2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Someone mentioned this a few hundred pages back, but it's a non-zero chance that the left has been stealing elections for a very, very long time indeed.

Maybe this is where things start to fall apart. If Trump starts tugging on this thread, they might just toss Biden aside to prevent people from looking too closely at other races and historical data.
The 1960 election was stolen, but Nixon didn't want to challenge it and cause a "constitutional crisis." The question isn't whether previous elections (presidential and downballot) were stolen, the question is the magnitude of fraud historically and whether the democratic party is actually as popular as we are led to believe.
Who the hell thought it was a good idea to have a James Bond villain broadcast their plans for world domination?
 
Did we ever get any information on that "emergency meeting" that took place? The blue-balling is fucking killing me. I'm sure the Trump team has to play this shit close to the chest for obvious reasons, but this topic isn't exactly easy to just ignore and catch up on it at a later date.

If you assume you can't trust the press when they tell you Biden has this and you can't trust Trump's legal team when they claim evidence that will convince the SCOTUS to declare ballots illegal the only thing you can do is to wait to see which states certify the results and which do not.

If Biden gets to 270 in certified results, he's POTUS. If enough states come out and say they won't certify we're heading for a contingent election. If they certify Republican electors Trump will be POTUS.

Unfortunately, I think each of these outcomes comes with a significant risk that the result won't be accepted by half the population and some of them will be willing to use violence to overturn it. Even a 'do nothing' Biden Presidency which is hampered by a narrow House majority and no or a narrow Senate majority is going to be incredibly mistrusted. Everything it does will be assumed to be some sort of plot to rig further elections and entrench itself.

tl;dr Shit is going to hit the fan.
 
If Biden gets to 270 in certified results, he's POTUS. If enough states come out and say they won't certify we're heading for a contingent election. If they certify Republican electors Trump will be POTUS.
Even if results are certified, they can be fought post-certification, like Florida's was in 2000, but at that point, I imagine it gets trickier than saying "we can't certify because the results are fucked."
 
If you assume you can't trust the press when they tell you Biden has this and you can't trust Trump's legal team when they claim evidence that will convince the SCOTUS to declare ballots illegal the only thing you can do is to wait to see which states certify the results and which do not.
Indeed. I suppose it speaks to the situation that I actually have difficulty just patiently waiting it out in the meanwhile.
tl;dr Shit is going to hit the fan.
Without question.
 
Who the hell thought it was a good idea to have a James Bond villain broadcast their plans for world domination?

If there's one thing I learned in my years as a leftie, it's radical leftists will never shut up about their so-called utopias, and will always fail to understand why people find them more akin to dystopias. Looneys think it'll be evident to everyone how objectively right their vision for the future is if only shown the light. Seriously that's one of the things that stuck more to my mind since I left communism. Right wing groups just talk about the problems they see and debate how to fix them. Left wing groups debate about how utopic the future will be and how to get there. And let me tell ya... Reason I got into socialism was to fix issues. Like hey, healthcare access cannot be guaranteed by the private sector, well public healthcare sounds like it'd fix that. Hey, employers are being abusive dicks again, well unions sound like a way to fix that. Hey, the private sector sure as shit can't be trusted to take care of the parts of our infrastructure that don't produce a profit but which are necessary for the country to function, better make sure the state covers the cost of that shit if we want to avoid becoming the 3rd world. But no, with lefty think tanks is all about how we get perfect equality, how to achieve a system with bullshit councils of whatever, how to fucking get people to go along with whatever stupid bullshit they're trying to shoehorn in now. Bitch we'll never get perfect equality and I sure as shit won't want it. I only ever asked about equality of opportunity. I just want people to be able to live without having to be scared of being abused, I don't care who does the abuse, public or private the boot doesn't taste any better. But no, apparently this is now considered a hot take. 'Cause right wingers tell me I'm a statist bootlicker for thinking their precious free market can fail in some aspects and lefties think I'm some kinda backwards bumpkin from a ranch in texas for thinking maybe we should be ensuring people's right to do what they want instead of trying to force them to do what we want them to do.

Holy fuck I'm starting to sound like a professor I knew... And I thought he was just a jaded mysanthropist back in the day.
 
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Now show the one where only white women vote.
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Here's the whitepill on sex. Even after all is said and done, White women still voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2016. I don't expect the map to look much different in 2020.

I agree women are more susceptible to indoctrination, but they aren't lost. Giving them the right to vote was not a mistake.
 
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Here's the whitepill on sex. Even after all is said and done, White women still voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2016. I don't expect the map to look much different in 2020.

I agree women are more susceptible to indoctrination, but they aren't lost. Giving them the right to vote was not a mistake.

Obviously the mistake was giving niggas the right to vote, if this is to be believed.
 
The Supreme Court is a joke. Last and ultimate authority in the land? Corporations are people too!

Soon, they'll be ruling that you MUST be vaccinated. Just you watch.
They won't have to, it will be impossible to do anything without it. We already have a similar system with other vaccinations. Now they have an excuse to push it out from schools and universities to travel and public events.
No one lives in Wyoming.

That's the meme.
Wrong, Wyoming has its own sexy gothic bad boy who smells good.
 
Here's the whitepill on sex. Even after all is said and done, White women still voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2016. I don't expect the map to look much different in 2020.

I agree women are more susceptible to indoctrination, but they aren't lost. Giving them the right to vote was not a mistake.
Pretty sure we had some data showing that Trump gained white women in 2020. There was an article breaking down the demographics ~1000 pages ago.
 
Currently it runs like that, but people without shares are allowed to vote.

So like a board of directors in a country using the "workers on boards" model?

Yeah that's a fucking thing I learned about only very recently. Here in spain it's only done in the public sector. And giving far less power to the unions. Wtf is going on with europe?

The REAL mistake was giving non-land owners the right to vote.

If you think landowners will vote with common sense, or right wing, think again in both cases. Over here in andalusia they vote overhwhelmingly PSOE, even after the bloody corruption cases started propping up. And they were doing the same in Texas for a while that's why it was originaly blue. And children of rich families tend to be AnComs because they're a buncha entitled idiots that hate their parents. So I wouldn't trust them myself.
 
If there's one thing I learned in my years as a leftie, it's radical leftists will never shut up about their so-called utopias, and will always fail to understand why people find them more akin to dystopias. Looneys think it'll be evident to everyone how objectively right their vision for the future is if only shown the light. Seriously that's one of the things that stuck more to my mind since I left communism. Right wing groups just talk about the problems they see and debate how to fix them. Left wing groups debate about how utopic the future will be and how to get there. And let me tell ya... Reason I got into socialism was to fix issues. Like hey, healthcare access cannot be guaranteed by the private sector, well public healthcare sounds like it'd fix that. Hey, employers are being abusive dicks again, well unions sound like a way to fix that. Hey, the private sector sure as shit can't be trusted to take care of the parts of our infrastructure that don't produce a profit but which are necessary for the country to function, better make sure the state covers the cost of that shit if we want to avoid becoming the 3rd world. But no, with lefty think tanks is all about how we get perfect equality, how to achieve a system with bullshit councils of whatever, how to fucking get people to go along with whatever stupid bullshit they're trying to shoehorn in now. Bitch we'll never get perfect equality and I sure as shit won't want it. I only ever asked about equality of opportunity. I just want people to be able to live without having to be scared of being abused, I don't care who does the abuse, public or private the boot doesn't taste any better. But no, apparently this is now considered a hot take. 'Cause right wingers tell me I'm a statist bootlicker for thinking their precious free market can fail in some aspects and lefties think I'm some kinda backwards bumpkin from a ranch in texas for thinking maybe we should be ensuring people's right to do what they want instead of trying to force them to do what we want them to do.

Holy fuck I'm starting to sound like a professor I knew... And I thought he was just a jaded mysanthropist back in the day.
Marxism was just a utopia dream, it makes sense that people who borrow from its ideas will just propose utopias as if they're a real policy position.
 
Basically.

You can treat what the left is doing under basic economics.

What are they desperate, VERY DESPERATE, to obtain right now? That explains their actions, more than anything else.

Legitimacy.

They have none. EVERYONE -- even the left -- knows that this election was bullshit. The hard left and their allies (the media) just doesn't care because they won, and they don't really give a shit about America anyway, since NO BORDERS NO WALL NO USA AT ALL and they're only a few days from the great American Cultural Revolution and their promised commie utopia. Who cares if we all know the election was rigged? What are we gonna do, vote them out? They'll rig that one, too. Assault them in the streets? Antifa will defend them and the Feds will defend Antifa. To the smug far left, they've won -- but they need legitimacy to solidify it.

Notice how large swaths of the left have been very, very silent? Where's Pelosi? She should be out there every day explaining how the evil Trump is harming the universe by refusing to give the left what they rightfully stole fair and square -- god knows the media would let her have every soapbox she might ever want. Hell, where's Biden?! Him and Kamala have done lids nearly every day since the election. Instead you have anonymous sources and low level staffers all speaking out and being amplified by the media, because the Pelosis of the world don't want to be anywhere near this bomb if it does go off. Simply put, they know something's wrong, and they're waiting to see if Trump can prove it.

So they're actions show they're desperately trying to obtain Legitimacy. And they don't have anything to trade for it, so they're desperately trying to fake it or steal it or guilt (HA!) Trump into giving it to them for free.

Hence the "the judges (authority) dismissed the cases," [which means the holy magic law-priests think Biden's win is legitimate]!" and the "Please please please concede" [the ultimate legitimacy], or "Trump not helping Biden transition before the vote is counted is harming America" [guilt guilt plz give legitimacy plz].

Trump refusing to lay down and die must be driving them completely bugfuck nuts in private. They weren't counting on this, and now the realization that 74 million Trump Voters and a not-zero number of Biden supporters think Biden stole the election is starting to dawn on them.

What the fuck do you do when half the country thinks you stole an election blatantly in front of them -- and worse, think their votes don't count anymore?

The smug antifa types at the local polling centers don't give a shit, because again, a civil war means their commie utopia comes EVEN FASTER! The buck toothed sheboon and her types are too fucking stupid to realize how bad shit looks, because hey hey, they're winning and that's all that matters, right?!

But the Pelosis of the world? They want legitimacy, and they want it fucking FAST. Because having some legitimacy before January is the only thing going to keep at least a small percentage of those 74 million people from going full on Kipling on them.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,

Ere the right began to hate.
Regardless of any prediction or civil war (I still doubt it short term personally), the struggle for legitimacy is real and honestly it is kind of morbidly hilarious how quickly things are devolving into a medieval sucession crisis:

>The Lord of Ohio has announced that Biden is the true King of the land!
>The Elector-Princes of the South refuse to certify the results and are putting political pressure to ensure more lesser nobles back the rightful King.
>Pretender Biden crowned himself with a new title, "The office of the President-Elect" a de jure title he made up to gain more legitimacy
>Disputed King Trump is currently resorting his levees to ensure his commanders are loyal to him and will not defect to Pretender Biden
>Factions are pushing out propaganda to convince the functionaries of Govrenment (the judical system) that their faction candidate is the rightful King.


I guess this is what happens when too much of your government is based on implied traditions based on precedent and then those traditions are slowly undermined.
 
Regardless of any prediction or civil war (I still doubt it short term personally), the struggle for legitimacy is real and honestly it is kind of morbidly hilarious how quickly things are devolving into a medieval sucession crisis:

>The Lord of Ohio has announced that Biden is the true King of the land!
>The Elector-Princes of the South refuse to certify the results and are putting political pressure to ensure more lesser nobles back the rightful King.
>Pretender Biden crowned himself with a new title, "The office of the President-Elect" a de jure title he made up to gain more legitimacy
>Disputed King Trump is currently resorting his levees to ensure his commanders are loyal to him and will not defect to Pretender Biden
>Factions are pushing out propaganda to convince the functionaries of Govrenment (the judical system) that their faction candidate is the rightful King.


I guess this is what happens when too much of your government is based on implied traditions based on precedent and then those traditions are slowly undermined.
Honestly, I think disputes like this are good. At least this is much better than
>globalist cabal candidate rules over you, deal with it

At least power distance is a lot less than most other countries where they can't do this.
 
Regardless of any prediction or civil war (I still doubt it short term personally), the struggle for legitimacy is real and honestly it is kind of morbidly hilarious how quickly things are devolving into a medieval sucession crisis:

>The Lord of Ohio has announced that Biden is the true King of the land!
>The Elector-Princes of the South refuse to certify the results and are putting political pressure to ensure more lesser nobles back the rightful King.
>Pretender Biden crowned himself with a new title, "The office of the President-Elect" a de jure title he made up to gain more legitimacy
>Disputed King Trump is currently resorting his levees to ensure his commanders are loyal to him and will not defect to Pretender Biden
>Factions are pushing out propaganda to convince the functionaries of Govrenment (the judical system) that their faction candidate is the rightful King.


I guess this is what happens when too much of your government is based on implied traditions based on precedent and then those traditions are slowly undermined.

See this shit wouldn't have happened if we had given preference to forming the empire title on the prior generation. Told you bastards to stock up on piety but noooo we had to waste that shit on a holy war. You're not saving byzantium anyway they never survive the seljuk hordes! Fucking Elective Gavelkind. We're playing catholic next round!
 
The 1960 election was stolen, but Nixon didn't want to challenge it and cause a "constitutional crisis." The question isn't whether previous elections (presidential and downballot) were stolen, the question is the magnitude of fraud historically and whether the democratic party is actually as popular as we are led to believe.
And that my friends, is why they want Trump to shut up and why they're pushing for Biden to be inaugurated.
 
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