2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Gehenna]

I agree with you that 4D chess is over used, but what you described isn't 4D chess, it's just normal chess. 4D chess requires anticipating several moves ahead in a way that should be unpredictable. 4D chess is when you anticipate some one in the Ukraine buying a radio because you shot a man in Mexico two days earlier. This is why the EO order is usually cited as an example, because if it does come into effect, Trump had the wherewithal and understanding of his opponents to not only know how they would act but to have set up a safeguard against it months in advance.

Yes, I would actually agree with you! The entire thing I described was WHY I dislike the term "4D chess" being used, and its because its just... regular chess, against an awful foe.

Though even the EO is just regular chess.

Prior interference occurred (Albiet, massively overblown)
Dems have a history of cheating

Not hard to come up with that counter off that alone.

 

[Meat Target]

A lot of this is them reacting to and having their own 'cope' that "Demographics as Destiny" is finally hitting its end. Even if Trump loses everything, he did something no Republican prior had done. He took a sledgehammer to the wall separating the GOP from minority votes. If his successors follow it and avoid alienating the white vote, it can royally fuck with a ton of formerly solidly blue areas.

The thing is, Trump was able to peel off some Black and Hispanic votes because Black and Hispanic men often like Alpha Male bravado. How many minorities do you know of that take lip from women, gays, or troons as much as white boys do?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

A lot of this is them reacting to and having their own 'cope' that "Demographics as Destiny" is finally hitting its end. Even if Trump loses everything, he did something no Republican prior had done. He took a sledgehammer to the wall separating the GOP from minority votes. If his successors follow it and avoid alienating the white vote, it can royally fuck with a ton of formerly solidly blue areas.

One of the interesting things about Bannon is that he may be a lot of things - a crook and a faux outsider for example - but he's really hammering the 'class trumps race' angle. And he's probably right. If you have a working-class party fighting an elite party in democratic elections the working-class party will win.

The only problem is the question of whether the elite will actually allow any democratic elections anymore. They can just stuff ballots. And working-class solidarity is impossible if you can split people up by race, gender, LGBTWTFBBQ nonsense, and so on which I'm sure the left of the Uniparty will push hard.

Bannon of course is going to get done for money laundering next year. Almost makes me hope Trump pardons him before he leaves office.

 

[Cristobal’s Colon]

The thing is, Trump was able to peel off some Black and Hispanic votes because Black and Hispanic men often like Alpha Male bravado. How many minorities do you know of that take lip from women, gays, or troons as much as white boys do?

I doubt it's the main reason. Policy matters to the minorities who bother to vote. And Blacks and Hispanics are socially more conservative than one might think.

an aside: many Black democrats otherwise regret voting for Biden-Harris. Racial concessions are the Blacks' single-issue when it comes to votes. The enslavement continues.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

The thing that gets me is... money for what?
Its LITERALLY costless.

Either three things

1. Pay off other lawyers to challenge Drumpf in the lawsuits

2. Get money to give to the DNC after losing millions from their failed attempt to defeat Mitch and to help get funds for the Georgia runoffs.

3. NO REFUNDS where they know they will lose this and just reap the rewards while they can, this strategy has been used by Bernie Sanders and it worked out for him twice.

 

[Cristobal’s Colon]

Either three things

1. Pay off other lawyers to challenge Drumpf in the lawsuits

2. Get money to give to the DNC after losing millions from their failed attempt to defeat Mitch and to help get funds for the Georgia runoffs.

3. NO REFUNDS where they know they will lose this and just reap the rewards while they can, this strategy has been used by Bernie Sanders and it worked out for him twice.

This will never not be relevant.

 

[XYZpdq]

So uh, with Trump replacing the Cybercrime chief... And them publicly talking about Dominion and Server Raids...

What are the odds Trump has a FISA warrant and people are reading those panicked, terrified emails from certain people asking if "the Dominion Project" is secure, or what have you?

I'm curious how / if the theoretical server grab lines up with the pentagon shakeup.

 

[Meat Target]

I doubt it's the main reason. Policy matters to the minorities who bother to vote. And Blacks and Hispanics are socially more conservative than one might think.

an aside: many Black democrats otherwise regret voting for Biden-Harris. Racial concessions are the Blacks' single-issue when it comes to votes. The enslavement continues.

And I'm not saying it's the main reason. But it's arguably a factor. Trump did something decades of "compassionate conservatism" could not.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Newsmax is interviewing Powell about fractional ballots in the Dominion/Smartmatic software. It seems like they genuinely don't know whether or not to believe her, which is actually kind of interesting to hear from an American journalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39WrSskl3XE

She's going to file by Wednesday or Friday in multiple states.

I think she's right about the collusion by Governor Kemp and but she might be full of shit about the software. In any case, my prediction is the media will ignore it, the courts will dismiss the case and the Republican party will say 'Oh well, we tried. Time to move on'.

Tucker will say 'I asked for evidence, she refused to provide anything convincing'.

 

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Imagine saying with a straight face that you need money to transition power because the president wants recounts. Like Biden and Harris might not take over the presidency January 20th because they didn't pay first months rent to the white house.

You fucking retard. Even someone like Trump, who just hired a bunch of Bush 43 retreaded retards, needs money to hire on their political appointees and start planning what they'll do in the first part of their Presidency.

As you know, Trump just delegated that to Paul Ryan, while rejecting the policies he ran on.

Public funding has been provided to the victor of the US Presidential election for this purpose for more than half a century. This is to avoid private money influencing those early teams. To some extent, Trump may be acting like a baby to make the Biden administration even more corporatist than it would have been otherwise (still less than his though).

The thing is, Trump was able to peel off some Black and Hispanic votes because Black and Hispanic men often like Alpha Male bravado. How many minorities do you know of that take lip from women, gays, or troons as much as white boys do?

Great point, Trump gained some nig and spic votes by behaving like George Floyd. Very impressive

(Floyd got better pussay)

 

[Gehenna]

I'm curious how / if the theoretical server grab lines up with the pentagon shakeup.

The alleged seizure was before the shakeup, but was allegedly done by the military. Now, while a fair portion of the uber brass in the military is pozzed, trump has throughout the last 4 years done a fairly steady de-pozzing.

If I were to give it any credence, the 'seizure' would have been a warrant and some officers would have grabbed it. No way would it have been something the President wasn't aware of, because he'd have to be the one asking to avoid an international incident.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Before I do though, I need to launch into a bit of a rant as to why I hate the term "4D chess". You see, the vast, vast majority of what people refer to as such is actually really, really simple. It is merely making your opponents react in a way you can expect and having a trap laid out in front of them. In order to do this, you just need three steps.

What you are describing is the OODA Loop:

1. Observe - collect info
2. Orient - organize and filter info
3. Decide - create an action plan
4. Act -execute plan

What Trump does, however he does it, is get inside his opponent's decision making cycle and make them react to him. It's also why chaotic shit always seems to be happening around Trump.

The key is to obscure your intentions and make them unpredictable to your opponent while you simultaneously clarify his intentions. That is, operate at a faster tempo to generate rapidly changing conditions that inhibit your opponent from adapting or reacting to those changes and that suppress or destroy his awareness. Thus, a hodgepodge of confusion and disorder occur to cause him to over- or under-react to conditions or activities that appear to be uncertain, ambiguous, or incomprehensible. -Harry Hillaker​

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[EmuWarsVeteran]

Newsmax is interviewing Powell about fractional ballots in the Dominion/Smartmatic software. It seems like they genuinely don't know whether or not to believe her, which is actually kind of interesting to hear from an American journalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39WrSskl3XE

She's going to file by Wednesday or Friday in multiple states.

I think she's right about the collusion by Governor Kemp and but she might be full of shit about the software. In any case, my prediction is the media will ignore it, the courts will dismiss the case and the Republican party will say 'Oh well, we tried. Time to move on'.

Tucker will say 'I asked for evidence, she refused to provide anything convincing'.

She needs to stop blabbering to the media and focus on getting a tight AF case ASAP to use the internet as a megaphone once she's actually filed it. She so far seemed like a great lawyer, but she is also definitively horrible at culture war. You don't play with the enemy you silly girl. I saw many scientists which definitely had the actual backing of academia behind them get fucked by the media flamewar, you don't get into that, period, you overturn them and fuck them over that's what you do.

 

[MrJokerRager]

So what's the over-under on the GA Senate runoffs? Assuming predictions are worth shit anymore.

If Trump loses the presidency, both those seats will go to the Democrats.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

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I'm having fun at least on this slow Sunday.

Didn't the other side clamor about faithless electors before returning to the regularly scheduled "abolish the EC" rhetoric back in '16?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

The alleged seizure was before the shakeup, but was allegedly done by the military. Now, while a fair portion of the uber brass in the military is pozzed, trump has throughout the last 4 years done a fairly steady de-pozzing.

The President is Commander in Chief right? So he could tell some special forces types to go do it and keep it quiet from the brass.

What are the odds Trump has a FISA warrant and people are reading those panicked, terrified emails from certain people asking if "the Dominion Project" is secure, or what have you?

The problem with that is that we don't know if the NSA is on his side. Maybe they're on the other side, in which case his FISA warrant would get denied or the NSA would just stonewall him.

 

[Gehenna]

If Trump loses the presidency, both those seats will go to the Democrats.

Nah, its more complicated than that. Georgia has already signaled election reform, and Mitch McConnel would uhm, not be pleased to say the least.

The better answer is "nobody knows until January".

The President is Commander in Chief right? So he could tell some special forces types to go do it and keep it quiet from the brass.

In the movies, yes. In reality... other considerations take place. Warrants across international lines are less decrees and more polite requests. One national leader asks another national leader to allow it. In this case, dealing with nominal German assets, it would have to be a fairly quiet affair actually.


The Brass will know, Trump will know, and neither side really would like it but the only other option is to risk a de facto act of war on German soil aaaand everybody dislikes that more.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Think we're going to see a narrative shift again. They're coming up with justifications for Trump's performance.
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I had a feeling the liberals were going to unleash the house nigger equivalents for the Latinos and Asians to bring them back in line.

 

[Meat Target]

The President is Commander in Chief right? So he could tell some special forces types to go do it and keep it quiet from the brass.

That sounds like a stretch. There's a chain of command for a reason, lest he just jump over it and use SOFs as his personal goon squads.

 

[Stoneheart]

No way would it have been something the President wasn't aware of, because he'd have to be the one asking to avoid an international incident.

Im pretty sure the Us is allowed to do stuff like that without asking.