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I get the idea from various sites that she’s more than welcome to return. The problem is that iirc she was shit on super hard by JPs, with a “Look at how all these foreigners think so naively of you.” narrative about MASS and other forms of support. The toxic nijifans and antis are still there, and there’s nothing we overseas fans can do about it.
I know about japan's toxic ans stupid obsession with this image of "idol's purity" (korea also has this), but what did she really do to justify that level of hate?
 
I know about japan's toxic ans stupid obsession with this image of "idol's purity" (korea also has this), but what did she really do to justify that level of hate?
Being a potential security leak and speaking ill of Nijisanji. The story is a bit more detailed but that's the basics of it.
 
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I either forgot or didn't know about the nijisanji trashtalking part
She mentioned an alleged friend of hers who was forced to graduate because she was doxxed, Nijifans didn’t like it. I found the inciting video with subtitles, will post once I get the time.

Edit: Uploaded and with a direct link https://files.catbox.moe/nj05dn.mp4
 

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The problem is that iirc she was shit on super hard by JPs
Not the first time it happened, the western fandom is prepared to raise her to the top like it happened with Towa, she only need the courage to come back, the amount of people crying for her in her birthday was sky high
 
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Ina coming through with art of Enma. Very tasteful. You can even see the little badges on her ID strap representing the EN branch.
 
There's a channel called "Aloe Love" posting her covers. Im not sure if these were taken from from her past identity or the identity she is going by now, either way, im not sure if this is a good thing. From what i've read in this thread so far it sounds like Aloe does not want to be associated with "Aloe" anymore. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC08Xsgu9ChPic8cM2rEr6lQ
According to some rumours is not that she dont want to be Aloe anymore, is that she feel is to late to start again, even when her return is wished like the return of jesus but she so self defeatist that can't imagine people actually want her back, even when she still has a squad of simps hiding there, the M.A.S.S never disbanded
 
According to some rumours is not that she dont want to be Aloe anymore, is that she feel is to late to start again, even when her return is wished like the return of jesus but she so self defeatist that can't imagine people actually want her back, even when she still has a squad of simps hiding there, the M.A.S.S never disbanded
That's unfortunate, because she's still so young too. I do hope there's at least support not only from the Western side but the JP side as well. Though, my concern with my intial post was more that the channel was reuploading her covers. I know everyone just wants a taste of what could have been, but at the same time after everything that has happened and how her fanbox is basically private, it feels wrong to reupload all this without her consent
 
According to some rumours is not that she dont want to be Aloe anymore, is that she feel is to late to start again, even when her return is wished like the return of jesus but she so self defeatist that can't imagine people actually want her back, even when she still has a squad of simps hiding there, the M.A.S.S never disbanded
This is true, she actually said she took a break from social media around Aloe's (the character) birthday back on Oct. 28th because it hurts to see the support for a shadow of a past life, something that could have been but never was. The way I personally interpreted her words is she doesn't care about the Aloe character anymore and gets upset when people talk about it, draw fan art of her, etc. I didn't have the heart to tell my artist friends who drew her for her birthday all that though. Don't think I ever will either. Some things are better left unsaid.

Also, as far as what was said before about her thinking the whole JP community were enemies, I'll attach another excerpt of her talking about that-


She's calmed down a bit about it now but she's still very wary and paranoid about things, hence why her regular Delutaya Twitter is Protected (but if you add her and she sees you're cool/a genuine Vtuber fan, she'll accept you), and why she really doesn't want people going around advertising her all over the place, and asked that one dude on YT to take the video about her 'new' persona down.

oh and apparently that Aloe Love YT channel has spoken to her and gotten her consent to upload her songs. Or, at least, he claims he has. No way to confirm beyond that though.
 

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