Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge

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I still can't wrap my mind aroudn where the fuck he got the idea that we worship rapists and "seducers" (whatever he means by 'seducers') and throw people who don't rape in jail.
I mean, has he even witnessed our justice system?
 
I still can't wrap my mind aroudn where the fuck he got the idea that we worship rapists and "seducers" (whatever he means by 'seducers') and throw people who don't rape in jail.
I mean, has he even witnessed our justice system?
His own experience of the justice system had him soliciting the judge for sex.
 
Holden's the type of dog that would shit in the house just to spite you
Yes, which is why I said "housebroken". If all else fails, he'll be subjected to diapering and crating. :mad:

But, seriously...
I still can't wrap my mind aroudn where the fuck he got the idea that we worship rapists and "seducers" (whatever he means by 'seducers') and throw people who don't rape in jail.
I mean, has he even witnessed our justice system?
He's been arrested three times (that we know of) for his nude protesting.
 
Yes, which is why I said "housebroken". If all else fails, he'll be subjected to diapering and crating. :mad:

But, seriously...

He's been arrested three times (that we know of) for his nude protesting.
So, arrested for NUDE protest, comes to the conclusion that he was arrested because he's NOT RAPING PEOPLE?
I've seen people completely fail to apply logic and cognitive functioning to their lives but this... I've never seen a failure of this magnitude in the processing of "If X, then Y" before.
He does realize that public nudity is a criminal offense in several countries in most areas, right? Or is he a complete idiot who's entire facade of intelligence is built out of horseshit arguments citing apparent scholars whose arguments were old when I was born, calling everyone an idiot, and pretending that that's all logical argument is structured from.
 
Yes, which is why I said "housebroken". If all else fails, he'll be subjected to diapering and crating. :mad:

But, seriously...

He's been arrested three times (that we know of) for his nude protesting.
Actually, he was arrested once for nude protesting, once for threatening a murder-suicide online, and once for assaulting his parents.

You'd think that- by his logic- he'd be rolling in pussy now.

But he'll probably counter with something about how those things aren't rape and that's what really makes women horny.
 
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So, arrested for NUDE protest, comes to the conclusion that he was arrested because he's NOT RAPING PEOPLE?
I've seen people completely fail to apply logic and cognitive functioning to their lives but this... I've never seen a failure of this magnitude in the processing of "If X, then Y" before.
He does realize that public nudity is a criminal offense in several countries in most areas, right? Or is he a complete idiot who's entire facade of intelligence is built out of horseshit arguments citing apparent scholars whose arguments were old when I was born, calling everyone an idiot, and pretending that that's all logical argument is structured from.
He was nude protesting (While banging a drum) in front of a government building to bring awareness to "incel" and that the government should give him a wife. Here's a HuffPost article, but there is one on a Croatian site. Someone else might have the link.

@trombonista, ah yes. I forgot about those. He told me that there was more than one naked protest. (Leeway here given the source) @Rammspieler was involved with the murder-suicide incident, but for the third I think his parents dropped the charges?
 
Holden's had some interesting logic on his arrests.

Protesting naked for Government Gets Girlfriends:

True Logic - Arrested for indecent exposure. Possible others depending on specifics we don't know.
Fuckbot Logic - Arrested for publicizing the condition of incel and the truth that men need women and sexual experience to be happy.

Threatening a murder-suicide plot:

True Logic - Arrested for credible threats to another's life.
Fuckbot Logic - Arrested for non-raping and non-seducing behavior.

Assaulting his parents:

True Logic - Arrested for harming others who then pressed charges (albeit briefly).
Fuckbot Logic - Arrested as a terrorist against the world order to keep certain men incel.

Did I get anything wrong, Holden?
 
Ok, hold on a second... I'm a little new to this guy and I'm still catching up with his first thousand pages, so please forgive my lateness.

Out of everything about this douche, there is one thing that truly stands out to me.... Tj is actually smarter than this guy? I mean, from what I have read, he really kicked his ass. TJ? Mr. Cowlick? Damn.... I actually feel some measure of respect for TJ now. It is not a lot, but it is still a whole lot more than what I feel for this pathetic creature.

TJ.... I owe you an apology. You are not the most pathetic person I know. I will add that to the "Ballad of the Greaterest Mind of the Good Mr. Church" that I'm writing.
 
The biggest fault in Holden's logic is that you go to prison for not raping. He says he doesn't rape. But he's not in prison.

Obviously something is wrong here. Lol

So in his logic, everyone that is arguing with him here should be in prison because we aren't rapists? Yeah, that's pretty nukkin futs. I also notice he seems to mention something about "Women hating providers because they are not rapists" or something like that? So does he feel that the only successful people in the world are rapist bastards?

And on that line, to him, women enjoy rape but are brainwashed against it? Seriously? I know a few women who have been raped. One of them worked with me, and if she had to work a late shift, she would beg people she knew to walk her to her car because she was afraid it would happen again. She was raped in the parking lot of where we worked. I can definitely say that she didn't like it one bit. The idea of it happening again terrified her to no end.
 
The biggest fault in Holden's logic is that you go to prison for not raping. He says he doesn't rape. But he's not in prison.

Obviously something is wrong here. Lol
It all goes full-circle, so I'm not too concerned with that... Broken record 'n all.

@sugoi-chan, which part of my thoughts do you disagree with?
 
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Try not to think too hard about it. You'll only get a headache.

I've got plenty of advil if needed, but seriously, how does he even come up with this shit? From what I've read, it seems like when faced with a true argument, he basically claims it doesn't work with HIS criteria and therefore can't be used against him, uses insults as a method of refuting what is said, or gives answers that a two year old can poke holes in.
 
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I've got plenty of advil if needed, but seriously, how does he even come up with this shit? From what I've read, it seems like when faced with a true argument, he basically claims it doesn't work with HIS criteria and therefore can't be used against him, uses insults as a method of refuting what is said, or gives answers that a two year old can poke holes in.
No women pushed themselves on him when he was young, his parents didn't trick him with a hooker for his first time, and then he found what's his face (loveshy leader who's married now. Starts with an f....). He was told by these people that it's te women, not him, with the problem. The rest is history. Long story short. Holden doesn't have a single individual thought in his body. He regurgitates what others tell him.
 
I also notice he seems to mention something about "Women hating providers because they are not rapists" or something like that? So does he feel that the only successful people in the world are rapist bastards?

In his ideal world, women are supposed to love and be absolutely subservient to "providers" (which he fancies himself to be one). According to him, this was way the Roman Empire grew strong. However, thanks to ebil dirty dang feminism, women are freed from the need for providers (either through having a job or having a tugboat). Providers therefore become obsolete, and the only way men can get women is through "seduction" (which he denounces as evil because he is a lousy seducer) or rape.
 
I've got plenty of advil if needed, but seriously, how does he even come up with this shit? From what I've read, it seems like when faced with a true argument, he basically claims it doesn't work with HIS criteria and therefore can't be used against him, uses insults as a method of refuting what is said, or gives answers that a two year old can poke holes in.
You're pretty much bang on right there. He'll deny it though.
 
Soooo, yeah. He's a nut job. Even animals use the art of seduction to find mates (Colorful feathers, displays of building nests, I've even seen birds dance to attract a mate...) so calling seduction evil is basically the same as calling nature evil.

Holden needs to realize that natural selection is basically the more attractive males get the females. As stated, it can be any number of ways for a male to be considered "More attractive" than others. So basically he can't do what even animals are smart enough to do. To keep up the nature references, maybe we will get lucky and the day he actually finds a WILLING woman, she will be like a preying mantis and bite his head off once they are finished.
 
Soooo, yeah. He's a nut job. Even animals use the art of seduction to find mates (Colorful feathers, displays of building nests, I've even seen birds dance to attract a mate...) so calling seduction evil is basically the same as calling nature evil.

Holden needs to realize that natural selection is basically the more attractive males get the females. As stated, it can be any number of ways for a male to be considered "More attractive" than others. So basically he can't do what even animals are smart enough to do. To keep up the nature references, maybe we will get lucky and the day he actually finds a WILLING woman, she will be like a preying mantis and bite his head off once they are finished.
It's funny that you mention that, because he does talk about animal seduction using peacocks as examples. You can find it in his manifesto thingie.

SEDUCTION
I now have to describe the evolutionary impact of seduction.

I first have to start by addressing what seduction is NOT.

Seduction must not be equated with sympathy or the feeling of what is called falling in love.

The main hypothesis of Fisherian runaway is described like this:

The evolution of male ornamentation, an example being the colourful and elaborate male peacock plumage compared to the relatively subdued femalepeahen plumage, represented a paradox for evolutionary biologists in the period following Darwin and leading up to the modern evolutionary synthesis; the selection for costly ornaments appearing incompatible with natural selection. Fisherian runaway is an attempt to resolve this paradox using an assumed genetic basis for both the preference and the ornament, and through the less obvious but powerful forces of sexual selection (a sub component of natural selection). Fisherian runaway hypothesizes that females choose “attractive” males with the most exaggerated ornaments based solely upon the males’ possession of that ornament. According to Fisher, if strong enough, female preference for exaggerated ornamentation in mate selection could be enough to undermine natural selection if the ornament under sexual selection is otherwise non-adaptive (naturally selected against). Fisher hypothesized this counteraction would result in the next generation’s male offspring being more likely to possess the ornament (and female offspring more likely to possess the preference for the ornament) than the previous generation. Over subsequent generations this would lead to the runaway selection (via a positive feedback mechanism) for males who possess the most exaggerated ornaments.

However, this becomes disadvantageous to for the birds, as….

The plumage dimorphism of male peacocks and female peahen of the species within the Pavo genus are the de facto example of the ornamentation paradox that has long puzzled evolutionary biologists. The peacock’s colorful and elaborate tail requires a great deal of energy to grow and maintain. It also reduces the bird’s agility, and may even increase the animal’s visibility to predators. It would appear that the expression of an elaborate and colourful tail would serve to lower the overall fitness of the individuals who possess it. Yet, it has evolved. Within the context of evolution this would indicate that peacocks with longer and more colorfully elaborate tails have some advantage over peacocks who don’t, that is to say the expression of the costly tail serves to increase overall fitness. Fisherian runaway posits that the evolution of the peacock tail is made possible if peahens have a preference to mate with peacocks that possess a longer and more colourful tail. Peahens that select males with these tails in turn have male offspring that are more likely to have long and colourful tails and thus are more likely to be sexually successful themselves because of the preference for them by peahens. Furthermore the peahens that select males with longer and more colourful tails are more likely to produce peahen offspring that have a preference for peacocks with longer and more colourful tails. Given this, having a preference for longer and more colorful tails bestows an advantage to peahens just as having a longer and more colorful tail does bestows an advantage upon peacocks.

I am not trying to judge the amount of validity this hypothesis has in its original context. For one, I am not not educated in that field. Also, not even all of the scientists agree.

My point is that this resembles what I will be talking about here in a way that it describes the horrendous impacts of seduction on human species.

Seduction is inherently worthless. Being “sexy” alone doesn’t mean anything. In many societies throughout history extreme obesity was a status symbol. Being attractive means nothing on its own.

What matters for the betterment of species is why somebody is attractive. If somebody is attractive due to positive traits that is the most important factor for it’s betterment. If one is attractive due to negative traits that is horrible for its betterment.

One of the greatest lies told today is that just by being reproductively successful you’re successful participating in a betterment of the species.

But how is that logical or possible if the main tool for this success today is seduction, which offers nothing but “pretty feathers”? What needs to be accentuated is that things like presentation of strength, material goods or intelligence/morality aren’t seduction. Seduction is “smooth talk”, it is a desire to procreate by giving nothing at all.

In other words, seduction is an evolutionary tool that is, if successful in a large number, disastrous for the species, since it removes the incentive to produce from men unskilled in it (but skilled in vital things) by removing their ability to ever enter relationships, have sex or create a family.
It is the single greatest negative aspect of modern society. Nothing is more disastrous for men, women or children than seduction being a successful evolutionary tool.

Seduction is disastrous for men since it enables the most stupid and immoral men to procreate while destroying the incentive of decent men.

Seduction is disastrous for women since it turns them into sluts who pick any man if he is immoral or stupid enough (which modern Western women believe is “sexy”) and it eventually likely turns them into single mothers

Seduction is horrible for children since it means they will be a product of most immoral and stupid men as well as sluts and that will likely live in a single-parent household and in poverty (since they will understand that wealth is no great reproductive tool).

Seduction is simply an all-round disaster.
 
I love it when dumbasses misuses science to "prove" their dumb points. Fisherian runaway will not go unchecked because sexual display is costly, and directly reduces an individual's genetic fitness -- what's good for brilliant plumage if you're eaten by a bobcat before you have a chance to fuck?
 
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