Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

I utterly detest ACAB morons. They have no grasp whatsoever about what police actually deal with on a daily basis. Whenever I hear that ACAB shit I just assume I'm hearing the narcissistic lunacy of an outright criminal who more or less hates cops because they sometimes get interrupted while they're committing a crime.
A fist in the low throat or a side kick to their kneecap gets these same people to change their tune about wanting cops around real damn quick. Try it at some point and you'll see I'm not kidding.
 
She seems to be moving away from the guy on the picture (while her friend likely tries to block him), that's already way more convincing that any of the pictures KV tried to frame Vic with...

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I just want to know if the photo's been cropped, or if that's how it was originally taken. If that was how it was originally taken, then it'd be staged because someone had to position the camera to be at eye-level to the crotch area. If it's cropped, it was to hide the person's facial expressions because even though they're jerking away from it, maybe she's squealing in surprise and was actually okay with it like she was a groupie.

There's photographic evidence, but it just sounds like every other "post-sex regret years later" #metoo story out there.
 
“He only wore it some of the time” isn’t really effective. It isn’t “out of context” to show that at an event there are several times where he placed himself and others at risk of exposure. He could have been wearing the mask 95 percent of the time, but it only takes that one photo op with an asymptomatic positive person.

This is both true and not true at the same time. From what little I know about masks, I think they are made to keep germs from spreading in the air from your body as much and not preventing them from coming in because well...you have to breath. So sick little Jimmy fiddling with his mask is putting way more people at risk over a quick photoshoot of people. And then there's people who wear bandanas instead.

The whole idea was to limit the amount of Covid viruses in the air which begs the question of why there is any conventions in the first place. Anyways, those pictures may as well be both participants consenting to the risks of getting Covid but still going through with it despite the risks. I figure this is more of a choice and not a "Vic man bad" because most Covid factors would be stuff in the background and not a photoshoot. Besides, wouldn't it be the fan putting Vic at risk and not the other way around. I'm sure he'd gladly take a picture while wearing a mask. Then again, he is someone who would deny pictures because the world has the right to see those fabulous lips and chin.

I just want to know if the photo's been cropped, or if that's how it was originally taken. If that was how it was originally taken, then it'd be staged because someone had to position the camera to be at eye-level to the crotch area. If it's cropped, it was to hide the person's facial expressions because even though they're jerking away from it, maybe she's squealing in surprise and was actually okay with it like she was a groupie.

There's photographic evidence, but it just sounds like every other "post-sex regret years later" #metoo story out there.

There's a lot you can tell by this picture. If someone tried licking my hairy ass leg, you can bet your ass you wouldn't get a pic of me being that calm. There's two situations I could piece together what happened. 1) There's a friend who saw this happening and timed it just right before disaster. Not impossible but unlikely. 2) The licking just happened and the receiver of such a lick was a little surprised how it felt. It definitely looks more like stupid dumb fun especially seeing that tatoo for some kind of joke than some weird licking someone's leg without consent.

While the picture is pretty damning, I agree we're missing a lot of the context here.
 
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This is both true and not true at the same time. From what little I know about masks, I think they are made to keep germs from spreading in the air from your body as much and not preventing them from coming in because well...you have to breath. So sick little Jimmy fiddling with his mask is putting way more people at risk over a quick photoshoot of people. And then there's people who wear bandanas instead.

The whole idea was to limit the amount of Covid viruses in the air which begs the question of why there is any conventions in the first place. Anyways, those pictures may as well be both participants consenting to the risks of getting Covid but still going through with it despite the risks. I figure this is more of a choice and not a "Vic man bad" because most Covid factors would be stuff in the background and not a photoshoot. Besides, wouldn't it be the fan putting Vic at risk and not the other way around. I'm sure he'd gladly take a picture while wearing a mask. Then again, he is someone who would deny pictures because the world has the right to see those fabulous lips and chin.



There's a lot you can tell by this picture. If someone tried licking my hairy ass leg, you can bet your ass you wouldn't get a pic of me being that calm. There's two situations I could piece together what happened. 1) There's a friend who saw this happening and timed it just right before disaster. Not impossible but unlikely. 2) The licking just happened and the receiver of such a lick was a little surprised how it felt. It definitely looks more like stupid dumb fun especially seeing that tatoo for some kind of joke than some weird licking someone's leg without consent.

While the picture is pretty damning, I agree we're missing a lot of the context here.
Both parties aren't allowed to "consent to the risks of covid" due to state mandates and venue policies. What they are doing is directly violating policies and mandates with the "who cares aboout the rules" or "not like they can punish me" mindset. While yes, there are many risks such as "sick little Jimmy fiddling with his mask", saying "this activity is riskier so that means that this one is more acceptable" is part of the problem.

I agree cons shouldn't be happening, and it's why all major and reputable cons have stopped. We mostly have little ones which are privately owned conventions where the con runner's rely on it for a source of income (Ryan Kopf for example is still holding Con Alt Delete last I checked). Cons are also in a weird place right now with venues, as the venues want their money. Many of these smaller cons won't survive if they cancel on their own, as if they cancel on their own, they lose their venue deposit, and if the venue cancels on them, they get it back. It's why Katsu held on for months after the Gaylord cancelled Magfest and kept pretending the con was going to happen. They had a strong feeling the con was going to be cancelled, but they had to keep on as normal until the venue cancelled on them.

Kairi in particular is more of an oppositionist troll. She will argue against anything KV says purely because they said it and not because they are right or wrong. Case in point, posting a pic of Vic without a mask at a con is "out of context" for the statement of "Vic was at a con without a mask". It really isn't, as it is photographic evidence of Vic at a con without a mask, but because it was said by KV, she needs to oppose it.

Edit: Just reread your post again. It is both parties placing each other at risk and not just him risking them and them risking him. He could be asymptomatic positive and not know it. He could be in the incubation period where you spread it but don't feel symptoms. He could have a minor cough and think nothing of it. It also places everyone else in the venue at risk in the case that either party has it and either knows they have it or don't know they have it. People can be pretty stubborn. (One example: Friend's mom works an office job. Client came in to sign paperwork. Client's whole family tested positive, and he refused to get tested due to no symptoms. Didn't bother sharing this with anyone until after he was already there. Friend's mom tested positive a couple days later. This was like 2ish weeks ago)
 
I just want to know if the photo's been cropped, or if that's how it was originally taken. If that was how it was originally taken, then it'd be staged because someone had to position the camera to be at eye-level to the crotch area. If it's cropped, it was to hide the person's facial expressions because even though they're jerking away from it, maybe she's squealing in surprise and was actually okay with it like she was a groupie.

There's photographic evidence, but it just sounds like every other "post-sex regret years later" #metoo story out there.
Interesting but not unexpected. I assume there will be more people coming out of the woodwork.
 
I just want to know if the photo's been cropped, or if that's how it was originally taken. (...)

It could be cropped because the girl doesn't want her identity to be disclosed (something that she states in the text).
Could still be staged tho: Could even be a gig, consented then (lick my leg, so funny, lol, so random), and now used out of context.
But the fact that the person doesn't want to be known, it's not quite usual of the metoo stuff.

There's a lot you can tell by this picture. If someone tried licking my hairy ass leg, you can bet your ass you wouldn't get a pic of me being that calm. (...)

Wrong. The alledged setting is that there were taking a picture and that he pulled that out of nowhere. If true, it's safe to assume that he timed it.
You primitive brain is fast, if your hairy ass leg were licked, moving it away would be something you'd do in less than a second. Loosing it would come later as anger is something that come from your "thinking" brain, after processing the situation.
Again, could still be staged tho, bis repetita.

Yet, it's still way more convincing that anything they use as proof against Vic, I haven't seen him licking anyone, and I haven't seen people moving away from him either, staged or not... That's the only thing I wanted to point out here.

EDIT: One element that goes toward the thing being staged tho is the way she holds her sleeve.
There could be several explanation for that, however one of those is that she is holding it up so the guy is visible in the shot while he licks her leg.
 
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I had concerns about these conventions but I stopped caring because of months of riots and protests where people are "shoulder to shoulder for a long time".

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I had concerns about these conventions but I stopped caring because of months of riots and protests where people are "shoulder to shoulder for a long time".

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The simple wrongness of these people low key rustles my jimmies.

Vic may have admitted to touching Jamie's hair, and may even have pantomimed tugging it. Problem is, Jamie didn't describe simple hair pulling. She describes Vic digging his fingers into the back of her skull, grabbing a fistful of hair, yanking her head back, pinning her body or otherwise preventing her movement, whispered "something sexual" into her ear, and did so for long enough that Jamie had to physically fight him off while shouting something to effect of "get the fuck off me." Hair pulling, if that's what happened, is awkward. What Jamie describes is some kind of simple assault or battery.

On top of that, the suit wasn't thrown out because "the evidence [for the defendants] was credible." That was not what the judge ruled. The judge ruled that Vic had not brought enough clear and specific evidence to support the mere possibility that the defendants' action were not covered by the First Amendment.

Something something so tiresome.

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Just for clarity. I was wrong in the above description, it wasn't "get the fuck off me," it was "What the fuck are you doing?"

This is from Vic's Second amended petition, page 151, which shows Jamie's original tweet
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And again how she described it in her TCPA MTD, page 3

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She seems to be moving away from the guy on the picture (while her friend likely tries to block him), that's already way more convincing that any of the pictures KV tried to frame Vic with...

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I think it’s safe to say that Quinton Flynn’s voice acting career is officially over.
Penis beard is wrong, as always. And “basement-dwelling unfuckable hatenerds”. Heh, like anyone would fuck you.
 
Being called a "piece of shit" is hyberbolic, or ridicule, which is protected free speech. It is honestly funny that BHBH included it in the TDMA, and they should be made fun of for that.

Saying Vic lured Monica to his room, pinned her to his bed, and forcibly kissed her until rescued by a third party, is not an opinion, that's a statement of fact.

Saying Vic grabbed at the back Jamie's skull, got a fistful of her hair, yanked her head back, forcibly restrained her, whispered "something sexual" into her ear, and needed to be physically pushed off isn't an opinion, it's statement of fact.

Saying Vic assaulted women, including four (I think it was four) that Ron Toye personally knows of, is not an opinion, it's statement of fact.

Saying Vic was terminated after an investigation found evidence of harassing and threatening behavior is not an opinion, that's a statement of fact.

I hope Sudderth, Wallach, and Womack pull a Chupp and just overturn everything to see these people lose their minds.

I'll settle for a partial overturn.

I'd even settle for a complete affirm, as long as it's a well reasoned ruling.
 
Being called a "piece of shit" is hyberbolic, or ridicule, which is protected free speech. It is honestly funny that BHBH included it in the TDMA, and they should be made fun of for that.

Saying Vic lured Monica to his room, pinned her to his bed, and forcibly kissed her until rescued by a third party, is not an opinion, that's a statement of fact.

Saying Vic grabbed at the back Jamie's skull, got a fistful of her hair, yanked her head back, forcibly restrained her, whispered "something sexual" into her ear, and needed to be physically pushed off isn't an opinion, it's statement of fact.

Saying Vic assaulted women, including four (I think it was four) that Ron Toye personally knows of, is not an opinion, it's statement of fact.

Saying Vic was terminated after an investigation found evidence of harassing and threatening behavior is not an opinion, that's a statement of fact.

I hope Sudderth, Wallach, and Womack pull a Chupp and just overturn everything to see these people lose their minds.

I'll settle for a partial overturn.

I'd even settle for a complete affirm, as long as it's a well reasoned ruling.
Pulling a Chupp would be ignoring all the obvious defamation and fact statements and affirming the dismissal.
 
The pictures certainly are eyebrow raising. While they aren't say proof that he's metaphorically finger banging five year olds like they accuse Vic of, they certainly show some level of impropriety.
If we can get info of the convention that was at and other pics of Flynn at the time, it'd be a nail in his coffin for sure. I'm still a little skeptical.
 
Being called a "piece of shit" is hyberbolic, or ridicule, which is protected free speech. It is honestly funny that BHBH included it in the TDMA, and they should be made fun of for that.

The thing that they always brush over is that the tweet didn't say, "Vic is a piece of shit." The tweet said, "Vic is a criminal piece of shit." Yes, BHB addressed both the 'criminal' and the 'piece of shit' aspects of the tweet in the take-down letter, but if they hadn't objected to the piece of shit part, we all know that the internet would be dunking on BHB for conceding that Vic was, in fact, a POS. And lost in the LawIdiot analysis is the requirements in Texas for those letters. You're supposed to include every defamatory statement. Calling someone criminal can be considered defamatory, so they had to include it, whether it was the statement that really mattered or not.
 
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