Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Return of the Freaker]

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/gov-dewine-says-new-restrictions-on-social-gatherings-coming-soon/​

New restrictions on social gatherings in Ohio coming soon​

CORONAVIRUS
by: Jen Steer
Posted: Nov 11, 2020 / 06:45 PM EST / Updated: Nov 11, 2020 / 06:45 PM EST


COLUMBUS, Ohio (WJW)– Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine said a new order placing significant restrictions on social activities is coming soon.

Ohio Gov. DeWine issues updated mask mandate with penalties for business violations

The governor addressed Ohioans Wednesday evening on the coronavirus pandemic, as opposed to his usual news conferences on Tuesday and Thursday.

DeWine reminded residents of health orders issued in April that limit gatherings to no more than 10 people. He said that limit is still in effect, and it applies to public and private events.

“Despite this order, we have seen rampant spread of the virus as a result of banquets, wedding receptions and social gatherings following funerals. We have seen great tragedy associated with such events. It’s not the ceremonies causing the problem. It’s the party afterward,” DeWine said.

The governor said the forthcoming order will require everyone to be seated and masks unless they are actively eating or drinking. The order will also prohibit games and dancing. He said congregate areas can no longer be open.

Gov. DeWine says state to consider closing bars, restaurants if trends continue

Also during his address, DeWine said the state will be forced to close bars, restaurants and fitness centers if the COVID-19 trends continue. The issue will be examine in one week.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Secondary schools and colleges typically have 1000+ teenagers from different households mingling together, generally in small classrooms in large groups.

Care to guess which one they kept open?

I tend to think if anything should've remained closed or mostly closed, it's in-person school. Now as much as I hate doing everything online, schools are hotbeds for sickness regardless of COVID.

I mentioned my ma works at a high school, the one where I went, and it's nasty on its best day. Just two years ago their was a flu outbreak where 60% of 7th-12th grade was absent (but they didn't close) and now for COVID they've just entered another 2 week closing period.

It really really sucks but the more numbers that have to get publicly reported, the more ammunition "they" get to shoot with.

 

[Bosmadden]

John Ioannidis is Professor of Epidemiology at Stanford University and is considered the world's foremost expert on infectious disease.

Here's a link to his paper he published last month.

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

Note this has been published on the WHO's website.

From the extract

For people < 70 years old, the infection fatality rate of COVId-19 across 40 locations with available data ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% (median 0.05%); the corrected values were similar.

The coof is less deadly that the seasonal flu. Anyone who says otherwise is a science denier, is contradicting the WHO and should be kicked off social media for spreading misinformation.

So again why are we having lockdowns?

 

[Bender]

I tend to think if anything should've remained closed or mostly closed, it's in-person school. Now as much as I hate doing everything online, schools are hotbeds for sickness regardless of COVID.

I mentioned my ma works at a high school, the one where I went, and it's nasty on its best day. Just two years ago their was a flu outbreak where 60% of 7th-12th grade was absent (but they didn't close) and now for COVID they've just entered another 2 week closing period.

It really really sucks but the more numbers that have to get publicly reported, the more ammunition "they" get to shoot with.

I can see the reasoning in keeping schools open, parents who work all day need their kids looked after and hiring a childminder 5 days a week is expensive. Parents who are working from home can still tend to their kids but not every job allows for that, construction workers can't build a house while sitting at home (unless they're playing with Lego), for example.

Making school attendance optional at the parents' discretion would be my ideal solution; the parents who are working at home can keep their kids at home doing online learning via Zoom or whatever and let parents who need to work leave 13-year-olds+ home unattended while they work for the day. The parents who have to work and can't afford childminding services or have young children can still drop their kids off at schools which would likely have a vastly-reduced student population, lowering the risk of transmission. Sadly the resources just aren't there, we don't have enough teachers to split it up like that.

ETA: You're right about the hotbed for sickness, there was a bug that hit my secondary school pretty hard, a few of my classes were half-empty so a couple of teachers put teaching on hold and played movies or let us dick around on the computers instead of teaching half a class and having to teach the same stuff again when the other half came back.

 

[FatalTater]

I know a slightly overweight 24 year old lady that caught the Coof a couple months ago and she's still got lung problems and coughs a lot. Covid-19 is nasty, but the people in charge of managing how the countries handle it are nastier.

People with school aged kids need to remember that homeschooling is a thing. Laws on it vary by state, but it's legal in all 50.
Homeschool Legal Defense Association has a lot of info on it.

Homeschool Laws By State

Choose your state or territory to get detailed information on how to withdraw from public school, homeschooling requirements including testing & mandatory subjects, plus resources and more.

hslda.org

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

I know a slightly overweight 24 year old lady that caught the Coof a couple months ago and she's still got lung problems and coughs a lot. Covid-19 is nasty, but the people in charge of managing how the countries handle it are nastier.

People with school aged kids need to remember that homeschooling is a thing. Laws on it vary by state, but it's legal in all 50.
Homeschool Legal Defense Association has a lot of info on it.

Homeschool Laws By State

Choose your state or territory to get detailed information on how to withdraw from public school, homeschooling requirements including testing & mandatory subjects, plus resources and more.

hslda.org

You mean there are options besides dumping your kids in a holding center for eight hours a day?

 

[FatalTater]

You mean there are options besides dumping your kids in a holding center for eight hours a day?

IKR? Despite what has become the "normal" way of doing things, there are options.

 

[knobslobbin]

Look what the POS rino fuck governor of AK just sent out as a goddamn emergency alert!

STAY AFRAID! jeesuz christ these twats all need to hang.

 

[Ruin]

The real fun happens in the spring when declining task revenues and enrollments result in public servants and academics being laid off.

Suddenly it will be a "crisis"

 

[Dark Edea]

Got a Democrat governor?

Hope you have continued to stockpile...

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I hate how a "spike in cases" always keeps coronapanic going.

Any end of this insanity in sight yet?

 

[Bakarina]

I hate how a "spike in cases" always keeps coronapanic going.

Any end of this insanity in sight yet?

I hate that the moment people are starting to get back to the way their lives were before covid-19 we get another "spike in cases" and calls for more shut downs begin once again. It's all rather convenient.

That said, this will probably go on until the American populace has been so fucked over that they have no choice but to bend over for socialism/communism

 

[JosephStalin]

I hate that the moment people are starting to get back to the way their lives were before covid-19 we get another "spike in cases" and calls for more shut downs begin once again. It's all rather convenient.

That said, this will probably go on until the American populace has been so fucked over that they have no choice but to bend over for socialism/communism

Or more likely, large-scale civil disobedience and rioting.

Speaking of civil disobedience, I look at this article and laugh. "They" sure as hell won't follow "their" rules, so we don't have to, either. Enjoy your Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's as you please. Fuck "their" rules, and fuck "them" to the max.

Added: As soon as this ChiCom Flu thing started, I looked at the numbers and wasn't scared. Not scared now, either. About 5X more Americans will die this year of cancer and heart problems than the ChiCom Flu. And yes, have been intubated in an ICU, so I know very well what that's like.

Everything turned political after two weeks. "They" lost all credibility when they allowed "protesters" to "protest" sans masks and distancing, while persecuting those who only want to go to church and worship.

Said this before, saying it again. The economic damage wreaked by these unwarranted house arrests will be fixed much quicker and easier than the societal damage. Don't believe the destroyed credibility of and trust in government will ever be totally repaired, and what repair can be made will take many years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/officials-issue-a-blunt-message-for-thanksgiving-keep-your-gathering-small-and-don-t-travel/ar-BB1aXr5z?li=BBorjTa&ocid=mailsignout

https://archive.vn/8Vcx7

 

[ToroidalBoat]

we get another "spike in cases"

Around here they use that to keep muzzle mandates and ongoing "temporary" closure of the library and community center going.

Just getting rid of the muzzle mandates would be a huge step towards going back to the "old normal" - before assholes decided to turn the coof into this insane and endless "New Normal".

 

[Cycleye]

I hate how a "spike in cases" always keeps coronapanic going.

Any end of this insanity in sight yet?

This is definitely the most tiresome headline. Sometimes it does say that testing has increased, or it can be cross referenced but to have it as THE headline means absolutely fuck all and is just there to keep the panic and stress going. I know people who are now obsessed with the daily case numbers and such is their desperation to be counted as being with covid they start talking about getting tested whenever they sneeze.
I am waiting to hear women say, "i am with covid" or "jag är covid" as they would when being happy and fatheaded of being pregnant. Fucking phrases like 'big reset' and 'follow the science' are cropping up in conversation, more often, even about things that are absolutely not about the virus. I haven't heard or seen 'build back better' much but there is still time. Maybe it just sounds too fucking stupid and not enough people can associate with building anything with their own hands, these days.

Part of me thinks they are pathetic and part of me is really sad because a good number of them, before the constant barrage of poor journalism/calculated propaganda, were not as they are now. It is frightening to see people change so bloody much. Sometimes i think I would deal better with the loss, if they died in car crash, than have to watch how they are now. I am officially scared of one of them, such is the change.
I dunno; some might come back, but the 'long covid' I can imagine happening, to alot of people, is not any actual, long term, physical ailments , but severe anxiety disorders and previiusly functional and productive people becoming dysfunctional and un-productive. That could be the real cost of all this and hard to measure and quantify.

I guess it van be turned around but in my experience it takes way less time to break someone than it does to un-break them and get them back on track.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

science

I fear the utter insanity that could break loose if they ever invent a coof vaccine - how it could be imposed...

 

[Yeeted Teet]

I hate how a "spike in cases" always keeps coronapanic going.

Any end of this insanity in sight yet?

The end will come when a critical mass of angry people decide to stop even pretending to obey the rules, and/or the media class get upset.

 

[Without A Gout]

When this shit started, I was scared shitless. The stuff coming out of China? The people collapsing in the streets? That's what I thought we were going to get here when this eventually came.

Then it ended up coming. I was originally in support of the lockdowns (temporarily) until people could figure out what was going on. Now they are simply killing off any business that's not a major corporation or backed by big money. They are not only killing jobs, they are technically killing off lives. The virus isn't as severe as I was fearing (although still deadly to those that have complications. It seems to be the thing that pushes them over the edge), but the economic wave is going to be even worse.

You want to know what changed my mind? The fact that people could mass gather in the streets to protest alleged police brutality and it was not only accepted, but embraced by every governmental figure and media outlet.

So why the hell were we told to socially distance and not crowd in public for months on end? Why am I seeing people celebrating in large crowds in major cities across America for Biden's election win? Isn't this going to "propagate the spread", as we were told? Or is the virus political as well?

People wonder why case numbers are rising over the past week or so... I wonder why.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

When this shit started, I was scared shitless.

And others (like myself) have been skeptical of this coronapanic crap from day 1 - especially when compared to the (relative lack of) reaction to the swine and bird flus. I hope this coronapanic insanity helps some to see Current Year "journalism" is crap.

 

[NoReturn]

When this shit started, I was scared shitless. The stuff coming out of China? The people collapsing in the streets? That's what I thought we were going to get here when this eventually came.

Then it ended up coming. I was originally in support of the lockdowns (temporarily) until people could figure out what was going on. Now they are simply killing off any business that's not a major corporation or backed by big money. They are not only killing jobs, they are technically killing off lives. The virus isn't as severe as I was fearing (although still deadly to those that have complications. It seems to be the thing that pushes them over the edge), but the economic wave is going to be even worse.

You want to know what changed my mind? The fact that people could mass gather in the streets to protest alleged police brutality and it was not only accepted, but embraced by every governmental figure and media outlet.

So why the hell were we told to socially distance and not crowd in public for months on end? Why am I seeing people celebrating in large crowds in major cities across America for Biden's election win? Isn't this going to "propagate the spread", as we were told? Or is the virus political as well?

People wonder why case numbers are rising over the past week or so... I wonder why.

I've been seeing them try to blame it on Halloween. Like, really? Halloween. Not the massive riots and marches and street closures and political rallies. Halloween.