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DRHaste23 said:
It’s been a tough year for most VAs. Most aren’t willing to risk the small cons due to Covid concerns. Plus actual Anime voice recording doesn’t pay too well and doesn’t give royalties after the fact. Just your per session rate. The money is in con appearances.

Monica has a 5k plus retainer for cons, for example. On the high end, that’s 7-10 recording sessions worth right there.
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Vic has something similar.

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I was there at Super World Con, and Vic's table was pretty much dead, so I assume the $5k was the flat minimum he was contracted for.

In his defense, he was rubbing elbows with actual NFL stars
 
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PorkeyDuck said:
That moodslayer faggot is sperging again about the "threats".
"my acc got suspended bc you dipshits mass false reported my old acc when you couldn't take the L. btw, here you go."
"Haha nope broly extreme you the only one here got they account suspended and you would think you learn by now sad man plus you the only one who put Dj as their profile picture he’s not even that good so why you sucking his D"
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Didn't doomslayer/brolyxtreme also belittle or make fun of someone from ISWV who got raped iirc?
 
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OneHandClapping said:
Vic has something similar.

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I was there at Super World Con, and Vic's table was pretty much dead, so I assume the $5k was the flat minimum he was contracted for.

In his defense, he was rubbing elbows with actual NFL stars
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It depends on the contract. Anime cons and comic cons usually use 2 very different contract styles.

Anime cons will use a retainer which is what you are paid for the weekend and then anything you sell(Merch, autographs, etc) is just on top of that.

Comic Cons will use a system where you are guaranteed a minimum. Lets say they contract you for a minimum of 5k and you make 3k from your booth. The con will make up the 2k difference. If you make over the 5k, then the con pays you nothing, and you were essentially a free guest besides the cost of transportation, food, and lodging. This is part of how comic cons have so many huge names. They don't actually pay the guests unless the guests somehow drastically fail that weekend.

This usually falls in the line between non profit cons and for profit cons. For profit cons tend to do the comic con approach and keep a percentage for themselves. It's minimal risk to the con financially. While non profit cons will pay the retainer and keep nothing off the top for autographs or merch.

This also affects how autographs are usually processed. At non profit cons, a certain number of autographs are free as part of buying a badge. This will be outlined in the autograph policy in the guidebook. These are usually line out the door no matter who the guest is. At for profit cons, it is a pay per autograph and nothing is included in the cost of the badge. Kamehacon was an example of this btw. While it fell under "anime con", they did the comic con approach and were a for profit convention.

There are exceptions to these rules of course, but this is how the majority operate regarding guests and paying them.


In Vic's case, those numbers are most likely higher than his average due to being in the spotlight for both Broly and the case. There was a lot of attention on him due to controversy, and as they say all press is good press. Vic also pushes his CDs and merch significantly heavier than other guests.(I also noticed a comment earlier complaining about con staff not doing their job by not selling his merch, and that is not their job to do. He quite often has the rangers helping with this.)
 
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DRHaste23 said:
Vic also pushes his CDs and merch significantly heavier than other guests.(I also noticed a comment earlier complaining about con staff not doing their job by not selling his merch, and that is not their job to do. He quite often has the rangers helping with this.)
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Vic claimed that a handler assigned by the con is supposed to help at the table. So in his mind that meant selling his merch 🤷

But yes, nowadays he has Rangers helping more.
 
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The downfall of Unlocked is actually kinda sad. The concept and idea behind the app were great. Sadly, the people running the app could never be bothered to make sure that the app was functioning properly. It had technical issues right from the start (e.g. crashes, glitches, excessive battery drainage...). Another shitty thing they did was that they DCMA'd recordings of Vic's streams on youtube. They should've just fixed their app instead, then more people would've actually used it.

The positive things about the app were that it helped the voice actors to connect with their fans without meeting them in person (especially helpful during the coof times). And they allowed Vic on their platform even after all that crap went down last year.

What a waste. But oh well. I'm glad Vic moved on to twitch.
 
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What The Heck Is Going On said:
Didn't doomslayer/brolyxtreme also belittle or make fun of someone from ISWV who got raped iirc?
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Finally found it.
This guy said that the faggot belittled him
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Did a little search and found this from last year.
"What makes things worst is when I told him I wasn't one and told him the reason why then he starts abusing me saying "my story victim shames.....
"......Monica and Jamie story and I'm using my story for clout" like really wtf."
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giraffes on coffee said:
Vic claimed that a handler assigned by the con is supposed to help at the table. So in his mind that meant selling his merch 🤷

But yes, nowadays he has Rangers helping more.
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That isn’t the case at any con for any guest. They may help with directing traffic, but this is a misconception on his part. Con handlers don’t sell your merch for you. He’s had rangers managing this for so many years that I don’t think he really knows who is doing what. This isn’t also a “nowadays”. This is a “for the past 15 years”

Edit: Vic hasn’t been involved in negotiations for the most part until recently. His agent and fan club managed everything for him, so he may not have fully understood what was and wasn’t available for him. But yes. No con will assign a handler to sell your merchandise for you.
 
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DRHaste23 said:
That isn’t the case at any con for any guest. They may help with directing traffic, but this is a misconception on his part. Con handlers don’t sell your merch for you. He’s had rangers managing this for so many years that I don’t think he really knows who is doing what. This isn’t also a “nowadays”. This is a “for the past 15 years”

Edit: Vic hasn’t been involved in negotiations for the most part until recently. His agent and fan club managed everything for him, so he may not have fully understood what was and wasn’t available for him. But yes. No con will assign a handler to sell your merchandise for you.
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well that’s wrong as fuck. i met vic at anime matsuri and had friends on that staff. most of the time the handler handles everything including sales and cash handling. a lot of times cons liked having vic because his club usually took care of the table freeing up staffers.
And have you SEEN how his stuff sells?
you can’t make that up, and his salesgirl could get a rabbis to eat a pulled pork Sandwich.
he comes prepared
 
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Plays With Squirrels said:
well that’s wrong as fuck. i met vic at anime matsuri and had friends on that staff. most of the time the handler handles everything including sales and cash handling. a lot of times cons liked having vic because his club usually took care of the table freeing up staffers.
And have you SEEN how his stuff sells?
you can’t make that up, and his salesgirl could get a rabbis to eat a pulled pork Sandwich.
he comes prepared
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Remember that this last year was an unusual year due to the controversy.

And it really isn’t wrong. If he wants to sell things, he should have someone there to sell it. Con staff are almost all volunteers. They are there to take care of him, not sell his stuff.

edit: Anime Matsuri is also an outlier as far as cons go. They may have also been trying to garner favor with Vic due to the controversy. That isn’t how most cons run things. This is coming from people who have run guest departments for over 10 years, not random attendees or staff.
 
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Toyman99x said:
This list is from the court documents. His lawyer did not clearly state whether or not this was his appearance fee for each show or from the autographs he signed and or both combined. IMHO. I think it is likely both appearance fee and autographs combined.
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I would take a guess that the nice even numbers that are relatively low (e.g. $5000 for BakAnime and Super World Con) are purely appearance fees, while "odd" numbers ($17k for Bubbafest, $37k for KamehaCon) would be sales numbers.
 
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Laundui_or_douchette? said:
I really hope that Ron Toye, Monica and the rest of KickVic support and defend the 234 sworn affidavits by the Trump campaign, as being truthful, because they have asserted that people don’t lie in sworn affidavits.
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Are they sworn affidavits? Because if they're not then they don't count. Just ask @EriMin and Stan
 
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