Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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She's a cringey politician who needs a detractor thread. She's turning Chicago into Detroit 2.
Detroit has been making baby steps of progress post-bankruptcy. Her decision making is making Detroit look slightly more appealing at the moment.

Governors are using up the CARES act funding before it expires which is, IMO, why they're tripling down on this shit. The governor of my state spent CARES money to get the overflow facility ready in the Spring, and it sat unused. They spent more money on it this fall in more "preparation" to open it, and did so for the "spike" about a month ago. It's a fucking huge facility - there are EIGHT people there now. HOSPITALS ARE OVERFLOWING people!!
In Michigan, namely Downtown Detroit, a facility that was quickly repurposed to hold thousands of overflow COVID patients barely held 100 or so at its peak before the last were released. Another such facility was opened in the northwestern suburban outskirts only to go unused. For examples elsewhere, I believe that some sort of medical ship was stationed in the New York City area and went largely underutilized before leaving there.

That said, it sucks to see governmental agencies using CARES money however they please before it expires when other entities that could have better benefitted from those funds didn't get them. *sigh*

Some people think that, with a vaccine around the corner, they'll no longer need to be prepared to stay home for weeks on end, so rather than use up what they bought, they're donating it (and most are first-time donors who are shitty about getting receipts so they can write it off their taxes).
It wasn't only food and perishable items. Some people overstocked on paper products to the point they found themselves with more than they need and could reasonably store. The kicker was that the deadline for exchanges had passed in many instances which precluded the possibility of a return for refund. In some instances documented here, people couldn't even sell them for a profit without running afoul of state laws on profiteering/price gouging. It just goes to show that people don't think straight when they're whipped into a hysteria -- whether by the media or their own accord.

As for a tax write-off, most people wouldn't get one for the donations anyways given the current rules for itemized deductions even if they kept receipts. Currently, the standard deduction is $12400 for a single person and $24800 for a joint return so there would be no write-off unless someone had enough in itemized deductions to exceed those figures. Also, non-cash contributions have additional red tape. For example, non-cash contributions that exceed $500 in value have to be declared on Form 8283 that lists details on who received the donation(s) and the declared values of such.
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In other news about Ticketmaster's demands for proof of a negative COVID test or vaccination, it appears that hopeful concert-goers would have to go through some sort of clearing house.
Customers would then authorize vaccine distribution providers, like Labcorp or CVS Minute Clinic, to send their results to a health pass company, like CLEAR or IBM.

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Will people be willing to submit their personal/private health information to a third party whose privacy policy and security procedures might not be strict enough to keep that information from falling into the wrong hands? With data breaches of all sorts happening quite frequently and hackers targeting medical information as soon as it was required to be stored electronically, I foresee people growing more frustrated at what they see is the further erosion of their privacy -- especially regarding medical matters -- and push back on this and/or decide to forego concerts in light of this requirement.
 
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I bet she's got some interesting hobbies and doesn't have TDS...

For someone so "educated", these people are complete emotional and logical wrecks.

Not surprised she's another short Jew Goblina living in LA trying to break into comedy. Those people are a dime a dozen here.

Also pretty funny to see her and other "political scientists" on her account suck each other off on how smart they are. How come these sort of people never obsess over comparing themselves on tangible things, like who's the strongest or has the most money?
 
To comment on Elon Musk's wishy washy positive tests. Rapid antigen tests are usually trash, especially these EUA ones.

Not to pl too much. But I run molecular tests for a living, mainly viral pathogens. My work has been >50% covid for the last 8 months.

PCRs are EXTREMELY sensitive. This can be a good thing if used properly. But a positive test is being used as a diagnosis when the reality is a positive result just means you have at least 25-1000(different tests) viral particles. It does not indicate they are infectious and an infective dose is currently unknown so 100 copies in your nose might mean nothing.

To compare. Salmonella's infective dose is around 5000 viable bacteria in a healthy person for it to overwhelm a healthy person. You come into contact with salmonella virtually every day. Its all about amount your immune system can just kill before it reproduces too much.


On a different note I want to address a conspiracy theory that COVID19 cases are actually influenza. I run both tests for a living. Before COVID I'd have at least one positive flu a day even in summer months, during fall and winter months it'd be dozens.

Our lab has had 0 since April. What happens is COVID outcompetes other viruses so they don't spread far. Some good news is we are starting to see quite a few rhinoviruses make a comeback so the "ecosystem" is returning.
 
Jokes on them. I just got a free freezer with a quarter of grass feed beef from my in laws.
Er well, those are the industrial ones that can go down to -94F for vaccine storage.

Colorado does not want to lockdown without federal gibs.

 
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Is there a dedicated thread somewhere for vaccine sperging or is this the spot? All this talk of potentially mandatory vaccination has me thirsting for some discussions on safety and constitutional rights and blah blah etc. I vaguely remember some discussion happening in this thread but fuck me if I can find all the meaty vax posts in these almost 2k pages.
 
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Just about no one can, given how even Europe is experiencing anti-lockdown protests at this point.

The more politicians and "experts" keep pushing this bullshit, the more likely this ordeal won't end peacefully...

Never were truer words spoken.

Here's the latest from the county I live in, further ensuring thousands of breadwinners cannot feed their families. And tomorrow morning will see the usual mile-long line of cars queued up for food. Every car is a tragedy, even if some of these people voted for Biden.

COUNTY REPORTS 265 NEW CASES IN ONE DAY — HIGHEST SINCE MID-AUGUST

• Number is more than half of last week's surging total

This morning the Monterey County health department reported a shocking total of 265 new coronavirus cases in a single day — a number which surpasses anything seen in the county in three months and is more than half of the total reported last week. In yesterday's bulletin, we called last week's cases a "surge," but they suddenly look mild by comparison.

Today's report raises the county's 7-day average of new cases per day per 100,000 residents to 22.2, which is a million miles from the 7.0 needed to advance from the Purple Tier to the Red Tier in the governor's economic shutdown scheme.

Of today's 265 cases, 192 were in Salinas and the Salinas Valley, but 45 were in the Monterey Peninsula, including 17 in Seaside, nine in Monterey, eight in Marina, five in Pacific Grove, four in Carmel area (93923), one each in Carmel Valley and Pebble Beach, and none in Big Sur or Carmel-by-the-Sea.

Another worrying development is that today's 265 new cases were found among just 877 tests — a daily positivity rate of 30 percent. Our 7-day average positivity rate is now 14.35 percent, which is also a very bad number according to the governor's shutdown criteria.

For details about Monterey County's shutdown status, as reported by the California Department of Public Health, click here. To see the most up-to-date charts and tables from the county health department, click here. Below, you can also find the updated versions of our charts showing coronavirus infections countywide and in the Monterey Peninsula, along with the data for hospitalizations and our chart breaking down Monterey County's coronavirus cases and infection rates by zip code. Please check these charts and tables for the latest data on coronavirus cases in your community.
 
Er well, those are the industrial ones that can go down to -94F for vaccine storage.

Colorado does not want to lockdown without federal gibs.

The lockdowns have be a scheme help pay off pensions and other state debts at the cost of are freedoms and local businesses .
 
Why aren't all the people I party with sick and dying? Why aren't their families? Why aren't the staff, the owners, and the tourist industry itself all dead? I've literally been attending multiple "superspreader" events every weekend for months now. Every bar and club on the strip is hosting them. People also hit more than one venue a night. Having an early curfew doesn't change the fact that there are thousands of people rubbing up on each other and yelling in each other's faces for hours, almost every night of the week. I'm sorry but if people were really getting sick at least ONE person in the party community would be talking about it. There'd be rumors. When isn't there rumors? Why isn't the big hospital overflowing?

I'm an empiricist. WHERE ARE THE BODIES
 
Why aren't all the people I party with sick and dying? Why aren't their families? Why aren't the staff, the owners, and the tourist industry itself all dead? I've literally been attending multiple "superspreader" events every weekend for months now. Every bar and club on the strip is hosting them. People also hit more than one venue a night. Having an early curfew doesn't change the fact that there are thousands of people rubbing up on each other and yelling in each other's faces for hours, almost every night of the week. I'm sorry but if people were really getting sick at least ONE person in the party community would be talking about it. There'd be rumors. When isn't there rumors? Why isn't the big hospital overflowing?

I'm an empiricist. WHERE ARE THE BODIES

I don't know a single person who's died from coronavirus and that includes my big ass extended white trash family. I've also asked about twenty friends and none of them can name anyone either. Other people on this board have said they know some people but the lack of bodies is giving me some serious pause.
 
I saw mommy KILLING Santa Claus
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It should go without saying that your New Year's Eve plans can go fuck themselves, as well. Maybe he's waiting until we get a little closer to that point to say it, but it's coming.
I don't know a single person who's died from coronavirus and that includes my big ass extended white trash family. I've also asked about twenty friends and none of them can name anyone either. Other people on this board have said they know some people but the lack of bodies is giving me some serious pause.
Despite the WuFlu being a huge danger to fatties, we have not lost a single deathfat in our stable.
 
Why aren't all the people I party with sick and dying? Why aren't their families? Why aren't the staff, the owners, and the tourist industry itself all dead? I've literally been attending multiple "superspreader" events every weekend for months now. Every bar and club on the strip is hosting them. People also hit more than one venue a night. Having an early curfew doesn't change the fact that there are thousands of people rubbing up on each other and yelling in each other's faces for hours, almost every night of the week. I'm sorry but if people were really getting sick at least ONE person in the party community would be talking about it. There'd be rumors. When isn't there rumors? Why isn't the big hospital overflowing?

I'm an empiricist. WHERE ARE THE BODIES

Good on you for partying in Vegas. I went snowboarding yesterday and it felt amazing to be back out up there. Everyone else had good vibes and even the resort staff weren't being mask nazis about shit.
 
Seems groups of people are just deciding to say fuck it.

My church has no one doing masks. My wife's mom's group doesn't. I haven't worn a mask outside of work in months and no one has said anything. Only issue in my personal life is some family members are seriously scared and rarely leave the house. Its not something they came to logically so its been impossible or inadvisable to push em. I think some are scared of me and my wife because we live our lives.
 
It should go without saying that your New Year's Eve plans can go fuck themselves, as well. Maybe he's waiting until we get a little closer to that point to say it, but it's coming.
Might as well cancel Valentine's Day ahead of schedule too.

Have a romantic evening with your significant other virtually! And for the single folk, just stay home. You weren't going outside anyways.

It's going to be sad seeing the ball drop without the usual crowd of drunks hyping up the New Year.
 
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