Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Foghot]

yo where's Jose I need his predictions on what happens after the election

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Come on, @BagO'Dicks, I'm just dying to hear your thoughts on a "post-2020 Election" America. Did you vote Biden, I wonder? He likes 'em young, too, so it seems like he'd be your guy.

 

[AnOminous]

Where's my cotton you nigger? I ordered you to pick me some cotton hours ago. Do you want to be whipped again?

 

[MooseGump]

He's only checking the election thread too, he keeps rating my posts only in that thread even though he actually posted to "debate" him here

He can't even do his own thread right

 

[SIGSEGV]

Do you want to be whipped again?

He'd probably enjoy it.
Source: this thread.

 

[Balanced Boomer]

Someone on the 2020 Election thread said this would be an entertaining read. They weren't lying. I dunno how far I can get though. Only 16 pages in and my nuts have receded so far into my pelvis that I think my rectum just prolapsed.

 

[Stardust]

@BoxerShorts47, why are you hiding? Are you trying to emulate your white hero, Donald Trump?

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

@BoxerShorts47, why are you hiding? Are you trying to emulate your white hero, Donald Trump?

He's in the election thread daring anyone to come here, yet as you can see, he's a no-show.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Someone on the 2020 Election thread said this would be an entertaining read. They weren't lying. I dunno how far I can get though. Only 16 pages in and my nuts have receded so far into my pelvis that I think my rectum just prolapsed.

For the record until 100+ this thread isn't that exciting imo, when he starts yammering on about how fucking 10-14 year olds as soon as they develop breasts is perfectly okay that is when it reaches the worthwhile content and it mostly keeps going until around the mid 300s~. My favorite is how an Amazon page for Clorox became his undoing.

 

[Stardust]

My favorite is how an Amazon page for Clorox became his undoing.

How ironic, that Boxy sought whitening, yet whitening ruined him.

Though, really, Boxy's birth was his undoing.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Boxy trying to recapture the glory days by reading posts from a couple weeks ago. By the way thanks for letting me know you lust for budding breasts you weirdo

 

[Nein Inch Nales]

A rare degenerate by the name of @BoxerShorts47, is currently being an autist in the Quarter pounder thread:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/jeremy...sleeved-media-midwestly.48959/page-185#post-7

 

[BoxerShorts47]

That's not a fallacy, you retard. Also, for hopefully the last time: YOU DID NOT POST THE STUDY, YOU POSTED A MEDIA ARTICLE ABOUT ONE.
Now that you have finally posted a study, I have some observations: Have you read the aggregate source material? If you had at least glanced at it, you'd have realised that the study you posted primarily deals with the effects of ethnic density on the minority ethnic groups, right? The correlation between ethnic diversity and suicide is lowest, by some margin, amongst the white community.

Find the study yourself. I gave you the name.
The fact that suicide and diversity are linked is already a problem.
The Putnam study too that shows diversity lowers trust.

"rightly policies" You pants-shitting retard.
So, you appear to think that an open, unguarded door is exactly the same as an open door with a guard in front of it? Openly carry a firearm into a high-end jewellers and see how that theory pans out. You assume that no measure or quotas apply in a meritocratic immigration policy? That's staggeringly naive, even for you.
Do I value white neighbourhoods? No. I value neighbourhoods based on community and compatibility. They might be exclusively white but it's by no means strictly necessary, that's retarded. Proximate but no panatella, Boxcar.

Exactly you're a liberal and you want white genocide. The total extermination of all white neighborhoods, nations and people through diversity and race mixing. Whether it's legal or illegal immigration, the end result is white genocide.

Conflict and division are stoked by a media base with an interest in doing so and the consequences are allowed to escalate by indifferent governments and hamstrung/redtaped LEOs, regardless of their political stance. A freer hand for the lawkeepers and a government less secure in their gravy trains would keep conflict and division to the nominal levels found amongst monoculture societies.

Dumb Twat.

https://youtu.be/o-_WXXVye3Y?t=255

He complains about being the only black person in the room. Not even "racism" or "discrimination." Being a foreigner is mentally painful.
Diversity is never going to work and even nations that race-mixed like India still have split between higher Aryian/Iranian vs Dravidian content people.

@BoxerShorts47 Seen Cuties? I wanna know your thoughts.

I haven't seen it but I think they'll normalize pedo without an ideological change.
The same disgusts we have toward hebephilia, used to apply toward women working a job instead of start a family in their 20s. Or Teenagers having casual sex (aka Free Love). Or Homosexuality. Or Diversity.
With enough propaganda and "community guidelines" they can desensitize and normalize anything.

I'll give you a run down that I compiled earlier, with updated information. At best, Boxy will ignore you or cherry pick. At worst, he will bombard you with misspelled autism. Here:

BoxerShorts47 is in his near-30s, unemployed, lives with his mom, and collects welfare. Refuses to find a job, unless it is CEO-level and given to him.

Hitler was in his 30s in the 1920s. Remember that.

He believes Sailor Moon is degenerate, but has yet to share his favorite Sailor Scout/Senshi.

Sailor Moon is 100% Degenerate. Beyond the Lesbian Senshi, the entire show is gender inversion. Tuxedo mask is soft and delicate. Sailor Senshi are tough. Absolutely disgusting. 2nd Wave Feminism normalizes transgenderism.
Another show which has similar problems is Powerpuff Girls.
Shows like these marginalize feminism and cause women like yourself to act like men.

He is a white nationalist that supports global segregation and national ethnostates. Boxy is very, VERY not-white though.

segregation = borders

He claims to be politically right, but actually falls into authoritarian left. Fails to see this, even though he referenced a chart-test confirming just that.

I say that I am socially conservative and fiscally liberal to gen x and boomers.
also authoritarian and fascists are just slurs for leadership.
This mentality, demonizing leadership, creates ANTIFA anarcho-communists.

He states a devotion to the red-pilled ways of MGTOW, but wants to go further than even it's most extreme members and participants.

I'm moving the overton window.

He has a Twitter dedicated to crotch shots of Filipino men, and was dumb enough to use the same username here.

fake pics.

He wants to remove age of consent. Originally, 14 was his go-to age, but this keeps getting lower. Fails to acknowledge what many have said, if you lower the age of consent, it will be taken advantage of to go lower. He says this will not happen, but he is doing exactly that.

1. Puts women on a path to marriage by high school. With age of consent at 16/18, girls are groomed to have worthless casual sex in HS and causes a butterfly effect makes them not waifu material.
2. Society uses age of consent as a proxy for maturity. With 16 or 18, people treat high school teenagers as kids rather than young adults, stunts their maturity.
3. Allows more marriageable relationships. 15f+19m = 100% more. People will say this allows 35 yr old to date a 14 yr old, True but that won't be common and is that really much different from 35+18?
Bonus. I am tired of late 10s or 20 somethings being accused of having pedophilia because they have sexts from a high age women. Clearly not what people mean by pedophilia e.g. loli.

He wants to eliminate the Declaration of Indepence and U.S. Constitution, replacing them with his manifesto. Fails to understand most right-wing individuals would oppose this, especially coming from a foreign-blooded individual. The left-wing's more extreme followers are likely to support this,

Cuckservatives tried worshipping the consultation for the last 60 years. It didn't help them win the culture war. If a document doesn't work, people lose faith. No one cares about muh constitution anymore.

but he insists all left-wing individuals to be imprisoned for slave labor.

Based.

He wants to "own the libs", but by staying as a mixed-race person this only supports the left. Boxy admits he himself must be deported to his countries of origin, which are either Latin America, the Balkans, the Philippines, or the Middle East (Israel, mostly).

I reserve the right to deport myself but I gotta crush the shitlibs first.

He wants the English language purged of all non-English words, especially Latin and French. Fails to understand English is no longer English without these. Furthermore, he believes Liberals, particularly feminist Liberals, hijacked the English language centuries ago to invent words like "underage" and "racism". Despite this, he still uses modern English to type, and will be using it for his manifesto.

Agreed,

IQ tests are the be all, end all for him. He proclaims possessing a 145 IQ himself, but has shown no proof. Some Kiwis have outscored him, with proof, but Boxy accepts no IQ test but his own. Fails to share his own version of the test, or acknowledge the hypocrisy of dismissing other IQ tests except his, even when using the same test he simultaneously dismissed to justify his IQ.

Proof is in the pudding. I'm a genius. You'll see.

Anyone below 145 IQ is to be deported to prison or labor camps.

I've never said that but that's super based. You're getting really red-pilled. Soon you'll be fashwife material.

He wants to deport all non-whites to their country of origin, no exceptions. Half-whites can stay, but must accept second class status. Only fully white men can lead businesses and govern through politics.

Yes. I think this is fair.

White women must marry in their preteens, breed constantly with only white men, and cater and serve their husbands.

Not marry but be put on a path towards marriage rather than whoredom like the path on which you were put.

Having children is how you should receive any voting rights, regardless of the parental quality. Furthermore, voting is pointless unless it aligns with his beliefs, as Boxy insists upon being a dictator. Fails to understand why this would discourage birthing or likelihood to vote.

Not the only requirement but yes you need skin in the game. No kids = no investment into your nation's future.

The kicker? Boxy is Jewish, Filipino, Slavic, some sort of Hispanic, and Bosnian, by his own words and admittance. He benefits no way from this, and is cucking himself.

lies.

Edit: Added a little more.

If Boxy negrates this, even he is confirming how retarded he is. This is all his words, no one else's.

 

[Stardust]

Boxy, you are comparing women working to fucking kids. You are an idiot. Also, why does your mother work when, according to you, a woman's place is the home being bred as she cooks and cleans?

Tell your mom to stop being a libtard; or are you scared of losing the Internet her pay checks provide? What a sell-out!

 

[BoxerShorts47]

@BoxerShorts47
I have known three or possibly four 160+ IQ individuals in my life. When conversing with someone, it is usually easy to tell if the person you are talking with is one standard deviation (15 pts) off from your IQ. If you continually talk over someone's head, you likely have at least 15 pts higher IQ than them. If someone continually talks over your head, then they likely have 15 pts or higher IQ score than you. From my experiences with those 160+ IQ individuals, everything I said to them they would absorb effortlessly without being bored, and everything they said I would have to concentrate strongly to keep up with. My IQ score as 145.

I too coasted through HS with little effort despite being in advanced/honors classes and received A's. I attended a great technical university (back in the early 90s as affirmative action was beginning to ramp up in earnest) for engineering and was caught a bit flat-footed sometimes as it required real efforts to get through (and the beer didn't help). After a few detours and gaining a bit of maturity, I completed my engineering degree and have been working the trade for 25 years. You typically need an IQ in the 120-130 range to be successful as an engineer or doctor. Being a standard deviation above that range, I can tell you that I run circles around my peers.

I didn't coast through high school. I was bored from all the busy work and had video game addiction.

So, for a 160+ IQ, being a doctor, lawyer, or engineer may be beneath your intellect. In hindsight, I should have strove to be a mathematician, physicist, or research scientist to better exploit my natural talents.

100% correct.
If you're actually smart than want to create new information, find new discoveries rather than memorize the information other people discovered.
BTW before I returned to politics, I completed Carl Jung's psychological types and discovered the definition of morality.

As a father with a high IQ wife with a bunch of smart kids, I can tell you that although the public education system makes some efforts to keep smarter kids engaged and challenged, they are certainly falling short. Comparing my experiences as a kid with those I see with my own kids, schools providing sufficient attention to high IQ kids has diminished a bit. My wife and I challenge our kids with physical and intellectual activities to keep them engaged. I agree with you that the mid-wits in charge of the education systems don't really know how to best cultivate geniuses. The nice thing about being a genius today, is that you do not have to depend on anyone in particular to gain knowledge and skills? I recently took on carpentry as a hobby.

The primary problem with public school is not educational quality. School is child abusive. You're torturing students by forcing them to sit through boring lectures, teaching them to please their teachers and not set life goals. Compulsory education creates teenager syndrome: teenager mentality is actually a mental health illness created by learned helpless and institutionalization. People "finding themselves" post universities is them curing themselves of teenager syndrome. It was a mistake to normalize teenager during the boomer era as a 3rd life phase rather than classify it as a mental health condition. And yes I'm the first person to discover that teenager is a mental health illness; HIGH IQ.

Despite living in 98%-white semi-rural conservative county in the deep south, leftest propaganda does occasionally come home with my kids from school. My wife and I are quick to rectify our children's understanding and attitudes, and to keep our beliefs secret, as people are recording everything these days.

Dumb.
1. Kids adapt to their culture over their parents
2. Kids need to interact with other kids (or eventually adults) who have been infected by liberal degeneracy
You need to take control of your culture or you'll become a refugee in your own nation.
Don't protect the liberal's rights. Put them in fema death camps or they'll destroy your culture.

If you are fortunate to having been born with a 160+ IQ (as your stated percentile would indicate), then you have the gifts to accomplish virtually anything you heart desires. I have heard it said "Geniuses make their own rules." If you are a bored and unenthusiastic genius, then take-up a challenge and excel at it. Wrap a runway-model girlfriend around your finger (I knew a genius who did that), built a web site, invent something, start a genius "mad scientist" group, or do it all simultaneously. Slipping into a hell of degeneracy, likely so you can relate more easily with others, is easy to do--I've been there and done that. Pick a goal, or a dozen, and complete them. Pat yourself on the back or reward yourself with each completed goal. Then, in a few years look back on history that is now, and evaluate which is the better life to live. Do this, and I'll think you will want to thank me later.

IQ becomes worthless past 145, I said IQ has limitations a long time ago but I never expanded. One major problem with IQ is that it's GENERIC. But actual accomplishments in life are SPECIFIC. Einstein was a great physicist not mathematician. High IQ is enough to be above average but it's not enough to become a genius. My intelligence is specific to politics, morality and rhetoric. I can't become a great computer scientist or particle physicist. I'm in the right place.

Boxy, you are comparing women working to fucking kids. You are an idiot. Also, why does your mother work when, according to you, a woman's place is the home being bred as she cooks and cleans?

Tell your mom to stop being a libtard; or are you scared of losing the Internet her pay checks provide? What a sell-out!

I told her that and she agreed with me. She didn't realize how feminized she was and said she wish she spent more time raising her kids.
If we didn't have equal pay than the man could earn 2x, 3x, 4x a women, be the breadwinner and all the women to be the full time mother aka stay at home mom
This is why I don't support equal pay for equal pay.

I told her that and she agreed with me. She didn't realize how feminized she was and said she wish she spent more time raising her kids.
If we didn't have equal pay than the man could earn 2x, 3x, 4x a women, be the breadwinner and all the women to be the full time mother aka stay at home mom
This is why I don't support equal pay for equal pay.

Before I forget and since I cannot edit double post.
Feminism denies female value.
No value of mothers, women should be working rather than raising kids.
I think Stefan Molyneux said that a reason so many people today are attention seeking whores is because they didn't get enough love and attention from their mothers since they were working.
I think he is right.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Before I forget and since I cannot edit double post.
Feminism denies female value.
No value of mothers, women should be working rather than raising kids.
I think Stefan Molyneux said that a reason so many people today are attention seeking whores is because they didn't get enough love and attention from their mothers since they were working.
I think he is right.

Nigga why you quoting and responding to yourself? Just edit your post you low IQ fence tunneler.

 

[Stardust]

I told her that and she agreed with me. She didn't realize how feminized she was and said she wish she spent more time raising her kids.
If we didn't have equal pay than the man could earn 2x, 3x, 4x a women, be the breadwinner and all the women to be the full time mother aka stay at home mom
This is why I don't support equal pay for equal pay.

Her kidS? There's more than 1 of you?

Again, why is SHE working to support you? You're supposed to be the man, right? The bread-winner.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

The only difference between him and your average /pol/ack is that the latter is either a native or fluent English speaker, and thus can say the exact same shit in bigger words and longer sentences.

A lot of similar qualities are there:
-dismissing every possible counter-argument as either bad faith trolling or a bland talking point
-his ways of argumentation literally being the /pol/ack playbook of calling your opposition shills, trannies, and kikes
-the obsession with marketing and analytics because gaming the system is the only way /pol/acks can realistically convert people, as nobody would fall for their retarded bullshit otherwise (also explains all their bullshit about the left not being able to meme, /pol/acks treat memes as propaganda based on Dawkins' definition of "memetic", while everyone else thinks of memes as jokes)
-bragging about using discord, telegram, and gab in order to spam their shit all over the goddamn internet while (presumably) calling anyone to the left of Hitler a tranny Discord troll from ResetERA
-posting sources that they claim to back them up, and when pointed out it actually proves them wrong, maintain that it's obviously a redpilled conclusion that they're too (((bluepilled))) to admit
-claims he wins by default because eventually everyone fucks off somewhere else rather than talk to a brick wall for that long (this always works on a forum that doesn't ban either racism or typing/acting like a fucking retard, even better if there's rarely a trace of your identity, like, say, posting anonymously on 4chan)
-blatant use of sock accounts to either ban-evade or fake consensus (this happens all the time with MDE faggots on reddit that were too pussy to go to /pol/)
-the claims of far-reaching influence in media, finance, and government while simultaneously decrying media, finance, and government as globohomo
-at one point in his spergings he actually mapped out a proper history of the growth of the far right in america (the one that mentioned the recession, Obama's election, OWS and the fallout that eventually resulted in SJWs, gamergate, Trump, Unite The Right, corona, and the protests/riots). Everything he's saying has constantly been mentioned by left-wing media, but since I assume most people here supported gamergate at its peak, we probably dismissed it as sjw shit by that point.

That's the fucking scary part. BoxerShorts' lack of English knowledge means he has to convey complex thoughts into simple words and grammar. This IS the /pol/ack ideology condensed into its simplest form.

memes are propaganda. memes are 4th gen internet warfare. the pen is mightier than the sword and a rare groyper or apu is mightier than both.
yes you win through attrition. other side blocks you. they leave. you normalize your talking points. You're too dumb to see it. That's why I am a genius and you are not.
I haven't consumed a LOT of leftwing media. Any good sources beyond Vaush?

@BoxerShorts47

So hey, genius, I don't know if anyone ever checked you on this since I skipped about two hundred pages of your truly autistic ramblings, but when you originally posted that "no one believed in civil rights in the 1960's" or "gay marriage in the 1990's" it's hard for me to believe that such a big brain such as yourself wasn't being ironic given that the biggest landmark case for civil rights was passed in 1964 giving equal rights to all regardless of race, religion, color, and national origin. Of course that has been expanded to include the disabled, such as yourself and sexual orientation. On that topic, the first state to legalize gay marriage was Hawaii in 1993, and while it was not federally legal, it was not federally blocked, due to DOMA. You learn these things in civics...in high school...in advanced placement. Oopsie.

Finally, genius, why don't you home school? Given your natural tendency to be all things suspicious, I would think you'd want to keep your kids away from the indoctrination of the evils of the public school system. Or is it the case that you and wifey aren't qualified?

Most normies didn't support civil rights in the 60s or gay marriage in the 90s. The elites pushed these policies onto society and normalized them through propaganda and punishment.
Also civil rights is a lie. There is no equality. De facto non protected classes become 2nd class citizens. The entire point of civil rights act is to destroy white cisgendered protesrant spaces. It was an anti WAS act.
high school = propaganda. You sound like a normie, get redilled.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

I told her that and she agreed with me. She didn't realize how feminized she was and said she wish she spent more time raising her kids.
If we didn't have equal pay than the man could earn 2x, 3x, 4x a women, be the breadwinner and all the women to be the full time mother aka stay at home mom
This is why I don't support equal pay for equal pay.

"Of course she agrees with me, I'm telling you she did."

Yeah okay bud, whatever you say. You fake being white for 300 pages of sperging, then you dox your countries' native language through a Amazon page for Clorox like a retard, and finally you even admit that you'd need to leave your own white ethnostate. But now this time I'm supposed to believe your story you fake white nigger? Yeah sure.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I don't know if I'm late on this, but Boxerman was angry that Nick Fuentes couldn't go mainstream, the problem is that radical ideas can never go mainstream in times like these. You cannot show me a stable country which suddenly had an outburst of fascism/communism under some leader like Mosley or, today, Fuentes, and then they won the majority of seats in parliament or whatever. The idea that an extremist party (or a party perceived to be extreme if you think fascism is "natural") can win the majority of seats is already fantasy land type shit.

You may get some "results" using wignat talking points, but unless you're in a depression or have Weimar/Italy levels of political instability people won't act on those ideas. The average person just wants to watch tv and play vidya, they become an extremist when they can't do that anymore.

You may think I'm an accelerationist, but here's the deal, accelerationists think that people care about their freedoms. They don't. If we lived under a totalitarian system where they could still eat cheetos and play vidya, people wouldn't revolt or even feel uncomfortable with their lack of freedoms. The accelerationists think that if we vote in the left and let them take away our freedoms then people would get angry, evidently that is not the case. I'm an accelerationist in the sense that I want the great depression 2.0.

And I will tell you something too, no party has ever achieved total control of a country through state mandated political means. There was always some paramilitary aspect that propelled the party into power. I'm don't in favour of a dictatorship because that's a tyranny and daddy Socrates told me that those were bad

Again fascisms and authorianism are just leadership. 1st step of winning is to not fall into the liberal's reality. You'll never win if you accept their words/ideas.
I go full WN IRL. "I don't want to become a minority ruled by Hispanics."
The number 1 response I get is "b-b-but values."
You need the race realism talking points and other talking points to get past this and you need to debunk racism too but it's not too hard to go full WN IRL.
I don't recommend using most wignat talking points, especially the JQ, you need get people to feel your pain and identify with your grievances. You cannot build a movement on seething hate.

There will be a massive backlash about the SJWs by the end of this decade. The 1970s normalized all the 1960s civil rights. Likewise the liberals need to normalize 2010s social justice in the 2020s. The Civil Rights movement of the 60s caused a massive backlash that resulted in Reagan. So we can predict a similar backlash this decade.
But a backlash without focus is useless. We still need to win the culture war. We need to normalize our ideas (e.g. gay marriage is cultural appropriation and a trojan horse to normalize homosexuality). Right now we're ghettoized, under SPLC and ADL containment. We need to break-out and go mainstream.
As for economic collapse. Social Security will cut in the early 2030s. Fed Balance sheet has grown 7x in the last 10 years, Corporations are using stock buyback to raise their share price. Interest rates are low. A crash is coming. We're Weimar tier.

Nigga why you quoting and responding to yourself? Just edit your post you low IQ fence tunneler.

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"Of course she agrees with me, I'm telling you she did."

Yeah okay bud, whatever you say. You fake being white for 300 pages of sperging, then you dox your countries' native language through a Amazon page for Clorox like a retard, and finally you even admit that you'd need to leave your own white ethnostate. But now this time I'm supposed to believe your story you fake white nigger? Yeah sure.

I was trolling you with the clorox. Holy shit r u dumb.