2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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make_it_so said:
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I ain't telling, but I do know for a fact that a kiwi is also in that forum, if only because of this quote.

2022 and 2024 is going to be complete devastation for the Democratic party. Thats my prediction.

This "Victory" is a poisoned chalice. This election actually strengthened the Republican party and pissed them off and if anything Democrats just seem mentally and spiritually exhausted.

If Democrats won you can't tell.
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Buttigieg2020 said:
If you have to reference Nate Silver to make a point, you’ve already gone full retard.
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People there are full-on cope and/or outright deluding themselves. Shit is kinda hilarious and terrifying at the same time.

The House has a Democratic majority. The entirety of the US House is up for reelection in the midterms, so whether or not there are losses in the present Democratic majority is not that important so long as a majority is retained. It's not a Senate situation where valuable seats will be out of reach for years after they've been won or lost. If they manage to keep the House in 2022, good. If not, they'll still have it until that time comes.

A victory is still a victory, whether it's total or not. Compared to the alternative of four more years of Trump, this is by no means a defeat.
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100% agree that the Florida Latino vote is a lost cause. I think Florida and Ohio might be out of reach for Democrats. Anything can and will be framed as socialism. Also apparently the Florida DNC is incompetent. I think blue Texas is more likely.

Giving Amy Mcgrath ungodly amounts of money to run against Mitch McConnell was also a terrible idea. She was as conservative as a Democrat could reasonably be but it wasn’t enough. Same goes for the likes of John Kaisch.

I think Democrats need to replicate Stacey Abrams et al process and ground game as party policy. Go for voter suppressed demographics as well. Try to replicate the process in heavily black states like Louisiana and Mississippi. This might help with getting house seats at first, and then maybe progress into something more substantial.

Also take direction for online coverage from the likes of AOC et al. If only to secure the Gen Z vote.

Blaming BLM and the protests is stupid, if anything I wouldn’t be surprised if it spurred voter registration for the Democrats, who would have needed it more than the Republicans did.

If Dems for some reason want to start appealing to the right, they may have to start being dishonest and willing to play dirty like the Republicans. If Obamacare, which is the definition of compromise, is seen as socialism. Then trying to reach into that world of delusion will require silver tounges. Because the words “Free Trade” and “Open Borders” are not in vogue right now in certain states, it’s possibly “Defund the Police” tier or worse.
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Syaoran Li said:
The only impeached American politician who's as brazenly corrupt as Whitmer was Andrew Johnson, who was literally acquitted by a single vote. If the thresholds for impeachment at the state level only require a majority and not strictly a supermajority, she's fucked.
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Unfortunately, (well, just in this case) it's a 2/3 majority to uphold impeachment.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
So we now know why the left has been kinda silent about all this shit.

They don't have a defense. They can't defend this. Their arguments are pants on head retarded.

This bodes well if it gets up to the SCOTUS.
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And I've heard these points before from deranged twitter users and MATI kiwis. I just assumed an actual honest to god lawyer would have better arguments than an internet shitposter.
 
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NJBear said:
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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4048973
https://archive.vn/cuRDj

BTW the Giuliani/Ellis team seems to be doing a good job.
 
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iRON-mAn said:
And I've heard these points before from deranged twitter users and MATI kiwis. I just assumed an actual honest to god lawyer would have better arguments than an internet shitposter.
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So did I... I am not shifting Trump's odds yet, its still only a 40% chance of a nominal success by my measure, because I am withholding judgement that they are holding back their good argumentation for SCOTUS. Yet, I cannot deny this is a bad showing and a -really- bad sign for their end if I am forced to assume 4d chess on their part.
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
She's in a difficult position. Most people in Taiwan are very worried about Biden. On the other hand, it probably makes sense to try to curry favor with him if it looks like he's going to win.
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She's probably going to ape what Israel is doing, suck up to Biden and if trump wins, throw themselves at trump's feet and beg forgiveness.
 
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Nahash said:
She's probably going to ape what Israel is doing, suck up to Biden and if trump wins, throw themselves at trump's feet and beg forgiveness.
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Israel and Taiwan are the only two nations who Trump is likely to forgive due to their uniquely precarious situations. Britain... Britain is FUCKED though. If Trump gets in he will wring them for every pound of flesh he can after Boris stabbed him in the back.
 
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Nahash said:
She's probably going to ape what Israel is doing, suck up to Biden and if trump wins, throw themselves at trump's feet and beg forgiveness.
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Well yeah, But so will everyone else. I bet Boris is going to grovel extra hard. The difference is that the UK and Israel aren't under imminent threat of an invasion they've got no chance of resisting without US help.
 
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More of the same from defense counsel, the harm was inflicted in such a way that it is not redressable for anyone haha aren't we clever
 
Puerto Pollo said:
Should Trump lose this we now have the proof that one generation of diversity hires will bring you President Camacho. President Sonichu as well.
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It's closer to authoritarian country kangaroo court.

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People there are full-on cope and/or outright deluding themselves. Shit is kinda hilarious and terrifying at the same time.
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I wouldn't call what Stacey Abrams is doing "ground game" lmao
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
Well yeah, But so will everyone else. I bet Boris is going to grovel extra hard. The difference is that the UK and Israel aren't under imminent threat of an invasion they've got no chance of resisting without US help.
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Israel is in an active state of cold/sometimes hot war with its surrounding neighbors. Plus U.S. foreign policy has been decidedly pro Israel. Militarily, its also a massive staging ground if we need to do anything in the area. So it is historical and strategic value that would make Trump willing to accept it arguing that it buddied up with Biden because they needed to maintain that connection.
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
Well yeah, But so will everyone else. I bet Boris is going to grovel extra hard. The difference is that the UK and Israel aren't under imminent threat of an invasion they've got no chance of resisting without US help.
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Can't believe the Mexican President was the only smart world leader in the world and just adopted a wait and see approach to the elections.
 
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Pampered Degenerate said:
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What giving women the vote has led to.
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Why it's almost like the book of Genesis warned you about that.

[3:1] Now the serpent was more crafty than any other wild animal that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
[3:2] The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden;
[3:3] but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, nor shall you touch it, or you shall die. '"
[3:4] But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die;
[3:5] for God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
[3:6] So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate.
[3:7] Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.
[3:8] They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
[3:9] But the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?"
[3:10] He said, "I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."
[3:11] He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?"
[3:12] The man said, "The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate."
[3:13] Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent tricked me, and I ate."
[3:14] The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you among all animals and among all wild creatures; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life.
[3:15] I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will strike your head, and you will strike his heel."
[3:16] To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pangs in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you."
[3:17] And to the man he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree about which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
[3:18] thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field.
[3:19] By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return."
[3:20] The man named his wife Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
[3:21] And the LORD God made garments of skins for the man and for his wife, and clothed them.
[3:22] Then the LORD God said, "See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--
[3:23] therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken.
[3:24] He drove out the man; and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim, and a sword flaming and turning to guard the way to the tree of life.
 
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