Business How Ticketmaster Plans to Check Your Vaccine Status for Concerts - Yeah, this will totally end well for everyone involved

How Ticketmaster Plans to Check Your Vaccine Status for Concerts: Exclusive​

By Dave Brooks
11/11/2020


Monday's news that pharmaceutical company Pfizer's early results on a new COVID-19 vaccine showed a 90% efficacy rate on an initial clinical trial have given concert professionals hope that the business can start mounting a return in 2021. As part of that preparation, Ticketmaster has been working on a framework for post-pandemic fan safety that uses smart phones to verify fans' vaccination status or whether they've tested negative for the coronavirus within a 24 to 72 hour window.

Many details of the plan, which is still in development phase, will rely on three separate components -- the Ticketmaster digital ticket app, third party health information companies like CLEAR Health Pass or IBM's Digital Health Pass and testing and vaccine distribution providers like Labcorp and the CVS Minute Clinic.

Here's how it would work, if approved: After purchasing a ticket for a concert, fans would need to verify that they have already been vaccinated (which would provide approximately one year of COVID-19 protection) or test negative for coronavirus approximately 24 to 72 hours prior to the concert. The length of coverage a test would provide would be governed by regional health authorities -- if attendees of a Friday night concert had to be tested 48 hours in advance, most could start the testing process the day before the event. If it was a 24-hour window, most people would likely be tested the same day of the event at a lab or a health clinic.

Once the test was complete, the fan would instruct the lab to deliver the results to their health pass company, like CLEAR or IBM. If the tests were negative, or the fan was vaccinated, the health pass company would verify the attendee's COVID-19 status to Ticketmaster, which would then issue the fan the credentials needed to access the event. If a fan tested positive or didn't take a test to verify their status, they would not be granted access to the event. There are still many details to work out, but the goal of the program is for fans to take care of vaccines and testing prior to the concert and not show up hoping to be tested onsite.

Ticketmaster would not store or have access to fans' medical records and would only receive verification of whether a fan is cleared to attend an event on a given date. Different states will have different requirements. The main role of companies like health pass companies will be to collect data from testing and medical providers and deliver status updates to partner companies in a secure, encrypted way that complies with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA).

To date, the Food and Drug Administration has not approved any third-party companies to provide the complex technology needed to deliver real-time vaccination results, but Ticketmaster president Mark Yovich expects the demand for digital screening services -- which will be needed for airline travel, employment verification and theme park entry -- will attract a new wave of investors and entrepreneurs to fuel the growth of a new COVID-19 technology sector.

"We’re already seeing many third-party health care providers prepare to handle the vetting -- whether that is getting a vaccine, taking a test, or other methods of review and approval - which could then be linked via a digital ticket so everyone entering the event is verified," Yovich tells Billboard. "Ticketmaster’s goal is to provide enough flexibility and options that venues and fans have multiple paths to return to events, and is working to create integrations to our API and leading digital ticketing technology as we will look to tap into the top solutions based on what’s green-lit by officials and desired by clients."

For Ticketmaster, two new technologies at the companies will help its clients scale the program. The first is digital ticketing that's linked to a fan’s identity, eliminates paper tickets and can be restricted from being transferred or resold. Ticketmaster also plans to deploy its new SmartEvent system, which helps event organizers and fans manage social distancing, delayed entry and provide possible opportunities for contact tracing. Many of the safety parameters will be set by regional health officials and event organizers. Event organizers also have the ability to set their own prevention protocols, like sanitation, mask compliance and social distancing.

Because Ticketmaster tickets the vast majority of sports leagues in the United States, as well as concert venues and Live Nation owned properties, the implementation of their COVID-19 plan will be an important milestone for the live entertainment industry.

“In order for live events to return, technology and science are going to play huge roles in establishing integrated protocols so that fans, artists, and employees feel safe returning to venues," says Marianne Herman, co-founder and principal reBUILD20, which focuses on helping entertainment and live events companies develop COVID-19 strategies. "Integrating ticketing platforms with the guests verified testing results is one key way to reimagine how we’re going to get fans back to live events. The experience of attending live events will look completely different, but innovation married with consistent implementation will provide a framework to get the live sports and event industry back to work.”

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Yeah, good luck enforcing any of this. I'm sure demanding any kind of medical information is going to go over real well with customers
 
How is it legal to be required to share health information with third party non-health providers to undertake activities of daily living?
You’re voluntarily giving them access to take part in private events.
But you’d have to be pretty fucktarded to give Ticketmaster of all companies your health info just to see some terrible band play.
 
How is it legal to be required to share health information with third party non-health providers to undertake activities of daily living?

To be honest, I have no idea. Per HIPAA, this information could not legally be shared with them without you giving permission, so they couldn't just get it out of nowhere. However, whether or not a non-health-related company can legally refuse to serve you unless you provide them with your health information, I don't know.
 
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Why is it that that the whitest and most Jewish, highly educated and affluent neighbourhoods have the highest rates of vaccine exemptions for their own children? Could it be that they know something most people don't? It's fashionable to shit all over "anti-vaxxers" and accuse them of being ignorant, selfish and insane, but I think they're perfectly right to be suspicious.

Vaccines were not even correlated with the reduction of common killer infectious diseases we're all led to believe they were, not even in the case of Polio:
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Vaccines were tagged on at the tail end of the declines, yet for some reason they get credit for causing them in the first place. Now why would that be?🤔
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/21/coronavirus-brings-light-to-the-35-billion-vaccine-market.html
If the foundation for current shots is this questionable I sure as hell am not going to get some rushed, experimental vaccine. Anyone who eagerly lines up for this shit is fucking retarded.
 
So many companies are going to get sued for HIPPA violations if mandatory vaccination documentation is required for basic transactions.

Schools get away with it due to kids and close quarters. Private companies are opening themselves to a whole lot of liability if any medical records leak.
 
Why is it that that the whitest and most Jewish, highly educated and affluent neighbourhoods have the highest rates of vaccine exemptions for their own children? Could it be that they know something most people don't? It's fashionable to shit all over "anti-vaxxers" and accuse them of being ignorant, selfish and insane, but I think they're perfectly right to be suspicious.

Vaccines were not even correlated with the reduction of common killer infectious diseases we're all led to believe they were, not even in the case of Polio:
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Vaccines were tagged on at the tail end of the declines, yet for some reason they get credit for causing them in the first place. Now why would that be?🤔
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/21/coronavirus-brings-light-to-the-35-billion-vaccine-market.html
If the foundation for current shots is this questionable I sure as hell am not going to get some rushed, experimental vaccine. Anyone who eagerly lines up for this shit is fucking retarded.
Well Polio most likely results in being sick as fuck with a small amount of cases requiring an iron lung.

Personally, I would take the Polio vaccine as the risk from being on my ass or in an iron lung is greater than the chance of a negative interaction.
 
Vaccines were not even correlated with the reduction of common killer infectious diseases we're all led to believe they were, not even in the case of Polio:
Vaccination is the reason polio is only endemic in two countries today. They didn't suddenly discover sanitation and clean water in India and the heart of Africa and the South American shanty towns in the last 10 years, they vaccinated everybody. They only places that still have endemic wild polio are the places that won't let vaccination teams in because they're butthurt Osama Bin Laden is dead. And the polio death rate isn't important, you can put someone with polio in an iron lung and they'll live years. It's the rate of paralysis that matters.

Vaccination is why smallpox no longer exists. You can play whatever games you want with the y-axis, it went from a positive number to zero after a worldwide vaccination campaign. That wasn't sanitation and clean water either, it's true everywhere in the world.

Vaccination nearly wiped out Hib deaths since the 1980s. Do you really think water supplies and sanitation in US hospitals were so poor in the 1980s that thousands of infants got Hib, then they somehow fixed it coincidentally at the exact time they started vaccinating for it?

If you think clean water and sanitation is what got rid of measles, how do you explain measles outbreaks in the US associated with antivaxers traveling abroad? Did they bring bad water back with them and poison the local supply?

There's countless other examples. Well, they probably could be counted, but I can't be bothered.
 
Can't wait to see celebs on insta promoting the vaccine so their real responsible fans can come see them.
 
If everything wasn't hellworld retarded, we could implement a pseudo anonymous system but that would require actual systems integrations.
 
Ticketmaster has been working on a framework for post-pandemic fan safety that uses smart phones to verify fans' vaccination status or whether they've tested negative for the coronavirus within a 24 to 72 hour window.
So, no concerts for people who don't have or want smartphones, eh?
 
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