2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Meat Target]

No one really disputed that there's election fraud in Venezuela until Rudy said it. One of the people claiming it seems a bit questionable doesn't change that.

Now I suppose we're going to see loads of articles in the media about how elections in Venezuela are perfectly fine from the same outlets who've been saying the opposite for decades.

"Libertarian Justice" is when they get sent to prison for child abuse.

Looks like the clown the Trump campaign are rolling out with an affidavit about 'election fraud in Venezuela' is a Leamsy Salazar. Salazar is a CIA spy who is suspected of being involved in the poisoning of Hugo Chavez, for whom he acted as a bodyguard. Since then, he has been involved in inventing various stupid conspiracy theories about the Venezuelan government's involvement in drug smuggling from Colombia which is actually supervised by his CIA bosses.

He may be living around Royal Palm Beach, Florida.

Imagine, in the same breath, simping for Chavez while claiming you are the brave, bold defender of Our Democracy.

 

[Random Internet Person]

these people are not the masterfully competent conspirators you think they are, despite how exciting that possibility may appear in deranged mind

You underestimate that bulls hitting your way through things can only get you so far. There has to be some kind of plan at some point. And the thing is we’ve gone from the plan to the ad libbing on both sides.

 

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No one really disputed that there's election fraud in Venezuela until Rudy said it. One of the people claiming it seems a bit questionable doesn't change that.

Now I suppose we're going to see loads of articles in the media about how elections in Venezuela are perfectly fine from the same outlets who've been saying the opposite for decades.

The funny thing is that the parlimentary election that they're citing as an example of 'voter fraud' is one the opposition had an unlikely win in... but they're rolling out this CIA goon to pretend that the Venezuelan government was somehow using these voter machines to do fraud. If Salazar saw any 'election fraud', it was for his CIA buddies against the Bolivarians.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Let me provide you a realistic reasoning that it won't be as bad as this year.

First, lack of Covid. Oh yes, the obvious rebuttal is that they will just conjure a new thing or reuse covid. The problem is that the federal government has absolutely no say in how elections are run. The state governments are, and every state save Nevada involved in this clusterfuck is republican. This leads to,

Second, Trump isn't just dissappearing. Neither is he going to prison. They can try, but Trump can make that go on forever. So, we have Trump still existent, and rallying his supporters. All 71 million of them. That is a LOT of pressure he can place on state legislatures who rely on those votes, which leads to,

Third, There WILL BE election reform. Georgia already dips its toes into it due to realizing how well they are gonna get fucked at the ballot box by both sides. Trump's continual fire, the risk of being permanently shut out of power, and the simple fact that this is a clusterfuck that needs addressing means it will be so.


In short, the system won't become more secure because it suddenly grew morals. Its going to become more secure because in how glaring it was, it ensured that no result BUT election reform can occur. And the federal government doesn't get a say in that.

See above, they kinda -have- to. Its either that, or Trump leads a train on them and a brand, shiny new legislature takes its place.

Nah, this is the kind of thinking that lets below average milquetoast Republican incumbents squat in a seat and let catastrophe whirl around them as they are safe. It's the same kind of hooting and cheering logic that thinks that the Republicans dragging the social media and tech giants into congress is anything other than "see, I'm doing something!" theater.

To your first point, the politicians aren't the lynchpin of things like COVID hysteria, it's the media. Let me ask you something. Everyone seems convinced that the network media is going to collapse from no TDS to bank on if Trump leaves office. Do you think they won't jump to something else to sensationalize and maintain viewership? They're already making sure the predictive programming is in place and people are ready to accept the new normal. Given that COVID was the lynchpin reason behind removing soo much of our election security and that if Trump leaves office it's gonna be one of the few things that the media can harp on to maintain viewers, why would it ever go away? Look at the states doing the most awful COVID garbage, it's all dictated from the governorship. A single office determined by a statewide election. Praytell, how are those states going to unseat these types when they have election fraud machines and election officials set in place to ensure their seats?

To your second point, sure, Trump branching off and becoming some kind of media mogul to supplant Fox is great and a reasonable prediction. However, how helpful is that if we're still stuck with a bunch of entrenched RINOs and single cities controlling entire states? A media bully pulpit is only soo helpful against a fraud machine that can drop hundreds of thousands of ballots at the drop of a hat and get away with it. It would be naive to an extreme to think that not having institutional power to change anything or fight back is a stronger position. There is no stronger position than right now and losing at this point is the Republic's Manzikert, Our Diaoyucheng, Our Issus. I cannot feasibly see a way to pull out the roots of corruption through the system if this level of fraud prevails.

Third, naive. All you need is control of one city's political apparatus in certain states and you own it. The Democrats own Atlanta and have the rest of the state by the balls. If this is not overturned now, how effective are they going to be at overturning any election process changes? Look at Pennsylvania. The Supreme Court and election officials there have skirted the constitution in order to make changes that can exploited by the side with the more powerful election influence. Once again, you only need the one city to control a lot of these states and in Pennsylvania it's Philly. However, even the more minor cities like Erie, guess what, have the same issue. You are merely asserting that things must change because of how obvious the fraud is and how much bluster some of the Republican state congressmen are putting out. It's useless if they can't even stop the fraud this time because if they can prove the fraud this time then they can stop it. They absolutely can take control of the situation this time around. However if this ends up being nothing but hot air and bluster do you really think they're gonna dig their heels in the sand and fix their electoral systems once the eyes of the public have drifted away? That's another thing you're not understanding about the political pressure that is making these state legislatures act out. There is so much focus on it now that it's forcing them to act. So with the peak of pressure on them now, if they don't act on it now, why would they later. I can't see how that is a reasonable assumption to make.

The fundamental issue that all you copers aren't understanding that now is when the anti-fraud hand is the strongest. Not playing it now and not dealing with this now makes it go from a relatively even battlefield to a virtual vertical incline of an uphill battle.

I need to make sure this is driven home hard and deep. If they don't fight now while they have the advantage, all your hope is just cope.

 

[Meat Target]

these people are not the masterfully competent conspirators you think they are, despite how exciting that possibility may appear in deranged mind

I beg to differ. Consider how many bogus narratives persist to this day:

• Columbus proved the world was round in a time when everyone thought the earth was flat
• Abraham Lincoln wasn't racist
• The Germans were solely at fault for WW1
• Joe McCarthy went after Hollywood commies who dindu nuffin because he was a big poopyhead meanie
• Drumpf called white supremacists "very fine people" and colluded with Russia

History is a series of lies agreed upon. And there was a time and place where those lies were started, and they were started by people on purpose.

Sure, most of them are idealistic useful idiot NPCs, but that's a feature, not a bug.

And you use the term "conspiracy"; well, I know it's your attempt at a thought-terminating cliche, but you're not technically wrong. All you need for a "conspiracy" is: two or more parties, working in tandem, to do something illegal or illicit. That is not a high hurdle.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

is Atlanta in West Virginia, Ohio, or Montana? It's not? Then how does this apply to the specific Senate races I was talking about?

That's too short-term thinking. If they can do that in Atlanta, why wouldn't they do the same elsewhere? Why not Columbus or Cincinnati? Florida fought it off, but a different governor may have let that slide. *coughKempcough* This is much bigger than a couple of people winning/losing elections, this is cementing their rule through massive fraud and corruption.

Older Dems have made Obama their Reagan and seem heavily reluctant to leave that era while Millenials are going insane with absurdist policies. Living in the past and demanding huge change fundamentally do not go together. Old Dems love Joe, Pete, Kamala, and other new-Libs while the new ones call them shills, they cannot be more different.

They'll just do what they've always done.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

This is your brain on unfettered fear-mongering.

Have we seen any evidence in the media or from the blue checkmarks that this isn't exactly what they're planning?

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

 

[soy_king]

Well, the case here is once Atlanta is secured, they move to the next state. How many more do they need to assert dominance? Then, they can go after all their pet projects:

• Hate speech laws
• Chipping away at the Second Amendment
• Statehood to DC and Puerto Rico
• Gaining lists of those who supported, worked with, or donated to Donald Trump while he was in office, even making maps of it
• The Trust and Reconciliation Commission
• Reparations to minority groups
• Tearing down Trump’s border wall like it’s Berlin
• Bailouts to every city and state that fought Trump in regards to...anything
• Bailouts to those who were affected by riots by having a bill for damages in the “holy shit” range
• A bunch of other shit that’s not off the top of my head.

That’s the long game being played. And to Democrats, the question is “how long until we reach utopia”?

This is all assuming that the GA legislature, Supreme Court, and Governor sit on their hands for the next two years. Do you really believe that? Do you really believe that they would willingly want to lose their own jobs because they hate the Orange Man, and will fuck themselves over even after he's gone? As for your other doomerisms:

• Hate speech laws are unconstitutional. They would literally need to abrogate decades of federal precedent, and that would almost immediately be constitutionally challenged.
• They can't chip away at the 2nd Amendment on a federal level without risking massive litigation and serious reversals by the (still conservative) SCOTUS. At the state level, that's another matter, but those are only around because they're still hasn't been a serious constitutional challenge to 2A post-Heller.
• For DC to become a state, they'd need to enact an amendment, which requires 2/3 of the states to ratify. Dems don't have that. As for PR, they should've become a state a long time ago. The Democrats believe that PR will vote blue because the Jibarito immigrants in the US are blue voters. That's not necessarily true. PR is fairly conservative, and has been governed by the GOP affiliate (and pro-Statehood) party since 2008. There is no real guarantee that PR will vote blue because they're "brown."
• That's going to happen anyways, but within the private sphere. Any government attempt at drawing up lists will be challenged (and overturned) in the courts for being blatantly unconstitutional, or resisted by the side with guns (same goes for a massive gun "buy-back" scheme).
• See above.
• Some attempts at reparashuns will happen, but the numbers the joggers are demanding will guarantee to bankrupt this country and turn the dollar into a fancy slip of paper. No one in the elites (Europe, China, and the Middle East included) wants this to happen, because that will mean all of their US assets will become practically valueless.
• "Who built the cages, Joe?"
• Bailouts will happen, and they will very likely piss off red state voters and suburban taxpayers even more. Democrats are on very shaky ground nationally, and any serious bailouts will anger the populace in districts where they're still at risk of being kicked out.
• See above.

I'm not saying all your fears are unfounded, but this isn't the end, not by a long shot. The next four years will be a shit show, but imagine what will happen if Trump wins, the Democrats will continue to subvert him and cut off their and everybody else's noses just to spite Trump's face? If Trump wins in court, the Democrats will reeeeeee that this was a stolen election, and make the next four years a living hell by tanking the economy even further. As this election has shown, people are very stupid, and attach blame to the man at the top rather than the morons actually breaking everything. If Biden's the man on top, the Democrats can no longer blame Orange Man for everything and actually have people believe them, just like they tried to blame Bush for everything in Barry's first term. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.

 

[Meat Target]

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Say, didn't someone share something earlier ITT saying exactly that, albeit it was written in German?

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Say, didn't someone share something earlier ITT saying exactly that, albeit it was written in German?

That's when the whole thing started, and everybody called it a QAnon larp.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Say, didn't someone share something earlier ITT saying exactly that, albeit it was written in German?

someone also posted vid of guy burning trump ballots

 

[HandsomeDan]

This is all assuming that the GA legislature, Supreme Court, and Governor sit on their hands for the next two years. Do you really believe that? Do you really believe that they would willingly want to lose their own jobs because they hate the Orange Man, and will fuck themselves over even after he's gone? As for your other doomerisms:

• Hate speech laws are unconstitutional. They would literally need to abrogate decades of federal precedent, and that would almost immediately be constitutionally challenged.
• They can't chip away at the 2nd Amendment on a federal level without risking massive litigation and serious reversals by the (still conservative) SCOTUS. At the state level, that's another matter, but those are only around because they're still hasn't been a serious constitutional challenge to 2A post-Heller.
• For DC to become a state, they'd need to enact an amendment, which requires 2/3 of the states to ratify. Dems don't have that. As for PR, they should've become a state a long time ago. The Democrats believe that PR will vote blue because the Jibarito immigrants in the US are blue voters. That's not necessarily true. PR is fairly conservative, and has been governed by the GOP affiliate (and pro-Statehood) party since 2008. There is no real guarantee that PR will vote blue because they're "brown."
• That's going to happen anyways, but within the private sphere. Any government attempt at drawing up lists will be challenged (and overturned) in the courts for being blatantly unconstitutional, or resisted by the side with guns (same goes for a massive gun "buy-back" scheme).
• See above.
• Some attempts at reparashuns will happen, but the numbers the joggers are demanding will guarantee to bankrupt this country and turn the dollar into a fancy slip of paper. No one in the elites (Europe, China, and the Middle East included) wants this to happen, because that will mean all of their US assets will become practically valueless.
• "Who built the cages, Joe?"
• Bailouts will happen, and they will very likely piss off red state voters and suburban taxpayers even more. Democrats are on very shaky ground nationally, and any serious bailouts will anger the populace in districts where they're still at risk of being kicked out.
• See above.

I'm not saying all your fears are unfounded, but this isn't the end, not by a long shot. The next four years will be a shit show, but imagine what will happen if Trump wins, the Democrats will continue to subvert him and cut off their and everybody else's noses just to spite Trump's face? If Trump wins in court, the Democrats will reeeeeee that this was a stolen election, and make the next four years a living hell by tanking the economy even further. As this election has shown, people are very stupid, and attach blame to the man at the top rather than the morons actually breaking everything. If Biden's the man on top, the Democrats can no longer blame Orange Man for everything and actually have people believe them, just like they tried to blame Bush for everything in Barry's first term. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.

I understand and appreciate your thoughtful points detailing the legal hurdles to achieve their marxist evil goals, but all of your points hinge upon the "law" being upheld and enforced. I would say the current events are demonstrating the law is only as good as who will actually enforce it and the bias of individual political judges can very easily disregard the law. I am not as optimistic as you are on this.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

The site is being strange with me right now (using Tor), so my apologies if this has already been posted:

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/sidney-powell-fires-back-at-tucker-carlson-heres-what-really-happened/

It appears that Tucker Carlson flat out lied last night on his show. Powell did email a previously unrevealed affidavit to him in response to his demands for more evidence.

video related:

 

[Meat Target]

That's when the whole thing started, and everybody called it a QAnon larp.

At this point, if anyone dismisses something is a "QAnon conspiracy theory", and it turns out to be true, that person should be forced to have a tooth ripped out with pliers. No anesthetic.

 

[soy_king]

That's too short-term thinking. If they can do that in Atlanta, why wouldn't they do the same elsewhere? Why not Columbus or Cincinnati? Florida fought it off, but a different governor may have let that slide. *coughKempcough* This is much bigger than a couple of people winning/losing elections, this is cementing their rule through massive fraud and corruption.

You're not entirely wrong, but you're not entirely right either. For them to get Florida and Ohio back, they'd need to actually win there by appealing to the voter bases there (which they clearly failed to do this time around) AND overturn their very strict election laws, which someone mentioned way back were made incredibly tight post their election kerfuffles in 2000 and 2004. Florida will very likely turn more red as the Democrats continue to flirt with socialism and alienate the Cuban, Venezuelan, and Colombians of South Florida. Ohio and West Virginia will continue to suffer as the Democrats abandon the US working class in favor of neoliberalist globalism. And they will continue to alienate the West as they keep pushing for gun control and higher taxes. Montana is only liable to flip if the rats keep fleeing Commiefornia, which is likely, but I don't think enough will leave in two years to definitively flip the state.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Hoping it's true, we need a good RINO hunt.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Say, didn't someone share something earlier ITT saying exactly that, albeit it was written in German?

I think it was just that they were seized.

 

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I mean, the US military denies this.

The company whose server was supposedly seized has proved they had no such servers in Germany.

The only sources for this shit are Indian fake news sites.

But yeah, this dried up old hag and the Mormon faggot CLEARLY must have sekret evidence. Going to be pretty funny if they disbar the stupid bitch.

 

[-4ZURE-]

They'll just do what they've always done.

I cannot like due to weird internet, so I will say it here