Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

  • 🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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The more I think about this, the more I believe we need to take steps to uniquify every single ballot.
Trump's next move will be to demand an entire recount of all ballots in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and Wisconsin.

That the re-count will be carried out by independent auditors with Democrat and Republican observers.

Offer full cooperation to Biden with the transition in return.

Hey Joe, if you won fair and square you should have nothing to worry about.

If Biden turns him down Trump will go full scorched earth.
 
I'm originally from Oklahoma, and those aren't ballots. I don't know what they are, because he never zooms in, but I can tell you with 100% certainty they are not actual ballots. They look to me like practice or example ballots printed online. I think this video is staged and I think the dude is a piece of shit trying to sew discord. I find it interesting that the video is so fucking low rez, that I can't see what the one ballot that has only half instead of all of the top ripped off says.

In Oklahoma, surprisingly, we actually take our election security very seriously. Ballots are thick, counterfeit resistant cream-colored paper, almost like cardstock, and when you turn in your ballot, you physically slide it into the scantron so it is tallied immediately. The scantron is physically secured to the ballot box with locks that can only be unsecured by an agent of the state.

Also, some statistical analysis: Trump took almost exactly the same percentage of the vote he did in 2016, like 0.3% less, while receiving about 50k more votes. All 77 counties went red. Having voted in Oklahoma, I can also say with some confidence that poll watchers are out in force, and the likelihood of something like this being physically possible is very, very low. I personally smell bullshit, although I will personally drive to the fucking church this weekend and ask them if it would make anyone sleep better.

Edit: I'm sure election fraud could/did happen in other states, but not in Oklahoma.
Does this also apply to postal ballots?

Do I think that some random shitlib with TDS was ripping up Trump ballots and dumping them in the trash even in Oklahoma? Sure I do.
 
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Does this also apply to postal ballots?

Do I think that some random shitlib with TDS was ripping up Trump ballots and dumping them in the trash even in Oklahoma? Sure I do.
The mail-in ballots are the most suspicious imho. I expect a higher turnout of dem than rep there but the current stats from mail-in really take the fucking piss, especially how you have postal workers bragging about throwing Trump ballots in the trash.
Just because in the campaign he encouraged voting in person it doesn't mean that people went and did that, it's quite fallacious to assume that especially with the current lockdowns and measures.
Also the US postal service has endorsed Biden which doesn't make them bipartisan if you count in conjecture my two previous statements, which means they have a vested interested in this and makes them quite suspicious if you put everything together.
 
Does this also apply to postal ballots?

Do I think that some random shitlib with TDS was ripping up Trump ballots and dumping them in the trash even in Oklahoma? Sure I do.
I'm less familiar with the counting process in mail ins, but I can tell you that the mail in ballots are the same counterfeit resistant paper as the day of ballots. They are not white, thin printer paper like what is in the video.
 
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not letting a suspect speak with his or her lawyer after it was requested, long interrogations without allowing the suspect a break, etc.
From my understanding he was not allowed to have a lawyer during and the interrogation was 2-4 hours long. Honestly, until that audio is released I got nothing on this. Im curious as to whether its audio only or video, as well as whether or not the agents themselves were aware that they were being recorded, or whether or not it was legal to do so. I believe it is almost always legal for citizens to record police though so that might be a moot concern.
 
I'm less familiar with the counting process in mail ins, but I can tell you that the mail in ballots are the same counterfeit resistant paper as the day of ballots. They are not white, thin printer paper like what is in the video.



Looks the same to me

From my understanding he was not allowed to have a lawyer during and the interrogation was 2-4 hours long. Honestly, until that audio is released I got nothing on this. Im curious as to whether its audio only or video, as well as whether or not the agents themselves were aware that they were being recorded, or whether or not it was legal to do so. I believe it is almost always legal for citizens to record police though so that might be a moot concern.
PV have promised to release the entire recording with no edits.

O'Keefe has outright said the WP story is complete BS, so I guess we'll find out soon enough.
 
Crosspost from fraud thread.
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To add a bit more content in case someone else has posted it, I went back and had a look at the data on the 2008 and 2012 elections, available here: https://www.philadelphiavotes.com/en/resources-a-data/archived-data-sets

According to this data, in 2012 Obama received 165 votes. In 2008, 186 (McCain got 72).
 
PV have promised to release the entire recording with no edits.

O'Keefe has outright said the WP story is complete BS, so I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Veritas has a decent track record with stuff like this. I dont trust any media 100% but I have at least a solid 75% trust in veritas and a solid 65% in tucker. 80% tim pool. Everything else is sub 50. We will see.
 
The mail-in ballots are the most suspicious imho. I expect a higher turnout of dem than rep there but the current stats from mail-in really take the fucking piss, especially how you have postal workers bragging about throwing Trump ballots in the trash.
Just because in the campaign he encouraged voting in person it doesn't mean that people went and did that, it's quite fallacious to assume that especially with the current lockdowns and measures.
Also the US postal service has endorsed Biden which doesn't make them bipartisan if you count in conjecture my two previous statements, which means they have a vested interested in this and makes them quite suspicious if you put everything together.
Considering that Republicans are the ones that passed the 2006 bill that bankrupted the USPS, I can't really blame it for siding with the Democrats. Frankly though, the USPS should be a non-political entity, and it sucks that even the damn post office is partisan. I'm so tired of partisanship and anti-partisanship and all the autism that comes with it.

Anyway, there are several states that have been doing all-mail voting for years with no issues. I feel like if voting was connected to some kind of mass-fraud or was fraud-prone, we would have heard about it happening by now in the states that have had it for decades. Oregon for instance has done it since 1998. Utah also has majority mail-in, and it's voted Republican for all the elections since mail-in was implemented. I really think that those of you who rail against mail voting should do some actual reading on non-partisan websites about it.
 

In Georgia 96K voted for Biden but didn't vote for anyone else down ticket

Now this could be never Trumpers voting Biden but not voting D for Congress, except...

Why didn't they vote Biden and then for Republicans down ticket?

Why is this pattern of out sized Biden only voting happening only in swing states?

Another log to add to the fire

Considering that Republicans are the ones that passed the 2006 bill that bankrupted the USPS, I can't really blame it for siding with the Democrats. Frankly though, the USPS should be a non-political entity, and it sucks that even the damn post office is partisan. I'm so tired of partisanship and anti-partisanship and all the autism that comes with it.

Anyway, there are several states that have been doing all-mail voting for years with no issues. I feel like if voting was connected to some kind of mass-fraud or was fraud-prone, we would have heard about it happening by now in the states that have had it for decades. Oregon for instance has done it since 1998. Utah also has majority mail-in, and it's voted Republican for all the elections since mail-in was implemented. I really think that those of you who rail against mail voting should do some actual reading on non-partisan websites about it.
The mail in voting organized as a response to Covid is very different to traditional absentee ballots. We're talking mass mail outs, unguarded drop boxes, legal ballot harvesting., zero chain of custody Let's be real, mail in balloting was rushed through with minimal safe guards by design. The Dems were worried about turnout given they' used the coof to scare the shit out of their base. That btw is the generous interpretation. Even if we discount a massive top down fraud scheme, which I don't, it's easy to understand how a system with so few safeguards could be undermined at a time where a significant percentage of the population believe that the sitting President is literally Hitler and any action they take to stop him is justified. It's 100% certain that there was significant fuckery going on with the vote count among Dem election workers in blue districts suffering severe TDS.
 
Late, but people really are overlooking this. I wouldn't really call it disgust, though. More just weariness if anything.

I brought this up in the other election thread, but a good chunk of Americans were probably just sick of all the drama Trump's entire existence causes. That's not his fault, but it is what it is.

They don't care if Biden is a dementia-addled, bumbling, crying old man that's being used as little more than a Trojan horse for Kamala. Hell, I don't even think they're even aware of that last obvious part. They were just sick of Trump, and all the noise that comes with him.

Combine all of that with his poor handling of Covid, and the riots, and it becomes a bit more understandable why he lost so many voters.
He also promised the rust belt that they'd keep their jobs if he won. He lied, and thus they are voting against him now. It's really not that hard to see such a swing in states that were affected by losing jobs recently


In Georgia 96K voted for Biden but didn't vote for anyone else down ticket

Now this could be never Trumpers voting Biden but not voting D for Congress, except...

Why didn't they vote Biden and then for Republicans down ticket?

Why is this pattern of out sized Biden only voting happening only in swing states?

Another log to add to the fire
If the Democrats were gonna steal the election, why didn't they steal the senate seats, too? Your logic is seriously retarded
 
Everyone who isn't a Trump simp is laughing there asses off at the cope of you tards. It's glorious.
Well cuck hogan said we are Trump simps that are coping.

It must be true!

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He also promised the rust belt that they'd keep their jobs if he won. He lied, and thus they are voting against him now. It's really not that hard to see such a swing in states that were affected by losing jobs recently

Humm, I wonder why 2020 had such a record number of unemployment...its almost like there was an overblown-by-the-media virus...one that Trump-boi got and recovered fine and always wanted to end the lockdowns as soon as possible to focus on recovering the economy and the job market...

And Sleepy Joe's "moar masks" attitude surely will be healthy for said job market, huh?

Will you stop making a jackass of yourself already? No one is buying it
 
Well cuck hogan said we are Trump simps that are coping.

It must be true!



Humm, I wonder why 2020 had such a record number of unemployment...its almost like there was an overblown-by-the-media virus...one that Trump-boi got and recovered fine and always wanted to end the lockdowns as soon as possible to focus on recovering the economy and the job market...

And Sleepy Joe's "moar masks" attitude surely will be healthy for said job market, huh?

Will you stop making a jackass of yourself already? No one is buying it
You sure seem to be coping hard with the "MAH VOTING FRAUD" bs.

Sure, Trump wasn't at fault about the virus, but he screwed the pooch handling it. Anyone who isn't simping for him realizes that he fucked up bad.
But even without the virus, Michigan and PA lost a ton of manufacturing jobs under Trump, even after he promised they wouldn't. Those same voters now voted against him. It's not a hard concept.
 
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