Kelly Lenza / LividLipids / softbodytendermind / ass_child / photopotamus - "Radical body liberationist”, Intentionally Repulsive, Uber woke middle-aged SJW influencer wannabe, doxed her former therapist for getting WLS, ate her way to heart failure

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Seeing the photos of her younger self I'd almost bet money that she was most likely Sexually abused/Raped at some point during her childhood or adolescence.
That makes those naked photos of her kids even more horrifying. Not everyone who is abused ends up being abusive themselves -- but it happens in a significant percentage of cases. She should use her time in therapy to resolve whatever it is that caused her to turn into an insufferable cunt. Because even if she isn't abusing her own kids (or purposely attracting the attention of people who would like to abuse her kids) -- her moodiness / anger at the world is creating a toxic environment for them.
 
Damn, this took a turn for the somber now that there are potential signs of her being abused, rather than her just being a natural born cunt. Unfortunately I don't know if she would engage with therapy enough in order to confront what may have happened. Instead she wants to be validated in the behaviors she has adopted as a coping mechanism, and will dox her therapist when she doesn't kowtow her own personal life decisions to Kelly's lunacy.
 
I don’t think Kelly is the type of person who if she were sexually abused she would keep it to herself, based on her being open about her narc mother being abusive to her growing up and putting a lot of pressure on her to stay thin. Here are some alternatives that I think might be more likely on why she gained weight after high school:
-What she claims about her mom is true and she is naturally prone to obesity. She may have even been mildly anorexic as a teenager and once she got out from under her mom’s thumb she ate like shit as a fuck you to her
-Some sort of emotional trauma that wasn’t directly abuse but Kelly is a baby and couldn’t handle it. Maybe like learning something that shattered her sense of self, or a severe academic, career or romantic failure or incident.
-She started taking antidepressants to treat the depression caused by the childhood bullying from both her peers and parents and ballooned up from both the side effects of the medication directly and from eating a lot worse because they made it so she no longer cared about maintaining weight
 
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That makes those naked photos of her kids even more horrifying. Not everyone who is abused ends up being abusive themselves -- but it happens in a significant percentage of cases. She should use her time in therapy to resolve whatever it is that caused her to turn into an insufferable cunt. Because even if she isn't abusing her own kids (or purposely attracting the attention of people who would like to abuse her kids) -- her moodiness / anger at the world is creating a toxic environment for them.
There is research that says abused children growing up to be abusers is basically a myth that does nothing but harm victims. People molest children because they are scum, not because they were molested. Perverts will pull that little pop psychology nugget out of their back pocket for sympathy after they're caught raping toddlers and society has been buying it for decades.
 
There is research that says abused children growing up to be abusers is basically a myth that does nothing but harm victims. People molest children because they are scum, not because they were molested. Perverts will pull that little pop psychology nugget out of their back pocket for sympathy after they're caught raping toddlers and society has been buying it for decades.

I disagree that it's a total myth, I've seen it often enough to know it does happen (although it's less common with sexual abuse than with physical, verbal or psychological abuse). Even then when it is generational it's often the type that isn't overt sexual abuse in the traditional sense so much as the type that results from being raised with totally inappropriate or insufficient boundaries or the type that isn't necessarily inflicted directly onto a child but enables it (like they expose a kid to sexualized behavior, fail to dissuade them from mimicking it because they don't see the problem, then doing fuck all when it attracts actual diddlers and groomers because "well they are mature for their age". Times when a kid acts sexually inappropriate without understanding what they're doing because they learned stuff they shouldn't due to extreme lack of privacy in the household. Or women becoming bitter towards their daughters and pimping them out or otherwise allowing them to be humiliated or exploited because "she should appreciate the attention" or living through them vicariously and thinking they're doing them a favor because their own attitudes are so warped, which may or may not be a result of abuse).

Hopefully I'm getting across what I'm trying to say, which is that I do think sexual abuse can often be a self perpetuating cycle, but mostly because it can cause a warped sense of what is appropriate and thus often results in overlooking or enabling stuff that otherwise wouldn't be allowed to happen (whether to consider this outright participation is subjective and probably case by case anyway). The people who actually diddle kids know perfectly fucking well it's unacceptable (barring extremes like being raised in an incest cult or profound mental retardation) are just scum plain and simple, and the "well they're victims too uwu" is criminal lawyer cope that became pop psych bullshit, on that we do agree.

Kelly obviously has serious boundary issues and seems to be bitter and vindictive towards her own kids. Whether this is a result of being abused herself is her business, but she's spent enough time in therapy that her treatment of her daughters is not really excusable regardless. Hopefully if Kelly's treatment of her kids (namely failing at appropriate boundaries with regards to nudity or sexual behavior, priming them to accept unhealthy affection from whoever will give it, and blasting personal pics/info all over the internet to any groomer who might take advantage) leads to something fucked up happening the father will grow a pair and step in before it gets out of control.

These terminally-online woke deviants stop being funny in a hurry when you think too hard about the impacts on their children... *sigh* I might reread the posts about her getting ass blasted at her therapist, being hilariously racist through desperate unsolicited efforts to be seen as totally not racist, and thinking it's a disorder to deny yourself bedtime fried chicken to remind myself the funny outweighs the depressing.
 
There is research that says abused children growing up to be abusers is basically a myth that does nothing but harm victims. People molest children because they are scum, not because they were molested. Perverts will pull that little pop psychology nugget out of their back pocket for sympathy after they're caught raping toddlers and society has been buying it for decades.
I definitely think some do grow up to be abusers, but likely they were narcs or sociopaths themselves so they merely get off being the one doing the abusing. I agree, though, that this idea that you can become an abuser yourself if you've been abused is probably the main reason why people are very reluctant to talk about what happened to them. No one wants other people to start wondering if they are destined to be a pedo.
 
Whether abused children grow up to abuse is a myth or not is sort of academic. The problem is that children who grow up with abuse normalize a certain amount of it. Let's remember also that abuse is a spectrum. Abuse doesn't have to be physical torture or starvation. Subtle sexual weirdness can be more than enough, but it can also be something the parent thinks is totally normal in a family, because it was normal in their family.

There are sick psychopaths in the world who get off on hurting children, regardless of whether or not that happened to them. But what's far more prevalent is people not realizing that certain behaviours are harmful to their children, or who resent the work required to change, because it happened to them, so maybe it's not that bad??

And then there's people like Kelly, who allow their naked children to appear on photos on the internet. I hesitate to say it's a "gray" area, because it's pretty gross, but I can imagine an argument being made that children running around naked isn't inherently harmful to the children. The fact that photographic evidence of children running around naked exists is also not inherently harmful to the children-- ie the old trope of embarrassing family photos of children in bathtubs. And maybe there's an argument to be made that you could potentially do damage by being too neurotic about your children, and making sure they're always covered up when cameras are around, etc.

But Kelly is an adult who knows what kind of shit happens on the internet. She is the one choosing, through her own volition, to post photos online where her children are mostly-naked. She is the one choosing to do this knowing full well that her children are too young to understand, and too young to consent. (This is important to me because children and consent and their parents gets complicated. I think there is a WORLD of difference between a parent keeping a photo of their naked child in the bathtub in a private album, and a parent posting a photo like that on a public social media account, and if you're a well-adjusted person, the difference is obvious.)

I don't know if Kelly's treatment of her children is related to whatever abuse she may or may not have experienced herself. But she should know that posting naked photos of your kid online is not okay. She should know that it's weird. But she seems to think it's normal, and that's what's troubling.
 
Every pedophile I've come across claims (note: CLAIMS) that he was sexually abused as a child. But this doesn't mean that everyone who was sexually abused as a child becomes a pedophile. There's plenty of people (most of them women, tbf) who were sexually abused yet don't become child molesters.
 
I've always thought Kelly's behavior was a delayed adolescent rebellion, because her mother was so allegedly obsessed with appearances that Kelly didnt dare act out of turn while she lived with her. Now she's acting out in a way she never could as a teenager.

Could she have been sexually abused? Sure. But I feel like if she had been she'd be screeching it from the rooftops like she does everything else in her life.
 
IMO. Kelly is just an a-hole. It doesn't require a lot of deep analysis. Chantal, same thing. With Amberlynn, she is a narc but I do think there are a lot of contributing factors. Again, with Kelly, I think it's just natural. She was a fat body in a normal body until social media made being a deathfat "acceptable."
 
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IMO. Kelly is just an a-hole. It doesn't require a lot of deep analysis. Chantal, same thing. With Amberlynn, she is a narc but I do think there are a lot of contributing factors. Again, with Kelly, I think it's just natural. She was a fat body in a normal body until social media made being a deathfat "acceptable."
It's maybe worth noting that she became hugely obese before getting into fat acceptance - earlier in this thread there's documentation of her pre-SJW life as a furry artist (IIRC she met her husband in the furry community) and she was huge back then, too. She was also trying to lose weight in order to get weight loss surgery back then.
 
I disagree that it's a total myth, I've seen it often enough to know it does happen (although it's less common with sexual abuse than with physical, verbal or psychological abuse). Even then when it is generational it's often the type that isn't overt sexual abuse in the traditional sense so much as the type that results from being raised with totally inappropriate or insufficient boundaries or the type that isn't necessarily inflicted directly onto a child but enables it (like they expose a kid to sexualized behavior, fail to dissuade them from mimicking it because they don't see the problem, then doing fuck all when it attracts actual diddlers and groomers because "well they are mature for their age". Times when a kid acts sexually inappropriate without understanding what they're doing because they learned stuff they shouldn't due to extreme lack of privacy in the household. Or women becoming bitter towards their daughters and pimping them out or otherwise allowing them to be humiliated or exploited because "she should appreciate the attention" or living through them vicariously and thinking they're doing them a favor because their own attitudes are so warped, which may or may not be a result of abuse).

Hopefully I'm getting across what I'm trying to say, which is that I do think sexual abuse can often be a self perpetuating cycle, but mostly because it can cause a warped sense of what is appropriate and thus often results in overlooking or enabling stuff that otherwise wouldn't be allowed to happen (whether to consider this outright participation is subjective and probably case by case anyway). The people who actually diddle kids know perfectly fucking well it's unacceptable (barring extremes like being raised in an incest cult or profound mental retardation) are just scum plain and simple, and the "well they're victims too uwu" is criminal lawyer cope that became pop psych bullshit, on that we do agree.

Kelly obviously has serious boundary issues and seems to be bitter and vindictive towards her own kids. Whether this is a result of being abused herself is her business, but she's spent enough time in therapy that her treatment of her daughters is not really excusable regardless. Hopefully if Kelly's treatment of her kids (namely failing at appropriate boundaries with regards to nudity or sexual behavior, priming them to accept unhealthy affection from whoever will give it, and blasting personal pics/info all over the internet to any groomer who might take advantage) leads to something fucked up happening the father will grow a pair and step in before it gets out of control.

These terminally-online woke deviants stop being funny in a hurry when you think too hard about the impacts on their children... *sigh* I might reread the posts about her getting ass blasted at her therapist, being hilariously racist through desperate unsolicited efforts to be seen as totally not racist, and thinking it's a disorder to deny yourself bedtime fried chicken to remind myself the funny outweighs the depressing.
Oh for sure it's common with other types of abuse, but with sexual abuse it is less so. But physical abuse? "My parents beat me and I turned out okay! Now excuse me while I beat my two year olds bare ass with this thick belt." Until they're flat out having fist fights when the kid is 13. And so it goes, generation after generation.

I do agree that children can be taught to accept unhealthy affection from whoever gives it, which is something I hadn't fully considered before, though I am aware it is something that happens. Her boundary issues are definitely going to be a problem, especially if she is not allowing her daughters to have or enforce any personal boundaries. I think we all know what can happen when girls and women feel unable to enforce any boundaries in their life.

Whether abused children grow up to abuse is a myth or not is sort of academic. The problem is that children who grow up with abuse normalize a certain amount of it. Let's remember also that abuse is a spectrum. Abuse doesn't have to be physical torture or starvation. Subtle sexual weirdness can be more than enough, but it can also be something the parent thinks is totally normal in a family, because it was normal in their family.
There are sick psychopaths in the world who get off on hurting children, regardless of whether or not that happened to them. But what's far more prevalent is people not realizing that certain behaviours are harmful to their children, or who resent the work required to change, because it happened to them, so maybe it's not that bad??

And then there's people like Kelly, who allow their naked children to appear on photos on the internet. I hesitate to say it's a "gray" area, because it's pretty gross, but I can imagine an argument being made that children running around naked isn't inherently harmful to the children. The fact that photographic evidence of children running around naked exists is also not inherently harmful to the children-- ie the old trope of embarrassing family photos of children in bathtubs. And maybe there's an argument to be made that you could potentially do damage by being too neurotic about your children, and making sure they're always covered up when cameras are around, etc.

But Kelly is an adult who knows what kind of shit happens on the internet. She is the one choosing, through her own volition, to post photos online where her children are mostly-naked. She is the one choosing to do this knowing full well that her children are too young to understand, and too young to consent. (This is important to me because children and consent and their parents gets complicated. I think there is a WORLD of difference between a parent keeping a photo of their naked child in the bathtub in a private album, and a parent posting a photo like that on a public social media account, and if you're a well-adjusted person, the difference is obvious.)

I don't know if Kelly's treatment of her children is related to whatever abuse she may or may not have experienced herself. But she should know that posting naked photos of your kid online is not okay. She should know that it's weird. But she seems to think it's normal, and that's what's troubling.
Sometimes I wonder if Kelly does stuff simply because she knows she shouldn't. Every sane person knows naked pictures of children online is bad. Some people have feelings about pictures of children online at all, which is understandable. Perverts don't need and often don't collect naked pictures, but they for sure aren't turning them down.
Every pedophile I've come across claims (note: CLAIMS) that he was sexually abused as a child. But this doesn't mean that everyone who was sexually abused as a child becomes a pedophile. There's plenty of people (most of them women, tbf) who were sexually abused yet don't become child molesters.
Yup. I'm usually a big believe victims person but when a pedo says it? I want solid proof. I want god himself to float down and be like "yeah that happened" and glide back on up.
 
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