2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[The High Prophet of Truth]

He had a mental breakdown after people called him a pedo due to him being a pedo apologist and he recently came back having learned nothing.

I thought it was because he flipped and gave out his address during a slapfight.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I never understood why Luther and the Protestants get such a good rep when compared to the Catholics in the American education system these days.

Even at their most traditionalist, the Catholics are more liberal and less morally austere than traditionalist Protestants. The goddamn Puritans were hardliner traditionalist Protestants who believed the Catholics were somehow crypto-pagans and that pagans were crypto-Satanists.

Most of the Religious Right's roots can be traced to the Puritans or the Great Revival in the 19th Century that tried to emulate the Puritans.

Plus there's a lot more non-White Catholics than there are Protestants and that a lot of the White Catholics in America like the Irish, Italians, Poles, and Hungarians were initially not considered White by the Anglo Protestant ruling classes of the 19th Century and early 20th Century

Is your implied question meant to be rhetorical? You answer it pretty well in your post.

I will disagree with the idea that ultratradcaths are somehow more liberal than trad prots, but that's an aside. Otherwise, you've said it: Puritanism is at America's cultural foundation, and Evangelicalism-- a massively popular movement that takes up a lot of space in the American Christosphere in particular-- has its roots in Puritanism. The influence Evangelicalism has had is very interesting, even. The only Catholic that has anything resembling an accurate understanding of their religion is either a priest, an adult convert (nerd), a tradcath, or a literal scholar. People who are "raised Catholic" and some who are still churchgoing Catholics will speak of Catholicism as though it were another Protestant denomination and will speak of Protestant paradigms and epistemology when talking about Catholicism.

That is how pervasive Evangelical influence is.

Why would they not have a bias towards Luther and the Protestants, and why would they not disseminate the resultant slanted understanding of the Protestant Reformation for generations in their own school systems? Even accounting for Current Year +0 to +5 (or, more broadly, anywhere from the late 2000s), why would an increasingly religiously disaffected Gen X, Millennial generation, and Gen Z care about the particularities of the Protestant Reformation beyond the blurb in a unit of world history or whatever else they're told by those who have or have indirectly inherited anti-Catholic sentiment?

Besides, a lot of them probably think that the Catholic Church is a pedophile cabal or is otherwise ultra oppressive in the first place. I mean, put aside the sex abuse scandals which did rightful damage even if you're more likely to get sexually assaulted by a public school teacher: what do you think was the fetishization of Catholic nuns and the growth of the "naughty Catholic schoolgirl" myth/porn genre, if not the undermining of the standing of a major religious institution?

What you didn't address, in part, is that the left in its extremes hates religion, because it's a stabilizer of society. Said stability-- according to their mythology-- staves off the class revolt. It's completely irrelevant that Catholicism is largely not a "white" religion (disregarding momentarily that many of these people are too dumb to realize that Christianity as a whole is not a "white" religion)-- it is a religion, and is furthermore a religion that's part of the country's status quo. Between that, and whatever ingrained dope hits they got from reading Rationalwiki in defiance of their parents who prevented them from watching Pokemon on a Sunday morning because they had to go church, they hate Catholicism regardless.

Because back in the Reformation, the Catholic Church was undeniably corrupt. Pope Alexander VI, the Borgia Pope, fathered children and used them to advance his political ambitions.

The average Protestant doesn't know jack about any of those things.

 

[Str8Bustah]

Seneca was a Roman philosopher and stoic.

this is exactly why he was gay and bad lmao.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Rutgers did the same with Condoleezza Rice, it's pretty much par for the course.

I still reckon Rice should have run. Imagine the situation

1) Black
2) Woman
3) Lesbian (allegedly)
4) Firebreathing conservative ideologue who is opposed to all the identity politics shit

Basically, she'd have been an American Margaret Thatcher. I'm not even that concerned that she'd have stayed on the Neocon train past Iraq, though I admit there was a risk of that. Maybe she'd have ended up a Reagan Peace Through Superior Firepower type instead of a Neocon ' Let's go democratize countries on the other side of the world we've got absolutely no idea about' one.

Anyhow Thatcher was pretty interventionist and it all worked out in the end.

Actually, screw all that, she congratulated 'President' Biden and called for 'respect' and 'empathy', two words that are not programmed into my vocabulary banks.

Big Dick Move by the NV GOP if they can pull it off.
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Over the next few days, we'll get a hint of the result of the election by the number of Republican state legislatures in disputed states which do this. Though it doesn't really matter until December 13th because there'll be a lot of arm twisting either way.

So Zimbabwe. With Trump supporters as the farmers that get it the worst. That's a new one.

It's a worst-case scenario but it's not impossible. Though I suspect suburban Americans who are well armed and in the majority would win the resulting conflagration. Unlike Zimbabwean farmers who were outnumbered and outgunned by the people trying to exterminate them.

 

[Gehenna]

Wisconsin is the -only- state in play I say leans likely Trump win. Michigan has an entrenched Opposition and any actual win in it will require SCOTUS
Pennsylvania, same and has to go to SCOTUS
The RINO Brigade are out strong and hard in Georgia and Arizona so... SCOTUS
And Nevada... lol, controlled by democrats and anything there is just virtue signalling.

Wisconsin is the only state where everything (But the executive, but he doesn't count in this) goes Republican, and Wisconsin has one of the lowest rates of RINOism. Additionally, its laws are some of the least loose, you have a clear violation on film, and the state supreme court already said the very thing that DID happen is not allowed.
They were the first to announce a full audit of the vote.

Short of extreme levels of cucking even the GOP has yet to reach, Wisconsin is the only state in play which won't be a hard battle.


A shame the rest are fuckfests of epic proportions.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

How is colonialism bad but the British Empire good?

You'd be surprised how often that narrative comes along. "Muh british good cuz evul spainiard tryina convert the natives" is basically hollywood's portrayal of that age.

They always fail to mention that the anglos were indeed not converting the natives, because they were launching a campaign of genocyde instead. And also that the religion of the natives involved rutinary massed human sacrifice, which might explain precisely why the spaniards saw it as absolutely and irredimably barbaric. And that the portuguese were just fucking kidnapping and enslaving everyone. (Not that the spanish Encomienda system was much better in practice, but at least the spanish crown and missionaries tried to paliate that horror as much as possible. At least until the Bourbons came along anyway.) Funny how that always slips the fucking narrative don't it.

Also piracy is glorified by ancoms for being one of the forms of proto-communism (some of its denominations anyway, not that they'll ever tell you about the others, nor will they tell you why said denominations adopted such systems or how they worked other than "happy communist breaks the chains of capitalism and lives life of adventure", because scurvy is super good apparently) so you know... Yeah that's a fucking thing.

School is worthless.

I'd usually disagree but let's just say I'm starting to get a grip why america has such a strong homeschooling movement and horrifying academic failure rates.

That ain't no school I'm used to that's for sure.

What happened to @Senior Lexmechanic anyway? He was like @Hollywood Hulk Hogan 's tag team partner.

Lots of drama. I think it had to do with them coming out as a pedo or some shit like that.

 

[Meat Target]

They were deists, but the majority of the colonists practiced some form of catholicism, owing to the colonists coming from protestant states. Those people were protestants, anglicans, presbyterians, etc.

What are you talking about? If that were the case, America would be a precominantly Catholic country. The only English colony that would have had any significant Catholic population was Maryland. Mass Bay was Puritan (later Congregationalist), Virginia was Anglican, Pennsylvania was Quaker (named after famous Quaker William Penn), and Dutch Calvinists and Jews went to New York.

Most of the Catholics in the New World were in French and Spanish colonies.

 

[ChikN10der]

Just when we think you hit the epitome of being retarded, you seem to always outdo yourself. Not knowing the definition of the word "mad" is pretty damn dumb, man. Most preschoolers even know the meaning of that.

I know the definition of mad. It's defined as "What @Hollywood Hulk Hogan is toward the internet".
It's funny what a reliable trigger calling you mad on the internet is. I outright said what I was doing and it worked anyway.

Must be because you're so mad.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Because back in the Reformation, the Catholic Church was undeniably corrupt. Pope Alexander VI, the Borgia Pope, fathered children and used them to advance his political ambitions.

There is also the fact that the U.S.'s origins come out of protestant faiths and values. You have to have the origins of the nation be positive for the historical narrative.

1. True, the Catholic Church was corrupt but guys like John Calvin and Cotton Mather were insane despots in their own right

2. That would make sense if it weren't for the fact the Founding Fathers were mostly deist libertines and believed in a secular liberal republic as opposed to a Reformed or Protestant theocracy. The "founded on Christian values" is grossly overstated and misinterpreted by traditionalist conservatives

We were founded as a Christian majority country and the values of Christianity were a major influence on American culture, but we weren't founded as a specifically Christian nation in the same way that Spain was endorsed by the Catholic Church or England was endorsed by the Anglican Church.

There's also the fact that if the education system's become compromised and wants to demoralize the American public then it sounds counterproductive to emphasize the Protestant roots of the early American settlers as a good thing. If anything, they'd want to demonize the Protestants more and give the Catholics more of a pass since there's the anti-immigrant sentiment you can play up.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Just when we think you hit the epitome of being retarded, you seem to always outdo yourself. Not knowing the definition of the word "mad" is pretty damn dumb, man. Most preschoolers even know the meaning of that.

So are you in the return to Hulkimania phase in 99 or you're still Hollywood?

 

[General Disarray]

Fucking great. Wisconsin has been quieter, likely because the DEMOCRATS consider it a loss. They pulled the whole "bring in ballots after election day" thing, in a state where thats illegal, ON CAMERA, and in a state where the state Supreme Court said "Fuck you lol no".

We are just waiting for the WISC to take the case and ream them out, really.

The exact same thing that happened in this election happened when Evers was running for Governor: found ballots.

With the race for governor hanging in the balance, Milwaukee city officials turned over more than 45,000 uncounted absentee ballots for official verification shortly after midnight.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/06/milwaukee-county-has-more-than-50-000-uncounted-absentee-ballots/1916187002/

https://archive.vn/wip/IPvnN

Our Supreme Court voted 5-3 to not extend the mail-in ballot deadline this go-round.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Wisconsin is the -only- state in play I say leans likely Trump win. Michigan has an entrenched Opposition and any actual win in it will require SCOTUS
Pennsylvania, same and has to go to SCOTUS
The RINO Brigade are out strong and hard in Georgia and Arizona so... SCOTUS
And Nevada... lol, controlled by democrats and anything there is just virtue signalling.

Wisconsin is the only state where everything (But the executive, but he doesn't count in this) goes Republican, and Wisconsin has one of the lowest rates of RINOism. Additionally, its laws are some of the least loose, you have a clear violation on film, and the state supreme court already said the very thing that DID happen is not allowed.
They were the first to announce a full audit of the vote.

Short of extreme levels of cucking even the GOP has yet to reach, Wisconsin is the only state in play which won't be a hard battle.


A shame the rest are fuckfests of epic proportions.

The fact that Trump basically needs nearly ALL these states to go his way AT SOME POINT makes me not like his odds in the slightest.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I know the definition of mad. It's defined as "What @Hollywood Hulk Hogan is toward the internet".
It's funny what a reliable trigger calling you mad on the internet is. I outright said what I was doing and it worked anyway.

Must be because you're so mad.

What would I be mad about? Trump lost and his cult, including you, is seething mad and trying to cope by claiming voting fraud. It's hysterical

Me being confused because you claim to know what a word means when it's obvious you do not does not constitute "mad", but whatever floats your boat, dude.

 

[Syaoran Li]

What are you talking about? If that were the case, America would be a precominantly Catholic country. The only English colony that would have had any significant Catholic population was Maryland. Mass Bay was Puritan (later Congregationalist), Virginia was Anglican, Pennsylvania was Quaker (named after famous Quaker William Penn), and Dutch Calvinists and Jews went to New York.

Most of the Catholics in the New World were in French and Spanish colonies.

New York was mostly settled by Dutch Calvinists but Jews mostly went to the Southern colonies and the majority of American Jews were Southerners prior to the American Civil War

New York didn't become the haven of American Jewry until around the 1870's when you had large droves of Ashkenazi Jews emigrate from Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Russian Empire to flee persecution and seek work in the then-booming city of New York.

The majority of Antebellum-era Jews in America were Southerners in the Gulf Coast of Mississippi and Louisiana as well as the Tidewater regions of the Carolinas (and Virginia to a lesser extent)

Oddly enough, they were majority Sephardic Jews and were of a very conservative bent. Most of them were in support of the Confederacy and against abolitionism.

The idea of the American Jew being a liberal Ashkenazi from New York is very much the result of the waves of immigration in the 1880's after the war

 

[Gehenna]

The fact that Trump basically needs nearly ALL these states to go his way AT SOME POINT makes me not like his odds in the slightest.

Actually, he only needs three. He needs half.

Pennsylvania is the big one, then either Georgia, Arizona, or Michigan. Any third one will nudge him over or deadlock it.



Also this is what, the ninth or tenth time someone has had to tell you that you are flat out wrong? Perhaps you should consider lurking more.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

What are you talking about? If that were the case, America would be a precominantly Catholic country. The only English colony that would have had any significant Catholic population was Maryland. Mass Bay was Puritan (later Congregationalist), Virginia was Anglican, Pennsylvania was Quaker (named after famous Quaker William Penn), and Dutch Calvinists and Jews went to New York.

Most of the Catholics in the New World were in French and Spanish colonies.

Just changed it, how the fuck did I write catholicism instead of protestantism?

 

[Big Nasty]

Back when I joined the Farms, I think Hogan was the only tolerated gimmick account.

Otherwise, gimmick accounts were bannable.

 

[Gehenna]

Lets do some math:
"Officially" Trump is at 232 electoral votes, meaning he needs 38 to win outright, or 37 to have it go to delegations.
Pennsylvania = 20
Michigan & Georgia = 16
Arizona = 11
Wisconsin = 10
Nevada = 6


So, he either needs to Sweep Michigan OR Georgia and the three lowest, Michigan AND Georgia and any 1, or Pennsylvania and any 2 combo BUT Wisconsin & Nevada (That'd have him at 36).

 

[Jarolleon]

War of Attrition only works in Russia...
burning through your supplies with high speed is fine as long as you crush your enemies. it only becomes a problem once you move into the endless wasteland of russia-

Or your enemy doesn't buckle immediately, like the Entente powers in World War 1, or the Union in the Civil War. I remember Carl Benjamin of all people arguing that Europe's rough terrain and skill in fortification prevented rush tactics from working for millennia, and that's why we ended up less fatalistic than the Middle East, whose their lives were at the whim of whatever conqueror achieved critical mass at the time.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

Back when I joined the Farms, I think Hogan was the only tolerated gimmick account.

Otherwise, gimmick accounts were bannable.

I don't think he counts as a gimmick account now. Hulkmania has turned into BidenFest 2020.