2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[AMHOLIO]

I pray we never reach the point where the right wing feel they have to rise up violently. The left doing it already breaks my heart and makes me want to piledrive every fuckhead on my side who wants to do the same. May we not have to reach that point any time soon.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I also noticed YT has stopped slapping the AP CALLS IT FOR JOE bullshit on every video that has a syllable resembling election in the content. Quite the thinker.

Biden allowed himself to be fucked by the media by backstabbing the far left and appointing rich neoliberal and neoconservative fucks. He should have told the assholes in the media to wait till December 15th. He announced all his plans way too early. Now everyone knows what he is going to do.

Looks like Trump can build momentum towards making a case to the state legislatures to grant him the electors.

 

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Something to keep in mind for Left vs. Right wing unrest.

Left Wing unrest is easier to reach, they are almost always discontent but at the same time they are easier to mollify when discontent. You see a lot of looting , burning, but not a lot of coordinated action. More just a loose band, working together towards a generalized goal. So its more common, but less destructive.

Right Wing unrest is... different. The right wing tends to be slow to anger, more happy to be content with grilling and going down to the pub. It doesn't really rise up and protest often, and when it does it tends towards symbolism. But when it boils over, Right Wing unrest is far, far more destructive. The Right Wing tends more towards clear goals, chains of command, and organized action. While slow to anger, once angered it finds a target for its anger and seeks to destroy it as quickly, and efficiently as possible.

Hines suggests the exact opposite. That the left is highly organized -- remember the thousands of people all saying "lol Antifa is an idea not an organization" in lockstep when Trump started mentioning going after them? Or Antifa logistics teams bringing in shields, food trucks... and manufactured ballots. But Righties... successful Righty violence will be lone wolves. Someone snapping and leaving an IED near where Antifa is about to march. Rushing into a Starbucks known to be an Antifa hangout, gunning everyone down and then vanishing. That sort of deal.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Biden allowed himself to be fucked by the media by backstabbing the far left and appointing rich neoliberal and neoconservative fucks. He should have told the assholes in the media to wait till December 15th. He announced all his plans way too early. Now everyone knows what he is going to do.

Looks like Trump can build momentum towards making a case to the state legislatures to grant him the electors.

The assumption that Joe knows the date is very generous of you.

I pray we never reach the point where the right wing feel they have to rise up violently. The left doing it already breaks my heart and makes me want to piledrive every fuckhead on my side who wants to do the same. May we not have to reach that point any time soon.

What did you think would happen if you called them Nazis and bigots every day for four years and then started physically attacking them? Threatening to put them on lists...

I just have to wonder what the fuck you thought would happen? Did you think you could just keep shitting on them and kicking them and gaslighting them forever?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Hines suggests the exact opposite. That the left is highly organized -- remember the thousands of people all saying "lol Antifa is an idea not an organization" in lockstep when Trump started mentioning going after them? Or Antifa logistics teams bringing in shields, food trucks... and manufactured ballots. But Righties... successful Righty violence will be lone wolves. Someone snapping and leaving an IED near where Antifa is about to march. Rushing into a Starbucks known to be an Antifa hangout, gunning everyone down and then vanishing. That sort of deal.

This is 2020 clownworld, everything has changed now.

 

[DeadFish]

Something to keep in mind for Left vs. Right wing unrest.

Left Wing unrest is easier to reach, they are almost always discontent but at the same time they are easier to mollify when discontent. You see a lot of looting , burning, but not a lot of coordinated action. More just a loose band, working together towards a generalized goal. So its more common, but less destructive.

Right Wing unrest is... different. The right wing tends to be slow to anger, more happy to be content with grilling and going down to the pub. It doesn't really rise up and protest often, and when it does it tends towards symbolism. But when it boils over, Right Wing unrest is far, far more destructive. The Right Wing tends more towards clear goals, chains of command, and organized action. While slow to anger, once angered it finds a target for its anger and seeks to destroy it as quickly, and efficiently as possible.

The left sees violence as a tool to pressure people. It dials it up and down depending on the situation.

The right sees violence as a last resort. Kinda like how a mama bear and her cubs might act if trapped in a corner. Its not a tool for change but a means to eliminate threats to their survival. Its like a switch. Once its flipped on it wont stop until the threat is completely eliminated.

Also realize some of these folks might be ex legionnaires. Who have been hanging around africa and other fun places since 911. Who just retired and want to be left alone. But aint being left alone and their ex military pals are being hassled too by dangerhaired freaks.

Its going be some fun times ahead.

 

[Dr J]

I find it really strange that despite allegedly nailing the win, Biden suddenly needs over thirty million dollars to fight Trump's legal challenges. If they were based entirely upon bullshit, as indeed has been claimed by every single major news network for over a week, then they should have zero effort getting those thrown out of court. It's almost like they're fucking terrified of the prospect of getting a colonoscopy from the courts.

Not to mention that they've got several multibillionaires on their side. What happened to Bloomberg? Get him to pay the legal fees

 

[Gehenna]

Hines suggests the exact opposite. That the left is highly organized -- remember the thousands of people all saying "lol Antifa is an idea not an organization" in lockstep when Trump started mentioning going after them? Or Antifa logistics teams bringing in shields, food trucks... and manufactured ballots. But Righties... successful Righty violence will be lone wolves. Someone snapping and leaving an IED near where Antifa is about to march. Rushing into a Starbucks known to be an Antifa hangout, gunning everyone down and then vanishing. That sort of deal.

Reality and history would disagree with Hines. Occupy, Antifa, the initial Soviet rebellions, the communists in France, the violence of Labour during the Wilderness Years. The left historically is riven with strife and division, and works as a group that doesn't stick well to individual goals and rather works as a collective towards a general goal. Until someone with enough charisma or power to corral the cats comes along.

 

[draggs]

Who knew that defunding the police would lead to serious ass kickings. Now the mayors will have to either refund the police or be fucked lol.

They've already destroyed the futures of at least a couple tens of millions of people and made tens of millions more isolated and paranoid and frustrated. Stress is through the roof everywhere and has been for most of a year. They try it again and my usual sanguine view goes out the window. Especially if Trump went nuts on twitter fuck the new lockdowns and gets banned which he probably would.

 

[make_it_so]

The left sees violence as a tool to pressure people. It dials it up and down depending on the situation.

The right sees violence as a last resort. Kinda like how a mama bear and her cubs might act if trapped in a corner. Its not a tool for change but a means to eliminate threats to their survival. Its like a switch. Once its flipped on it wont stop until the threat is completely eliminated.

I've seen a variation on this idea, where for the left violence is like a dial on a stovetop, turning it up or down until you get the results to want. While for the right it is like an on/off switch that has only two modes: "normal" and "KILL FUCKING EVERYTHING."

 

[Green Man]

Something to keep in mind for Left vs. Right wing unrest.

Left Wing unrest is easier to reach, they are almost always discontent but at the same time they are easier to mollify when discontent. You see a lot of looting , burning, but not a lot of coordinated action. More just a loose band, working together towards a generalized goal. So its more common, but less destructive.

Right Wing unrest is... different. The right wing tends to be slow to anger, more happy to be content with grilling and going down to the pub. It doesn't really rise up and protest often, and when it does it tends towards symbolism. But when it boils over, Right Wing unrest is far, far more destructive. The Right Wing tends more towards clear goals, chains of command, and organized action. While slow to anger, once angered it finds a target for its anger and seeks to destroy it as quickly, and efficiently as possible.

You're correct, and the left would be wise had they stopped pushing, oh, a few months ago let's say. But now there's a lot of anger out there already building and it's most likely too late to disarm it, no matter how many times Sleepy Joe calls for unity and crossing the aisle. I'm sure many on the left are actually aware of this rising fire, some of them are probably even counting on it. They want another Charlottesville or another Tarrant sperg they can drag out to beat everyone over the head with, and I hope like fuck nobody gives it to them, no matter how much they have asked for it. They'd love nothing more than to have some more martyrs. The only thing the left has going for it now that they've pushed far beyond the threshold is that if you get three "far-right" people in a room with some folding chairs the glownogs will be trying to infiltrate the group by sundown and talking them into some kind of plot by sun-up, upon which the room full of folding chairs gets raided so they can pin it up on the news as "yet another" example of "right-wing extremism and violence". Except for online shit, the right really can't organize without something of that nature occurring, unless we're talking milquetoast conservatives, even the Proud Boys have likely been compromised and are deemed "Nazis" despite most of their takes being plain-Jane. Even the online shit is under siege, and has been for some time, with everyone to the right of Mao Zedong being censored, banned, deplatformed or shadowbanned off of pretty much every public platform aside from ones that few people use. Once those platforms can no longer be funded [because banks/payment processors are in on the shit] the right might very well be shoah'd off the Internet too. Hell, The_Donald was the Reddit home of milquetoast boomers and it still got taken down.

It's stunning how quick they can shift from calling you every nasty word in the book, beating people over the head with bike locks, throwing explosives at policemen and even shooting people in the fucking face in public and immediately shift to: "We need unity and civility! We must come together!" They must have the memory of a goldfish. They remember none of the events of the past six months apparently. But quite a few of us have been keeping score, and we won't soon forget.

I take a lot of glee in the fact that they get so fucking bold in places like Portland and Seattle because they're allowed to do so without consequence, but the very second they leave their friendly territories, they're instantly outnumbered and they get their shit rocked all fucking night when they try to export their stupid bullshit from Portland. They've already pushed too far. They wrote a fucking check and that son of a bitch bounced hard and now it seems like it might be time for them to pay up. Tonight's beatings in DC are just a taste of things to come, I'd imagine.

 

[DeadFish]

Someone said the democratic party is going broke. Wouldnt it be possible to buy it and take it over like a bar thats going out of business?

That would be a power move right there.

 

[Bartleby]

Something to keep in mind for Left vs. Right wing unrest.

Left Wing unrest is easier to reach, they are almost always discontent but at the same time they are easier to mollify when discontent. You see a lot of looting , burning, but not a lot of coordinated action. More just a loose band, working together towards a generalized goal. So its more common, but less destructive.

Right Wing unrest is... different. The right wing tends to be slow to anger, more happy to be content with grilling and going down to the pub. It doesn't really rise up and protest often, and when it does it tends towards symbolism. But when it boils over, Right Wing unrest is far, far more destructive. The Right Wing tends more towards clear goals, chains of command, and organized action. While slow to anger, once angered it finds a target for its anger and seeks to destroy it as quickly, and efficiently as possible.

Hines suggests the exact opposite. That the left is highly organized -- remember the thousands of people all saying "lol Antifa is an idea not an organization" in lockstep when Trump started mentioning going after them? Or Antifa logistics teams bringing in shields, food trucks... and manufactured ballots. But Righties... successful Righty violence will be lone wolves. Someone snapping and leaving an IED near where Antifa is about to march. Rushing into a Starbucks known to be an Antifa hangout, gunning everyone down and then vanishing. That sort of deal.

I feel like both of these perspectives aren't entirely mutually exclusive, though I'm not exactly an expert on the matter. Left wing unrest is organised and focused, which is why it isn't as destructive as it could be, since there's a lot of emphasis on maintaining optics for the media to glorify. I don't exactly agree that it isn't coordinated, though I think what triggers them is spontaneous before it's quickly subverted and capitalised on, see any race riot.

Whereas right wing unrest can't be organised due to the government's laser focus on preventing any major right wing groups from forming in the first place, hence most of what you see are lone wolves and mass shootings. But I do also think that if there's a trigger for right wing unrest like there are triggers for left wing unrest, though a lot more rare since it takes a lot to rouse the right from their usual complacency, you see the type of destruction @Gehenna mentions- an actual revolution unlike what the left claims their riots to be.

All that said, I really don't know what it would take for that to happen on a massive scale to the point it transitions from lone wolves to mobs, feels about as likely as finding a unicorn, but 2020 has been a steady source of stress that's been building up for the right in particular, so I won't act like it can't happen if Biden ends up winning, though I'm still skeptical on the likelihood.

 

[alreadyhome]

When Trump refused to concede to the cheating, the plan was to demoralize everyone day by day - from those who support him to those who had even slight doubts about fraud, but the "opposition" (no better word, because there's so much more than just Democrats trying to get Biden into office) is made up of people of such weak character, who are so inherently mutable and spineless, that the opposite effect has occurred as time has passed: they have demoralized themselves COMPLETELY, and no longer have any will to fight! They couldn't even last in this state of limbo, with all institutional power at their fingertips, for 2 WEEKS!

 

[Bland Crumbs]

The left sees violence as a tool to pressure people. It dials it up and down depending on the situation.

The right sees violence as a last resort. Kinda like how a mama bear and her cubs might act if trapped in a corner. Its not a tool for change but a means to eliminate threats to their survival. Its like a switch. Once its flipped on it wont stop until the threat is completely eliminated.

Also realize some of these folks might be ex legionnaires. Who have been hanging around africa and other fun places since 911. Who just retired and want to be left alone. But aint being left alone and their ex military pals are being hassled too by dangerhaired freaks.

Its going be some fun times ahead.

I do not think it will be fun but I do believe that there is this idea that the right is pacifistic. They want to be left alone. They want to live their lives. That was not good enough. No, every aspect of their life has been condemned and invaded.

When someone keeps telling you to leave them alone and you keep hitting them what happens?

How many countries has it happened in before?

All the right asked was that you leave them the fuck alone. Stop trying to take their guns. Stop trying to kill babies later and later and later and calling them clumps of cells. Stop trying to take more of their money to pay for programs they do not believe in. Stop trying to crush their livelihoods. For decades: Please stop pushing.

Nope. The left kept pushing. If you have ever watched a scrawny kid blank out on a bully that should be enough to get you to back off but the DNC just does not get it and IF it turns out there was incompetence or it turns out that the Dominion machines were compromised...holy shit.

Imagine that crowd in DC armed. Tell me how the NG is going to deal with them.

 

[DeadFish]

I feel like both of these perspectives aren't entirely mutually exclusive, though I'm not exactly an expert on the matter. Left wing unrest is organised and focused, which is why it isn't as destructive as it could be, since there's a lot of emphasis on maintaining optics for the media to glorify. I don't exactly agree that it isn't coordinated, though I think what triggers them is spontaneous before it's quickly subverted and capitalised on, see any race riot.

Whereas right wing unrest can't be organised due to the government's laser focus on preventing any major right wing groups from forming in the first place, hence most of what you see are lone wolves and mass shootings. But I do also think that if there's a trigger for right wing unrest like there are triggers for left wing unrest, though a lot more rare since it takes a lot to rouse the right from their usual complacency, you see the type of destruction @Gehenna mentions- an actual revolution unlike what the left claims their riots to be.

All that said, I really don't know what it would take for that to happen on a massive scale to the point it transitions from lone wolves to mobs, feels about as likely as finding a unicorn, but 2020 has been a steady source of stress that's been building up for the right in particular, so I won't act like it can't happen if Biden ends up winning, though I'm still skeptical on the likelihood.

The trigger for the right is make it a fight or die situation. That or do some very grievous harm to them. McVeigh did what he did as revenge for ruby ridge.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Someone said the democratic party is going broke. Wouldnt it be possible to buy it and take it over like a bar thats going out of business?

That would be a power move right there.

Can a former president ever flip flop and run for another party in another election?

Trump managing to primary out Kamala, if it happens, would likely destroy the minds of Democrats and it would be hilarious.

 

[DeadFish]

Can a former president ever flip flop and run for another party in another election?

Trump managing to primary out Kamala, if it happens, would likely destroy the minds of Democrats and it would be hilarious.

I didnt come up with the idea. One of you geniuses did. Its brilliant.

I know kiwifarms Isnt a trolling illuminati but if we could do this...

ID put up a grand for such an endeavor.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Can a former president ever flip flop and run for another party in another election?

Trump managing to primary out Kamala, if it happens, would likely destroy the minds of Democrats and it would be hilarious.

Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt was unhappy with Taft's performance, so he formed the Bull Moose Party and ran for a third term to split the vote. He succeeded, and caused the Wilson administration (congratulations_you_played_yourself.gif) It's obviously not common, but there is precedent.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

I didnt come up with the idea. One of you geniuses did. Its brilliant.

I know kiwifarms Isnt a trolling illuminati but if we could do this...

ID put up a grand for such an endeavor.

I am counting on Null 2024...