demented to prove that no way a senile old fart could mastermind this; it was all just some lowly miscreants and B-tier rejects.

And I'm personally ok with that, so long as Twitter gets to eat so much shit Jack Dorsey starts asking for more plates of it due to how much he's grown to like the taste of it.
Something that the sheer number of 'optimistic' ratings I get seems to miss. I am a deep cynic. But the great thing about cynicism is that yous top viewing your politicians as people who just want to do good, and instead view them as cancerous sharks who want their pound of meat for as cheaply as possible.

Ironically for all the doomering, it is Trump here who has the most ability to bite chunks out of his opponents. The fraud was blatant and evidence mounting, connections will be formed. He is also POTUS, and has more than a little ability to make life uncomfortable. Meanwhile, the left has already wasted all its biggest guns on attempts to take him down. Now, when they could use them the most, they have nothing new to hit HIM with but he has a ton of new ammo to use on THEM.

All of politics is a back room negotiation, and the only one with any real cards left to play is Trump. The only question is if he can successfully leverage them. I remain unconvinced he can, but his odds of succeeding have gone up in my view from 20 to about 40. And the fact that the fuckup is to such a scale that he almost has a coin flip chance is more a testament to the sheer idiocy of the democrats than anything about Trump.
 
From Twitter: In Pennsylvania, 104 People Voted at the age of 120 and 182 people voted are 105 or older.
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It's a Democrat area, so they obviously achieved MovieBob's superior Star Trek future and the average lifespan goes into the mid to late 100s, obviously.
Up to the auditing force, the legislature. But, given that the legislature has full rights to determine election law... yes. Just thrown out.

Also, a note that they don't necessarily need to determine SPECIFIC VOTES to throw out. The Legislature's job is to verify the TOTALS. They can determine, fairly loosely, how many ballots they -think- were added and just throw out all the results that came from it as a numeric value, not as specific ballots.
Now that's pretty interesting. This whole situation's about to get wild. Could they use times of the 150k spikes, and do they just have full latitude, since they are the legislature?
If he loses and is found to have committed fraud this is 1000% how it goes.
The DNC rats out the low-level dangerhairs and joggers who did the footwork of the fraud and they alongside maybe one-two B tier politicians get to eat shit in prison for life.
Joe will be spared, saying he "didn't know of any of it" and the DNC will even admit he's demented to prove that no way a senile old fart could mastermind this; it was all just some lowly miscreants and B-tier rejects.

And I'm personally ok with that, so long as Twitter gets to eat so much shit Jack Dorsey starts asking for more plates of it due to how much he's grown to like the taste of it.

Oh and that faggot Cooper and his buttbuddy Colbert have to issue a live public apology. I can see Colbert straight refusing, saying #resist, and then blowing his brains out.
I can only hope that Trump is pissed enough that he'll absolutely rain hell, but I guess if it leads to much much much more oversight and reform, it'll be worth it.
 
That software that all the swing states use?

That's created by a DNC connected company?

That Texas rejected because it wasn't secure?

Because it connects to the internet?

But they insist that it's fine because it's IP filtered and secure?

... they uploaded an unapproved update to the devices on Election day.

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It is shit like this that is the reason that in my country, we count and recount and recount. By hand. At the polling place. And then we count and recount over and over again at the county election office.
 
It took me a while to parse what you said, but I thought I'd reply and just say that my in-law will be ok. She's got good people looking after her and apparently some Filipino block party she's attending to take her mind off things.

I mostly feel bad for her because this election has been the kind of shenanigans second and third world countries like the Philippines are known for, and it seems extra crappy to take the long road of legal immigration from a place that can't hold a proper election to America...

Who suddenly decides they can't hold a proper election.

I just keep reminding myself she lives in a small town and my fam will take good care of her no matter what. I'm lucky in the sense that my people are mostly in backwaters where they'll be the last effected by whatever winds up happening.
 
If massive blowback happens to people like AOC and she ends to getting primaried for stuff like this, I will laugh. I won’t count on a Republican winning her district anytime soon, but I could see her being ousted next election if she keeps doing stuff like this.

I'm sorry, but if they're allowed to get away with fraud, you're never going to have an "election" where votes count again. It's just not historically or statistically what happens. It's just... not how it works. Once they KNOW they can cheat, people's votes don't matter.
 
My question becomes, in the face of things like the fuckery that was happening in Pennsylvania from the legal angle, why hasn't that happened yet? Why hasn't it happened sooner? I'm ignorant on this matter, so an explanation would be appreciated.
Simply put, insufficient time. Also some cruel calculus. If you use the marshals to force your way in, but find nothing, you gain nothing. If you are kept out though, even if nothing is going on... it sure does throw a pall over it all.
Now that's pretty interesting. This whole situation's about to get wild. Could they use times of the 150k spikes, and do they just have full latitude, since they are the legislature?
Hypothetically, they could throw out the 100Ks on an entirely different grounds. They CLAIMED they were no longer counting, but counted anyway. If they fail to explain why, the legislature can throw those out purely on the grounds of impropriety. Given that I hold it was a panic moment... they probably don't have a good reason.
 
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