2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I’ll say it again; the weirdest thing about all of this is how tentative the mainstream DNC leadership seems to be about this. Sure the media is doing a full court press, as could be expected, but all the familiar faces you’d expect to be directly howling about Trump’s refusal to concede are all lukewarm about it if not conspicuously absent entirely.

Pelosi has her own shit to deal with, so no surprise that she hasn’t chimed in, but where’s Schumer? Fienstien? Warren? Fuck, even Hillary hasn’t come out of her lair for more than a handful of weakass jabs.

Biden himself has only thrown the occasional snipe about orderly transitions, when you’d expect him to be dropping the hammer on Trump directly. He’s not acting like a confident leader with a real mandate; he’s acting like not all the cards are on the table yet.

To play devil’s advocate though, he’s got plenty of reason to not want to alienate Trump voters. That, plus it’s no secret that the DNC is reeling from the losses in the house, and there’s likely a lot of infighting. They’re trying to consolidate power; divisive rhetoric can backfire now, that’s why they’ve kicked the “unity” talk into high gear as if people are going to forget they were calling people fascists for 4 years.

While Trump’s chances are slim, but the DNC establishment seems to have learned it’s lesson about underestimating him. Still, I can’t help shake the feeling that the Dem leadership is acting like they know how tenuous the situation is. They’re acting gun shy in the same way you’d expect them too if they really were worried about the consequences of massive fraud being discovered.
 
Does anyone on here genuinely look up to either Trump or Biden? Most on Trump's side here seem to just think Biden will be worse, and think he's the best bandaid America can get right now.
Look up to him as a role model? No.
I genuinely appreciate though how he sticks it right back to the media, Democrats, Chinese, and Eurotrash when for decades anyone with an (R) next to their name has been a featherweight in these regards.
It's been great to have a more or less moderate President who doesn't take any shit and in fact is a master shitposter himself.
 
I certainly don't. Trump, for all of his image as a hardass businessman who fires people at the drop of a hat, was a complete pushover when it came to exercising the power of his office. He was surrounded by enemies that were directly under his control and the most he did was replace a couple of agency heads. I understand that for the better part of his presidency he was staring down the barrel of an impeachment trap in the form of the Mueller travesty, but come the fuck on. He should have had the fortitude to fucking clean house and replace the entire upper management of every executive branch agency with cronies who would faithfully execute the agenda he campaigned on. He was literally the embodiment of Article II power for four years and he wielded it like a kid who was first learning how to drive.
I’m not that in depth on politics, but I really don’t know how he could do that much with literally everyone trying to block him. He’s lucky he did half the stuff he did without a 3rd impeachment attempt.
So we have the first volunteers who want to die for Palestine.
Fixed that.
 
Does anyone on here genuinely look up to either Trump or Biden? Most on Trump's side here seem to just think Biden will be worse, and think he's the best bandaid America can get right now.
I don't know if I'd call it looking up to Trump, but I do find admirable qualities in him. I also find many undesirable qualities.

The man is a hard worker. And he's willing to take on any fight, including the fucking world. He's the worst of america and the best of america. Stubborn, rude, headstrong, won't back down when he thinks he's right, doesn't trust supposed "conventional wisdom"...
 
Oh, I didn't read the "overseas" part.

They claimed it was military ballots in the replies cuz Trump apparently called them "losers". The lies are getting out of hand.
American expats and British expats are usually rootless neoliberal cosmopolitans who shit on America whenever a Republican is in office.

These are one of the most dangerous people VDH talked about a while ago.
 
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Good. The military who voted for biden can fight the new wars then.
That's not how it works. The ones who lean left in the military are the POGs (Person, Other than Grunt) or REMFs (Rear-Echelon MotherFuckers). They're the paper pushers, the clerks, anything and everything that includes a comfy office job. The closest thing to combat any of them has ever seen is the indirect fire siren going off. Oh, sure, they'll go off to the sandbox, but none of them ever play in it.
 
In before they cuck to their liberal slut daughters feefees and Karen harpies and Antifa soycucks.

The Republicans voter base ought to their politicians to account and threaten with with actual legit hell if they betray their voters. And not some faggy protest or Twitter shit posting.
 
So, all these governors and secretaries of state are basically larping when they say they're certifying, as that falls to the legislatures, right?

I feel like pa has certified at least once already, and was told az had already certified as well.
it goes up to the governor to sign off. If it's ceremonial at the lowest level, i imagine its ceremonial at the top level, kind of like Black Rod's little dance in the UK.
 
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