Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Stardust]

parents can always intervene. and the idea that if we lower age of consent, 14 yr olds will run away to have sex with 41 yr olds,,, non-sense. In practice it just means more marriage age relationships between women in their teens and men in the their late teens or early (maybe mid) 20s. I guarantee you that if you look back, some of your ancestors had this age gap too.

You're only looking at one side. You are assuming all men are righteous and true gentlemen, which they are not since, well, you exist.

if White Americans refuse to deport the non-whites and enact hetero-normative values, I'll leave.

I, a White American, disapprove of your non-white, faggot self. Please deport.

 

[Popper Whiting]

I'm not just moving the overton window, I'll shatter it.

Bullshit. You'll lick it, like you do most windows.

And because I legitimately think you're a mentally retarded dolt lumbering under the Dunning-Kruger effect, that joke was me saying you're a retard who'll achieve nothing.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

People under the age of consent fuck all the time, we all know this. But they fuck each other, not fuck people three times their age.

So you acknowledge that people under the age of consent can in fact consent to sex?

Tell me Boxy, why do you want to fuck someone so young? What about someone your own age is so off putting? I can honestly say even when I was 18 I never looked at another person who was 12 or even 14/15 and thought I wanted some of that, let alone now I'm older.

Well women my age are starting to hit the wall but I'm not lusting after 14 yr olds. I'm just saying that AOC would be better at that age.

I'm a teacher, that would be like fucking a student. The thought actually disgusts me. So please enlighten me on why you want to fuck someone so young, and don't just say "because puberty" because someone who's 25 or so has still gone through puberty but you won't fuck them.

I'm abolishing k-12. I don't respect most teachers. Most teachers only care about forcing the students to repeat what they want to hear. Total narcissism.
And students fucking teachers occurs quite regularly. You're just criminalizing normal human sexuality

If puberty is the guide, then why not lower AOC to 8 or 9? That age isn't uncommon for girls to start bleeding. 12 is a pretty random number tbh.

Well according to that wiki article, it was 7 or 8 in Delaware.
Ideally AOC would be at the border between hebe and ephe.

Address this point

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/debate...lor-moon-and-more.70469/page-426#post-7763656

Do you acknowledge that AOC causes child abuse for many women because it teaches them that men are perverts and are "sexually harrashing" them.

You're only looking at one side. You are assuming all men are righteous and true gentlemen, which they are not since, well, you exist.

I never said they are. And not all women are innocent and sweat.

I, a White American, disapprove of your non-white, faggot self. Please deport.

Do you speak with a white voice and advocate for the white community?

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Holy shit can you imagine the power dynamic between some 30 year old man driving a 14 year old around on a date? Truly disturbing, and yes that would definitely happen, don't be naive it happens now. If it were legal it would happen way way more often.

He doesn't believe this 30 vs 14 year old power dynamic exists, in his opinion females have most the power in a dating relationship. It has been brought up somewhere in this autism dispenser of a thread a couple of different times and he always ignores it or says that is bullshit. He just wants females to become good waifus as fast as possible and by doing this more relationships and marriages will exist.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

So you acknowledge that people under the age of consent can in fact consent to sex?


Well women my age are starting to hit the wall but I'm not lusting after 14 yr olds. I'm just saying that AOC would be better at that age.


I'm abolishing k-12. I don't respect most teachers. Most teachers only care about forcing the students to repeat what they want to hear. Total narcissism.
And students fucking teachers occurs quite regularly. You're just criminalizing normal human sexuality

Well according to that wiki article, it was 7 or 8 in Delaware.
Ideally AOC would be at the border between hebe and ephe.

Address this point

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/debate...lor-moon-and-more.70469/page-426#post-7763656

Do you acknowledge that AOC causes child abuse for many women because it teaches them that men are perverts and are "sexually harrashing" them.


I never said they are. And not all women are innocent and sweat.

Do you speak with a white voice and advocate for the white community?

There's a big difference between two kids the same age doing something and a 30 year old fucking a 12 year old. Namely, how are they going to meet in the first place in any way that isn't extremely red flagish?

2 kids, age 14 in the same class, who are friends etc, I would say can give some form of consent, but it's in no way legal, informed consent and shouldn't be normalised. You think kids understand the risks of sex? The risks of STDs? The actual reality of pregnancy at a young age if they don't use protection?

Kids that age also regularly drink alcohol, but should we lower the age that they can legally buy it to fit that? No, because even adults don't understand the risks of binge drinking. Just because there are exceptions to the rule doesn't mean we change the rule that covers the majority already.

Teachers fucking students is abuse. Not because of the sex, but because there is a huge power imbalance and the teacher can easily groom the student into agreeing to things they don't fully understand. The same goes for any person underage, if the other person involved has any kind of extra control in the situation, even someone of a similar age who just knows more about sex than the other, they can manipulate someone into doing things they don't understand the consequences of. This kind of thing still happens to adults, people are manipulated into sex all the time, but at least we can protect children from it with AOC laws 9/10 times.

I do wonder though, what would you replace k-12 with? Just abolish school and do what..?

And no, child abuse is child abuse. If some man touches a 10 year old he's a pedo.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

He doesn't believe this 30 vs 18 year old power dynamic exists, in his opinion females have most the power in a dating relationship. It has been brought up somewhere in this autism dispenser of a thread a couple of different times and he always ignores it or says that is bullshit. He just wants females to become good waifus as fast as possible and by doing this more relationships and marriages will exist.

power dynamics = feminist propaganda and the basis of power + prejudice = racism redefinition.

There's a big difference between two kids the same age doing something and a 30 year old fucking a 12 year old. Namely, how are they going to meet in the first place in any way that isn't extremely red flagish?

2 kids, age 14 in the same class, who are friends etc, I would say can give some form of consent, but it's in no way legal, informed consent and shouldn't be normalised. You think kids understand the risks of sex? The risks of STDs? The actual reality of pregnancy at a young age if they don't use protection?

Kids that age also regularly drink alcohol, but should we lower the age that they can legally buy it to fit that? No, because even adults don't understand the risks of binge drinking. Just because there are exceptions to the rule doesn't mean we change the rule that covers the majority already.

Teachers fucking students is abuse. Not because of the sex, but because there is a huge power imbalance and the teacher can easily groom the student into agreeing to things they don't fully understand. The same goes for any person underage, if the other person involved has any kind of extra control in the situation, even someone of a similar age who just knows more about sex than the other, they can manipulate someone into doing things they don't understand the consequences of. This kind of thing still happens to adults, people are manipulated into sex all the time, but at least we can protect children from it with AOC laws 9/10 times.

I do wonder though, what would you replace k-12 with? Just abolish school and do what..?

And no, child abuse is child abuse. If some man touches a 10 year old he's a pedo.

no, there is no difference between a 14 yr old girl having sex with a 16 yr old vs a 30 yr old. exact same. the only difference is 14 + 16 occurs soo frequently that they needed to make a romeo+juliet loophole in the law.
and again "kids" see having age of consent at 18 makes you think a 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 yr old is "kids" your mind is completely wrapped and further proving my point that AOC needs to be lowered.
and power imbalance. again feminist garbage and basis of many issues including workplace sexual harassment lawsuits. I don't accept "power dynamic" when it comes to adults, they are free to consent or not.
Power dynamic is a bs way to get around the fact that there is no real force of violence so you're making up a social construct to act like a force.

Get lost feminists.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

power dynamics = feminist propaganda and the basis of power + prejudice = racism redefinition.


no, there is no difference between a 14 yr old girl having sex with a 16 yr old vs a 30 yr old. exact same. the only difference is 14 + 16 occurs soo frequently that they needed to make a romeo+juliet loophole in the law.
and again "kids" see having age of consent at 18 makes you think a 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 yr old is "kids" your mind is completely wrapped and further proving my point that AOC needs to be lowered.
and power imbalance. again feminist garbage and basis of many issues including workplace sexual harassment lawsuits. I don't accept "power dynamic" when it comes to adults, they are free to consent or not.
Power dynamic is a bs way to get around the fact that there is no real force of violence so you're making up a social construct to act like a force.

Get lost feminists.

Boys get sexually abused just as much as girls do, this has nothing to do with feminism.

I'm not even sure you have the mental ability to give informed consent to anything given your current track history Boxy, that's proof enough even adults aren't perfect.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

. . .
Instead she is being told, "men are prevents. They are sexually harassing you."
. . .
So those men are not prevents or . . .

Why can you not fucking spell? Don't you fucking dare tell white men how to think or behave when you make a mockery of their language with every post you make, Diego.

So you acknowledge that people under the age of consent can in fact consent to sex?

They can say "Yes" but the point is, and I realise your autism might make this difficult to understand: They aren't mentally or emotionally ready for it. It's consent, but not informed consent.

Well women my age are starting to hit the wall but I'm not lusting after 14 yr olds. I'm just saying that AOC would be better at that age.

Man with no job, no income, no social skills wants wider dating pool because women his own age "are starting to hit the wall".
Nigger. Please.

I'm abolishing k-12. I don't respect most teachers. Most teachers only care about forcing the students to repeat what they want to hear. Total narcissism.
And students fucking teachers occurs quite regularly. You're just criminalizing normal human sexuality

Let me guess: You had a teacher you wanted to stick your swarthy micropeen into? But she wanted you to, you know, actually do your schoolwork, or something and was disgusted by the thought of banging this juvenile ape that lusted after her? Is that what this is all about, @PedoShorts47? Did you get BTFO'd by your Special Ed teacher and now you're gonna show her what's what?

. . .
Do you acknowledge that AOC causes child abuse for many women because it teaches them that men are perverts and are "sexually harrashing" them.

I never said they are. And not all women are innocent and sweat.
. . .

Seriously, if you want to talk to the whites, learn our language and its proper usage, you illiterate fucking monkey.

power dynamics = feminist propaganda and the basis of power + prejudice = racism redefinition.

So you don't think you would have any sway or "perceived authority" over a 14 yo girl? You're that delusional?

no, there is no difference between a 14 yr old girl having sex with a 16 yr old vs a 30 yr old. exact same. the only difference is 14 + 16 occurs soo frequently that they needed to make a romeo+juliet loophole in the law.

14 and 16 yo kids haven't developed the emotional or mental maturity to know that they shouldn't be banging. What do you actually think the "Romeo + Juliet loophole" is for? If a 30 year old doesn't understand the ramifications of fucking a child, then they should be sterilised, as should retards like you.

and power imbalance. again feminist garbage and basis of many issues including workplace sexual harassment lawsuits. I don't accept "power dynamic" when it comes to adults, they are free to consent or not.
Power dynamic is a bs way to get around the fact that there is no real force of violence so you're making up a social construct to act like a force.

You don't get to have an opinion on workplace issues, you jobless wanker. Free to consent or not is a lofty idea, but the reality is that if someone is in a position to make your life very difficult, they have the upper hand in a power dynamic.

Get lost feminists.

Sounds like you resent women, not feminists. @NoncerShorts47, it's fine to be a faggot, these days; no one's gonna judge you for that, just accept it. We'll judge you for being retarded, a kiddy fiddler and a Heinz 57 racial mutt, but not for being legit gay.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

You don't get to have an opinion on workplace issues, you jobless wanker. Free to consent or not is a lofty idea, but the reality is that if someone is in a position to make your life very difficult, they have the upper hand in a power dynamic.

Lmao just tell your boss no when they say that they want to fuck you and refuse to take no for an answer, what could possibly happen?

 

[Stardust]

Boxy, as a kid, did it make you mad that your mom failed to sign your field trip form? That your mom, a woman, had the power to deny you a trip to the zoo?

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Boxy, as a kid, did it make you mad that your mom failed to sign your field trip form? That your mom, a woman, had the power to deny you a trip to the zoo?

That is child abuse tbh. He could have seen his father on that field trip.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

That is child abuse tbh. He could have seen his father on that field trip.

His father needs finding and sterilising. We can't have more of his retarded spawn shitting up the world.

 

[Stardust]

His father needs finding and sterilising. We can't have more of his retarded spawn shitting up the world.

Boxy admits he has siblings. It may be too late, unless Boxy was a fluke.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Boxy admits he has siblings. It may be too late, unless Boxy was a fluke.

If he has a sister that lives with him, she 100% does all her own laundry and has a lock on her door.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Boxy admits he has siblings. It may be too late, unless Boxy was a fluke.

I mean they might be step siblings. What if Boxy's step dad is white and his successful step siblings are also white? He is just the odd nigger out in his current family.

 

[Stardust]

I mean they might be step siblings. What if Boxy's step dad is white and his successful step siblings are also white? He is just the odd nigger out in his current family.

Could he be envious of their white blood? You may be onto something, Professor Genbu.

 

[Begemot]

power dynamics = feminist propaganda and the basis of power + prejudice = racism redefinition.


no, there is no difference between a 14 yr old girl having sex with a 16 yr old vs a 30 yr old. exact same. the only difference is 14 + 16 occurs soo frequently that they needed to make a romeo+juliet loophole in the law.
and again "kids" see having age of consent at 18 makes you think a 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 yr old is "kids" your mind is completely wrapped and further proving my point that AOC needs to be lowered.
and power imbalance. again feminist garbage and basis of many issues including workplace sexual harassment lawsuits. I don't accept "power dynamic" when it comes to adults, they are free to consent or not.
Power dynamic is a bs way to get around the fact that there is no real force of violence so you're making up a social construct to act like a force.

Get lost feminists.

Really? There's no power difference between an adult and an teenager. So, the mask comes off to create the sickening display we see here. This heinous predator would enforce unequal relationships and then blame the victim. This predator gloats in his depravity, that's all his manifesto is, a tool to try to enforce sexual slavery.

Get help @BoxerShorts47. Your delusions have corrupted you.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Really? There's no power difference between an adult and an teenager. So, the mask comes off to create the sickening display we see here. This heinous predator would enforce unequal relationships and then blame the victim. This predator gloats in his depravity, that's all his manifesto is, a tool to try to enforce sexual slavery.

Get help @BoxerShorts47. Your delusions have corrupted you.

no. teenage girls young women have the most power because they have the most options.
complete other way around.
women lose all their power around 30 and that's when men have the "power imbalance"
you're just parroting feminist ideology and we know this is a lie because of incel/pua/mgtow research.

 

[Stardust]

Really? There's no power difference between an adult and an teenager. So, the mask comes off to create the sickening display we see here. This heinous predator would enforce unequal relationships and then blame the victim. This predator gloats in his depravity, that's all his manifesto is, a tool to try to enforce sexual slavery.

Get help @BoxerShorts47. Your delusions have corrupted you.

This is what makes Boxy so peculiar. If coming from anybody else with absolute authority, it is indeed heinous, but... this is ol' Boxcar... this sexual slavery society he so autistically yearns for would not be available to himself.

White men, with jobs, are the only ones allowed to hold political positions or exploit society. Marriage and children are prerequisites in this Boxtopia. Non-whites get deported, away from the little girls, as interracial marriage and, especially, racial mixing is heresy. In Our High IQ Savior's own ideal world, he would either be killed or barred from carnal indulgences, thus cucking himself by making it ridiculously difficult to prey upon kids.

Boxy is his own worst enemy. The Pedopino, on a subconscious level, realizes what an asinine loser he is, and sabotages his ambitions. This, on top of being colossally dumb, is why Boxy will always fail and be denied anything of a decision more than "Chicken Tendies or Chicken Nuggies?".

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

no. teenage girls young women have the most power because they have the most options.
complete other way around.
women lose all their power around 30 and that's when men have the "power imbalance"
you're just parroting feminist ideology and we know this is a lie because of incel/pua/mgtow research.

Well, if we needed any confirmation that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, there it is.

Have you ever actually had a girlfriend, Boxcar? Not a "girlfriend experience" from a prostitute, an actual girlfriend.

"Feminist ideology is a lie because of incel research" - my fucking sides.

It isn't women that make incels unfuckable, @my ideal waifu is under 14, it's their attitudes.