Zoosadist Zoosadism Megathread - Joshua "Kero the Wolf" Hoffman & Friends.

[Violent Ken Apologist]

What about elaborate plans on their part to do it? Not enough?

 

[Gallifrey]

Why is everyone mad about moral outrages but when it's some faggot I dislike fucking dogs or something it's somehow ok? Am I actually in a David Icke lizard clown world? Oh, well!

"Okay" is a strong word. It's more "seen enough awfulness to know to pick where to invest energy and time."

If you don't like the guy, have at it. When you provide minimal information, it's hard to make assumptions and I tend to lean on the side of not ruining people's lives if given a free choice. Considering the hell I'm known to rain down in real life when I get moving</powerlevel>, I tend to try to be as kind as I can be up to the point where it's clear hell is needed.

Here's the thing, right: You posted in a thread where a normal case we invest energy into is someone who gets off on fucking a puppy until they literally split it in half and it's dying, whimpering for its mother, with nobody to care about it. Once you've seen - and read- and been involved in collating data for - that kind of thing, someone who just says "man, I'd really like to dick a dog, and here's how I think I'd go about it"... really is just not worth the energy it takes. That energy is better aimed at people who get off on fucking puppies in half, stomping their heads in with stiletto heels, and disemboweling cats so they can fuck their abdomens.

It's a sense of scale thing. It's okay. I get it, you dropped in, you were upset, and your scale just doesn't have these awful things in it. You've never watched an innocent animal get lost on the operating table from one of these sick fucks and watched them get away with it</powerlevel>. But please, trust me - someone fucking an appropriately sized dog is really not even in the same league of awful as where I'd rather invest my time, and someone who literally is only talking about fucking a dog and hasn't done it is well below even the league of awful that people who fuck ones of the appropriate size are in.

 

[Pukebucket]

Yooo I know someone into fucking dogs or who said they wanted to before, would outing them actually even work or cancel them?

We're sympathetic to the issue, but you're really overestimating how much you'll be able to legally do in this scenario.

If you want to actually stop this guy then gather evidence of your conversations and sit on them for now, or quietly pass them over to the police. Outing or cancelling them in public only works if you have a broad enough social sphere and/or the individual in question is well-known enough that it can cause a scandal, and even then there are going to be naysayers who think you're full of shit if you have nothing more to back up your claims. Also know that even with evidence some people probably won't believe you because denial is a hell of a thing. If you are a furry, expect members of your mutual friend circle (if you have one) to close ranks.

Furthermore, accusing random dipshits of planning to fuck dogs (especially around the furry fandom) without irrefutable proof that they've actually done it is the equivalent of stumbling into the street yelling about how you heard the local pastor talking about child molestation. Some people might point out that it's a pastor and ask what the fuck you expected, a few may go the "Please think of the children!" route and spread it around, but far more are going to wonder what the fuck kind of drugs you're on.

If you want to get this guy, you need to find and compile hard evidence that he isn't just talking or fantasizing about it. No cop is going to arrest someone on conspiracy to commit bestiality, because the only way those charges tend to happen is if he straight-up met with an undercover cop who is offering his dog or something. Even then, it's a misdemeanor at best, and he may still play himself up as a martyr for the furry fandom.

What's more, without solid proof that he has actually committed an act of animal cruelty it may fall into a "he said, she said" scenario and, depending on how you call him out (especially publically) he may slap you with defamation to cover his own ass, particularly if you accuse him of actual bestiality when all you can prove is that he's talked about it. He is going to do everything he can to avoid admitting it, and it'd be very easy for him to lie and say that the chats were doctored, or taken out of context, or part of ERP, or basically use any possible defensible term to deny that he was actually planning on raping an animal.

If he is fucking dogs or acts on what he's saying, then he may be planning on taking photos and/or videos to share with other creeps he trusts, because a lot of them like to share content online for fap fuel. Be warned though that any videos he might share with you or others may not even be of himself for that very reason; verify his identity if he sends you anything if you can, and add that to your evidence and send it into the cops.

 

[Violent Ken Apologist]

do zoosadists and zoophiles at least get banned on twitter if exposed? curious

 

[s0mbra]

do zoosadists and zoophiles at least get banned on twitter if exposed? curious

Considering pedos don't, I doubt it.
As long as you don't post anything actually illegal or call a tranny their birthsex twitter doesn't GAF

 

[Pukebucket]

do zoosadists and zoophiles at least get banned on twitter if exposed? curious

Not really, unless they're morons like Aluzky who post dog dick pics on their main account. Even then they're more likely to be banned for sharing explicit content than saying they fuck dogs openly.

 

[Violent Ken Apologist]

If I got a massive amount of people looking at their dogfuckery at the same time and date would that at least have social repercussions for them?

 

[Pukebucket]

If I got a massive amount of people looking at their dogfuckery at the same time and date would that at least have social repercussions for them?

Possibly, but while it will cause a minor scandal it's more likely that the individual in question will just DFE and go underground if solid evidence isn't preserved and passed on to the authorities, especially if it becomes apparent there are people eyeballing him. Loose lips sink ships, especially where gay ops are involved.

The most likely scenario is he'll just disappear for a while if legal charges don't surface against him (which they can't as, again, without irrefutable proof he's fucking dogs it's most likely they'll get dropped for insufficient evidence), he will probably just go into hiding for a while and come back with a new alias once he's had time to spin a narrative that either he "fell in with the wrong crowd who made him think that way" or "muh mental illness" or whatever else he'll claim to unfuck his reputation.

As we've seen with people like Wild__Life and others, it's entirely possible for a furry to get their public reputation obliterated by bestiality charges, only to come back stronger than ever and then be found out as a dog rapist yet again years after the fact. Even now she's attempting to rebuild her reputation in the fandom after getting caught out as second time.

Ruining an animal rapist's reputation through the court of public opinion probably isn't going to stop him from fucking animals. He'll just learn how to hide it and deflect, unless you go out of your way to try and get him in for legit criminal charges.

 

[Violent Ken Apologist]

Possibly, but while it will cause a minor scandal it's more likely that the individual in question will just DFE and go underground if solid evidence isn't preserved and passed on to the authorities, especially if it becomes apparent there are people eyeballing him. Loose lips sink ships, especially where gay ops are involved.

The most likely scenario is he'll just disappear for a while if legal charges don't surface against him (which they can't as, again, without irrefutable proof he's fucking dogs it's most likely they'll get dropped for insufficient evidence), he will probably just go into hiding for a while and come back with a new alias once he's had time to spin a narrative that either he "fell in with the wrong crowd who made him think that way" or "muh mental illness" or whatever else he'll claim to unfuck his reputation.

As we've seen with people like Wild__Life and others, it's entirely possible for a furry to get their public reputation obliterated by bestiality charges, only to come back stronger than ever and then be found out as a dog rapist yet again years after the fact. Even now she's attempting to rebuild her reputation in the fandom after getting caught out as second time.

Ruining an animal rapist's reputation through the court of public opinion probably isn't going to stop him from fucking animals. He'll just learn how to hide it and deflect, unless you go out of your way to try and get him in for legit criminal charges.

They're popular and attend offline events for things, but they're also kind of crazy. They don't really fear anything. And their offline scenes are sort of super alphabet soup and trans friendly, so I'm fearing people will just shrug it off, haha

guessing I'd have to get really damning proof for it to work

 

[Just Another Furgag Alog]

Considering pedos don't, I doubt it.
As long as you don't post anything actually illegal or call a tranny their birthsex twitter doesn't GAF

Twitter did actually change their policies on the pedos. It was furry news for exactly a day then everyone forgot about it because they never really cared.

Furthermore, accusing random dipshits of planning to fuck dogs (especially around the furry fandom) without irrefutable proof that they've actually done it is the equivalent of stumbling into the street yelling about how you heard the local pastor talking about child molestation. Some people might point out that it's a pastor and ask what the fuck you expected, a few may go the "Please think of the children!" route and spread it around, but far more are going to wonder what the fuck kind of drugs you're on.

Now I'm sad, because that's exactly how it goes.

 

[Pukebucket]

A bit late, but this is one of the fucks who have been torturing animals for profit on Youtube. Bowlcut boy posted this photo and another with his pals on the channel where he drowns dogs and cats for profit and didn't think people would find his Facebook by doing a reverse Google image search. He's from Vietnam so nothing's likely to happen to him on a legal front, but his identity is now known. Hopefully we can find more of these assholes. Props to Nick Crowley for making the vids about this dude and continuing to follow through.

I may also be way late on this as well but while looking into more information on the animal abuse rings I noticed an interesting thread from back in September. There is a channel (dozens actually) that is actively buying baby monkeys at a month old and depriving them of physical comfort from their caregiver (they're wrapped in towels and bathed and stuff but no significant human contact) and food at seemingly random intervals, baiting them to fight one another for scraps before selling or giving them away as adults. The comments are full of those baby monkey hate creeps that have been showcased on places like /x/ and deep dive Youtube channels on weird topics, with commenters making requests like asking the channel runner to beat them or starve them etc.

 

[Gallifrey]

There is a channel (dozens actually) that is actively buying baby monkeys at a month old and depriving them of physical comfort from their caregiver (they're wrapped in towels and bathed and stuff but no significant human contact) and food at seemingly random intervals, baiting them to fight one another for scraps before selling or giving them away as adults.

This is interesting, but too many monkeys and too many regulations to try to shelter them, and I've got my own things going on. Fucking Asians. Well, not all of them. Just this fucking, cultural attitude in much of Asia that doesn't have any regard for animals as co-inhabitants of this planet. Livestock and pets are one thing, but for some reason much of Asia never just saw the need for animal welfare or humane treatment the same way we'd typically think about it (even if we're shitty at codifying it) in the USA.

If there are Asian members who are offended at this, I'll hedge bets that either:

1 - You're not from one of the countries I am way too familiar with.

2 - You're from one of those countries and can admit it about your fellow countrymen, but aren't one of the people I'm bitching about.

 

[Pukebucket]

Not sure if Grreain-whitewolf has been brought up here on the farms yet, but his gallery has been archived a few times on the Wayback Machine since it was created so I assume there's some people out there keeping tabs on him. For good reason, in my mind.

Spoiler: Taxidermy and Furry Porn

This guy's taxidermy caught my eye two months ago (the bloody wolf head) but I didn't have time to go through with a fine-toothed comb, so I wound up bookmarking his FA to come back to and then promptly forgetting about it entirely until I started going through my backlog. Glad I fucking did.

His gallery is full of very doxable material but more concerning to me is how many taxidermy (and living) dogs and wolves he has. Dude is also clearly into paws, judging by the feet pics of both drawn furry art and his own taxidermy. That would be questionable enough, however...

Of particular note to me were two snuff commissions of his fursona, which made me want to snoop more.

Faves are also absolutely inundated with predominantly feral dog porn, torture, and snuff art for nearly 200 pages (I counted 197 but I may've rushed a few because I wanted to get the fuck out of there). The snuff collection persists to being among the first dozen images he ever favorited on FA back in 2016.

Lastly, his journals are very interesting to read. They indicate that he has serious health issues and has been repeatedly kicked out and abandoned by friends and roommates over the years. Apparently his service dog also died (inb4 he Kero'd it). He also likes to bring up that he's Native and how people who don't like his taxidermy are just bigots, but I get the feeling the real reason is because he's been caught screwing the pooch (both living and dead) and even the most tolerant and well-meaning among the furfag community can't really defend him once that becomes clear.

Edit: I have no evidence of if this dude actually fucks dead dogs or just likes the idea. All I will say is that he definitely likes the idea of fucking dead dogs so keeping an eye on him wouldn't be a bad idea, especially as he seems to be stubbornly sticking things out.

 

[Vexillology]

Accusing children of being sexually predatory is a very Nick Bate thing to do. This sort of statement usually precedes an arrest for buggery of some kind.

Also why are children allowed on that site.

 

[Gallifrey]

Accusing children of being sexually predatory is a very Nick Bate thing to do. This sort of statement usually precedes an arrest for buggery of some kind.

Also why are children allowed on that site.

First hand experience on adult sites, "allowed" is irrelevant; they'll lie to get in to see what this porn thing is, and that's if they're not horny teenagers who know exactly what it is anyway. [Edit: It should go without saying, but they'll also hit up artists, try to play cute, etc etc etc baiting attention from people. I keep hoping at least one of them is a plant working for Chris Hanson. My account has been messaged by UA before despite having nothing on it but a name and age.]

Furaffinity does have stuff that is technically clean. At the least, perfectly acceptable art of cartoon characters drawn by people who "I swear, I don't do porn!"

From the SFW filtered version of the site:

Spoiler: Too bad this isn't the most extreme it gets. Spoilered to save visual space.

Artists are the main problem for establishing a proper SFW (and by extension, ostensibly family-friendly) space over there. They fail to tag shit worth a damn, to the point that I spotted at least two pieces of material I'd not consider safe for any workplace I've ever been at in their "SFW filtered" presentation.

Spoiler: And I'm being generous on the stuffing/etc shit because it's Thanksgiving, even.

TLDR: Kids - especially teenagers - will lie to the site anyway, and FA wants to be all purpose but fails to scour things from the SFW/"Family-friendly" side of things primarily due to artists.

 

[Khalove]

A similar snuff group to the monkey hate exists on YouTube, but for cats instead;
Обновление к петиции · Cyber Expert Needed · Change.org
A lot of images posted in that 'petition' but I don't want to show all of them.

Spoiler: Harassment of owners of injured/dead cats

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https://i.imgur.com/PyXfUvA.png

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https://i.imgur.com/5WnFMpW.png

A lot of these people upload/save and share videos of dogs (usually pitbulls) mauling and killing cats more than other animals or humans
A frequent username I saw on these cat abuse/cat snuff channels is ''Tyrone Catkiller Kang'' or some variant of that
He posts violent abusive stuff on videos of baby animals or just cats in general and also had playlists of people being horrifically injured in accidents etc. He said he lives in Phoenix, Arizona in some comment. I don't have any screenshots of this but they mention his channel in that change.org post

First time making a big post here so I apologize for this not being formatted well. I think most people outside of KF would take this more seriously as people are more sympathetic to cats than monkeys on average, just my observation though

 

[Calamity]

First time making a big post here so I apologize for this not being formatted well. I think most people outside of KF would take this more seriously as people are more sympathetic to cats than monkeys on average, just my observation though

Oh yeah, definitely. Once it's a 'cute' relateable animal, a lot more heads turn. Unfortunately that means insects, fish, mice and such get the most commonly abused too. Especially by crush fans.
Cruelty towards any animal at all, no matter how 'undesirable' is a big fucking red flag. It's depressing how common these trade groups are.

 

[Khalove]

Oh yeah, definitely. Once it's a 'cute' relateable animal, a lot more heads turn. Unfortunately that means insects, fish, mice and such get the most commonly abused too. Especially by crush fans.
Cruelty towards any animal at all, no matter how 'undesirable' is a big fucking red flag. It's depressing how common these trade groups are.

It's true, sadly. These people type and function very similarly to the rabid monkey torture people and use the same fake excuses ''feral cats kill a lot of birds and that's why I must dismember them alive/monkeys steal crops that is why I need to torture them slowly'' as if that is not something the animal does because of a survival instinct. They couldn't give a fuck about the birds or crops.
Harassing the owner/relative of something or someone that died will always be near the height of evil honestly.

 

[Calamity]

It's true, sadly. These people type and function very similarly to the rabid monkey torture people and use the same fake excuses ''feral cats kill a lot of birds and that's why I must dismember them alive/monkeys steal crops that is why I need to torture them slowly'' as if that is not something the animal does because of a survival instinct. They couldn't give a fuck about the birds or crops.
Harassing the owner/relative of something or someone that died will always be near the height of evil honestly.

I've noticed in the petition that a lot of things like the youtube playlists of these individuals are broken links. They all just go '/playlist/' then the rest of the url is broken, huh.
I was trying to find some to archive, but the most I could find was Sonnys playlist.

Spoiler

 

[Khalove]

I've noticed in the petition that a lot of things like the youtube playlists of these individuals are broken links. They all just go '/playlist/' then the rest of the url is broken, huh.
I was trying to find some to archive, but the most I could find was Sonnys playlist.

Spoiler

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Yeah, I think these guys mass reported them without screenshotting any of the playlists so most of them disappeared. Sonny crockett is another one of them who harasses owners of injured or sick cats I believe