2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

Status
Not open for further replies.
I'm not talking simply about krauts, I'm talking Europeans in general. I agree Germany is lost.
I don’t see or hear of any Europoors seeking asylum here. They are quite complacent getting substandard and often tardy “free” healthcare, or getting culturally enriched in Islamistan. Or they retreat to the countryside.
 
EmRIQd5XEAI6oxZ.jpg

i got exactly what i wanted out of all of this
 
I deal in facts and reasonable expectations. When the State Legislatures started to move, that was when things changed. SC alone equals one moral victory in maybe PA and nowhere else. Combined with other avenues of attack, odds go up. Biden might still win, but this will likely wound him in a public fashion in that scenario.
I was a bit ahead of the curve for you on this, but you and I seem to have come at this from differing angles. I was busy focusing with minute detail on how my state (Wisconsin) was reacting to it. Wisconsin is a swing state, has been for some time, but has a solid majority Republican legislature. The governor only is a democrat by an election he won by a single percentage point, against a hideously unpopular candidate. So this state was what I would consider a bellwether of how other states were going to react.

What perked my ears early on was the Wisconsin legislature opening quiet inquiries into the election. They didn't want to stand out... but they weren't doing nothing.

This was just prior to Cruz and Graham going full hog with their support, and then McConnell and McCarthy announced tepid but clear support,

This was when I bumped up my bet from at best a 10% chance to probably around a 40%. Still not great, but nowhere near as awful. It was clear to me that this wasn't being taken lying down. It was an uphill battle though, and I still don't rank Trump's chances as better than a coin toss to win... but as long as he is not convinced to concede, he and the GOP will at least wound Biden hard.


And even if he loses, the future no longer looks bleak. The close look into Georgia revealed their plans for the Runoff and the legislature is already planning to fix that. Senate remains conservative and the infighting in the house will be fun to watch. Biden will be a lame duck, with FAR less wiggle room with his EOs than Obama due to the conservative supreme court. A Supreme Court who would likely have ruled against Trump in this scenario, but who isn't likely to just totally roll over and will give Biden an equally hard time with his EOs.

Additionally, a ton of swing states run by republicans look set to have some severe issues with how their elections are run. By being so blatant in so many ways, the course is clear and there is already quiet noise leaking to me that Wisconsin at least is looking at its election laws -very- closely.

And finally, the left is imploding. Trump is the only thing keeping them together. And while I originally thought Biden being a lame duck would be the worst thing they get, a -wounded- Biden is red meat for both factions in the left who hate his faction. The left is built on surviving a fair bit of cannibalism, but what is being set up with a wounded leadership in both sections of congress and the executive is nothing short of a feeding frenzy that the left -can't- easily absorb.

And the potential special prosecutor might not find anything, but I can guarantee you that the blue dog dems and the progressive will be as eager as the Republicans to find way to make such a prosecutor wound the establishment left even deeper.


The biggest irony here, is that this likely wouldn't have happened. The support for a full blown attack by the GOP was tepid at best and while congressional republicans and state legislators were looking and supporting, it was very quiet. Until The List appeared. That must be the single biggest political Own Goal I have ever seen in my life. Announcing, before any ink was dry on the page, your absolute intent to round people up and attack the Republicans. Ho-ly Shit. It put every single Republican's back against thew wall, and ensured that they had absolutely no reason NOT to go in.
 
Last edited:
I messaged my friend in Westchester County, New York earlier today and wrote, "I can't believe sleepy Joe is going to be president. He's a senile corpse. I hate this year so much.".

He never responded to me but I see he opened my message, so he probably voted for Biden. I hope he doesn't hate me, but what do I care anymore? LOL
I have a liberal friend that caught on that I support Trump and has started distancing herself from me. We need new friends :(
 
Reddit got so close to flipping out when they heard blacks and hispanics voted for Trump. They were saying stuff like "They're just as uneducated as any backwood hick".
I’m sure blacks and Hispanics were just delighted to hear that they are just pawns. Saying stuff like this only gets people to abandon whatever political side you’re on.
 
It's surreal to see Cruz, of all people in the GOP, being loyal to Trump. I thought he had his balls surgically removed THAT day we all remember. And now you're even hinting at a Cruz/Trump jr. ticket?

What next, Jeb coming out as trans?
McCain dying was the best thing to happen to America.
 
Reddit got so close to flipping out when they heard blacks and hispanics voted for Trump. They were saying stuff like "They're just as uneducated as any backwood hick".
The modern Left are such elitist snobs that I’m sure they’d be hanged in any real socialist country. Instead of something reasonable like “hmmm, maybe we should focus on reindustrializing too; blacks want jobs and social mobility, so unrust the Rust belt and we’re back on track”, they immediately just assume anyone who disagrees with them is stupid, evil, or both.
 
The cracks appearing is likely the second best thing to happen to America. If Trump loses, he did something no one else did. He broke the democrats hegemony. Time will tell if it was a fluke or a new paradigm, but if the latter the democrats are going to have -problems-. Their entire system is based on cannibalism, eating the less pure to make the majority feel better.... but doing that to whole groups of people who identify together strongly will turn them off hard. Their strongest tactic to maintain internal cohesion becomes the very thing that breaks it.
 
And even if he loses, the future no longer looks bleak.
I think the most important thing is that, win or lose, it'll keep faith in the system.

If he wins, that means fraud won't be successful or tolerated, and shame on you for thinking otherwise.

If he loses, it means that, even with some weird anomalies, the system is working as it should be.
 
The modern Left are such elitist snobs that I’m sure they’d be hanged in any real socialist country. Instead of something reasonable like “hmmm, maybe we should focus on reindustrializing too; blacks want jobs and social mobility, so unrust the Rust belt and we’re back on track”, they immediately just assume anyone who disagrees with them is stupid, evil, or both.
They are the bourgeoisie and don’t even realize it. Under a communist takeover, they’d be killed first.
 
The cracks appearing is likely the second best thing to happen to America. If Trump loses, he did something no one else did. He broke the democrats hegemony. Time will tell if it was a fluke or a new paradigm, but if the latter the democrats are going to have -problems-. Their entire system is based on cannibalism, eating the less pure to make the majority feel better.... but doing that to whole groups of people who identify together strongly will turn them off hard. Their strongest tactic to maintain internal cohesion becomes the very thing that breaks it.
If you want to find out how something dies, look to its foundation. Everything else can collapse and rot away, easily rebuilt, but whatever flaws were there at its inception will be permanent and ultimately fatal.
 
It's surreal to see Cruz, of all people in the GOP, being loyal to Trump. I thought he had his balls surgically removed THAT day we all remember. And now you're even hinting at a Cruz/Trump jr. ticket?
Like @Gehenna mentioned above, I think Cruz and the rest of the GOP understands what time it is. They realize if they don't try to stop this now, it will end badly for them - and possibly not just badly electorally.
 
Cruz going to bat for Trump never gets old. Talk about a turnaround

don't think it's even that much about trump and more about the principle. as someone else mentioned, cruz would probably love to be a forefather.
also gives him much better chances if he's gonna try again in 2024, it certainly helped his popularity.

plus, the guy knows how to take a joke compared to most politicians, that alone puts him in a league of his own.

Bee.png


bee2.png
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back