Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

[Useful_Mistake]

Even as I type to you, my words are coming to you through the 4th dimension (Wi-Fi).

.....have you ever read a dictionary?

The Torah is words. Words exist in the 4th dimension over time. Even as I type to you, my words are coming to you through the 4th dimension (Wi-Fi).

Every letter and word has a frequency. When it is spoken into the air, it travels through sound waves. You cannot see them, but those sound waves are there. The written manifestation of a word is simply one part of a word.

If Elohim speaks The Torah out loud, it exists in sounds waves, forever.

Thats not how any of this works. But, anyway, sources, please.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

The Torah is words. Words exist in the 4th dimension over time. Even as I type to you, my words are coming to you through the 4th dimension (Wi-Fi).

Well we can list fourth dimensional space as another thing you don't understand.

I could explain to you different dimensional theories as well as where energy rests in all of that, but it would go about as well as trying to explain to Richard Watson about the various scientific subjects he thinks he knows. Hardest thing to explain would probably be zero-point-energy, which is a part of quantum mechanics (fuck Heisenberg's uncertainty principle).

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

Well we can list fourth dimensional space as another thing you don't understand.

I could explain to you different dimensional theories as well as where energy rests in all of that, but it would go about as well as trying to explain to Richard Watson about the various scientific subjects he thinks he knows. Hardest thing to explain would probably be zero-point-energy, which is a part of quantum mechanics (fuck Heisenberg's uncertainty principle).

I studied music theory and took Honors science in college. I understand fully the physics of sound waves.

Are you a fake college student?

I'm pretty sure the Messiah did not practice moral absolutism.

He followed The Torah and taught His Sheep to do the same. The Torah is built on absolutes that do not change, ever.

Elohim is the wises

Elohim is the wises

Finger hit send before I was done.

Elohim is the wisest being in existence. Their Torah is perfect without flaw.

So you admit you are sleep deprived? Can't be making your faculties any sharper, and they were dull to begin with.

Show me a mother of more than 2 children who isn't lol

Nope. Every SOUND has a frequency, but words are not sounds. Sounds are used to convey words and thus ideas, but there is no inherent frequency to puppy, ball, antidisestablishmentarianism, or idiot.

This is not true for English which is heavily dependent on tone

Words are a construction of different letters, ie sounds

She says, having rejected the actual Hebrew Holy text AND the Christian Holy text to make up a hodge podge of her own.

Where is the moral law written that you have to accept Rabbinical or Catholic authority when deciding Canons?

There's only one book that Elohim's people are required to accept: The Torah. Everything else is subject to personal opinion

Hello Melinda. Happy Thanksgiving.

I think it'd do you a lot of good to study comparative religion/mythology. What most people don't realize is that religious texts are allegorical in nature. They're all just a collection of parables. They're using symbols to teach a higher truth. The seeds of every new religion come from the religion that preceded it, the previous religion then becomes mythology. The Torah is relatively new. It hasn't become mythology yet. This doesn't mean that it isn't true, only that it was never meant to be taken literally, except by the profane. This is typically how sacred truths have always been hidden from the profane.

If you want to learn more about the origin of the Torah/Pentateuch an exhaustive resource (almost 800 pages) is the book "On Mankind: Their Origin and Destiny" (1872). It's so old that you can read it for free, online. In the very first chapter the author (I have it on good authority the author's name is actually a pseudonym) explains the different theories/opinions along with the historical circumstances that led to the Torah's creation, giving the reader plenty of information so they can draw their own conclusions. It's important to be skeptical of all new information, but if you continue reading the book I don't see how you couldn't gain confidence in the author's academic achievements. They go on to explain the different symbols used in the Pentateuch and their likely meanings. I don't agree with all of the author's assertions, but the book is a wealth of information nonetheless. It would've taken a whole lifetime of study (especially so in the pre-internet era) to compile it.

I know that you don't have enough knowledge and your worldview is far too narrow at this point to appreciate this book, but I hope that eventually you can undo some of the knots in your mind. You're the only one that can help you, a team of professionals working round the clock for years on end wouldn't be able to help you. You're just that broken presently. Maybe one day your children will find this thread, and along with cringing at their mother's obvious mental illness and enthusiastic public admissions of being fucked in the ass, they might begin to find their way out of the obscene ignorance you've inflicted on them.

Spoiler: from the preface

Maimonides, the most learned of the Rabbis, says of the book of Genesis, “We ought not to take literally that which is written in the Book of the Creation, nor entertain the same ideas of it as are common with the vulgar. If it were otherwise, our learned ancient sages would not have taken so much pains to conceal the sense, and to keep before the eyes of the uninstructed the veil of allegory which conceals the truths which it contains. Taken literally, that work contains the most extravagant and absurd ideas of the Deity. Whoever can guess at the true meaning should take care not to divulge it. This is a maxim inculcated by our wise men, especially in connection with the work of the six days. It is possible that by our own intelligence, or by the aid of others, some may guess the true meaning, in which case they should be silent respecting it; or, if they do speak of it, they should do so obscurely, as I myself do, leaving the rest to be guessed at by those who have sufficient ability to understand me." (Maimon. More Nevoch, part ii. cap. xxix.). He also says (ib. part i. cap. xvii.) that this enigmatic method is not peculiar to Moses and the Jewish doctors, but is common to them and to all the sages of antiquity.

A simple search of the thread will inform you that I attended an IB school. Do you know what an IB school is? Being am international population here, you guys should know.

I was raised in N. VA, which is one of the most ethnically, religous, and racially diverse parts of the USA. Only San Francisco could probably come close. I grew up around Asian people, African nationalities, Europeans of all sorts, Central Americans of all sorts, etc. I can tell the difference between Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, and Japanese characters just by looking because I grew up in an area where people printed signs in about 15 different languages.

You are incorrect to say that I have a limited worldview because for one, you mistakenly assume that I am a native of the Appalachian region. Yes, my experience with the people of SW VA has held true to the stereotypes that people of these areas are not well learned or accepting of cultures outside of their own. However, I'm not from here, I'm a transplant.

I've studied Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Rabbinical Judaism, Catholicism, and Christianity. I decided to plant myself in my own place.

The actual extant physical copy of The Torah available to humans is not 5,780+/- years old but the actual original of The Torah pre-dates Adam and Chavah. A copy of The Torah sits in the Heavens, and has been there, since eternity's beginning.

How can the fourth dimension encompass multiple variables involving time and radio waves when dimensions can only represent one variable? Also that's not how Wi-Fi works. Wi-Fi just transmits data back and forth from your device to your router which then fetches the data you want from a website through your ISP and the website's server. Wi-Fi doesn't directly connect a device to another unless they both happen to be on the same network and you want to transmit data between those two devices; which even then they aren't technically connected since they both need to go through a network like the one a router provides.

The 4th dimension is compromised of waves that bend and cannot be touched or isolated to one particular point in time.

This is why nobody takes you seriously

What's the difference between texting and prayer?

Happy Thanksgiving, Melinda. I hope your day was lovely. I am thankful for the entertainment you provide for us, and I hope you are thankful for the company we grace you with. The amount of effort you post with suggests you are starved for an audience, though we are not starved for strange people to laugh at. Your content has a unique brand of humor to it, much like your breastmilk carries a unique blend of secondhand liquor and pathogens, but milk is milk just as one crazy screaming lady can replace another.

Not at all starved for an audience. There are other platforms I use to debate and discuss my POV.

Gonna have to correct you here, love. She should absolutely have finished bagging her groceries, or sat down in the bank, or asked if the Walmart had a "family" room, most do, but the ladies room is not the place for feeding babies. Changing them, yes, feeding, not so much.

woman saw a Karen throwing a hysterical tard tantrum, and steal a chair from another business, and decided to show you pity so you'd get out of her hair faster. She like every other human who's forced to interact with you wants to hurry up and be rid of you, because you're an unpleasant entitled cunt

The bank was closed and actually we talked on the way to the car about motherhood. She offered to follow me to my car and help load my groceries. Then she put then in my car for me.

There are some nice people in the world.

A second lady had actually stopped to ask if I needed help while bagging. Buy I told her the other lady was helping , we were okay.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I studied music theory and took Honors science in college. I understand fully the physics of sound waves.

One, Music Theory does not cover dimentions or sound waves as far as I am aware, and two, clearly you don't, since, once again, we proved you wrong.

This is not true for English which is heavily dependent on tone

Words are a construction of different letters, ie sounds

It's fairly suprising how you manage to always fuck up trying to disprove someone.

The actual extant physical copy of The Torah available to humans is not 5,780+/- years old but the actual original of The Torah pre-dates Adam and Chavah. A copy of The Torah sits in the Heavens, and has been there, since eternity's beginning.

Source please. Every scholar/historian agrees that Torah is written in 6BC, few years after the Bible, and thousand years after Babylonian code.

The 4th dimension is compromised of waves that bend and cannot be touched or isolated to one particular point in time.

Source please. Because you're wrong.

Not at all starved for an audience. There are other platforms I use to debate and discuss my POV.

"Other platforms where I debate"
Shows a commenter that she did not debate. Amazing.

Congrats on the first person to read your work!

 

[LoverofPi]

Finger hit send before I was done.

Elohim is the wisest being in existence. Their Torah is perfect without flaw.

So you allege. You are hardly a trustworthy source on this.

Show me a mother of more than 2 children who isn't lol

I'm not pointing it out to suggest it's wrong to be sleep deprived, instead so everyone can keep in mind the long term side effects of long term sleep deprivation.

This is not true for English which is heavily dependent on tone

Spoken English can change meaning by tone, but comparitively it is fairly not tone dependent. Chinese by contrast, is exceptionally tone dependant. You get tone wrong and you change entire words, not merely adding a sarcastic inflection.

Words are a construction of different letters, ie sounds

Spoken words, yes. But spoken words are simply a method of attempting to convey an idea. Written wors, which do not involve sounds but invoke the idea of sounds can do the same, but they can do the same even for someone entirely devoid of hearing. Pictograms can convey ideas without words.

Where is the moral law written that you have to accept Rabbinical or Catholic authority when deciding Canons?

There's only one book that Elohim's people are required to accept: The Torah. Everything else is subject to personal opinion

Your acceptance of what you call "the Torah" is your own personal opinion, Mel. That's the point.

A simple search of the thread will inform you that I attended an IB school. Do you know what an IB school is? Being am international population here, you guys should know.

I was raised in N. VA, which is one of the most ethnically, religous, and racially diverse parts of the USA. Only San Francisco could probably come close. I grew up around Asian people, African nationalities, Europeans of all sorts, Central Americans of all sorts, etc. I can tell the difference between Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, and Japanese characters just by looking because I grew up in an area where people printed signs in about 15 different languages.

Telling the difference between Chinese, the various Japanese alphabets and Korean by sight is not hard, Mel.

You are incorrect to say that I have a limited worldview because for one, you mistakenly assume that I am a native of the Appalachian region. Yes, my experience with the people of SW VA has held true to the stereotypes that people of these areas are not well learned or accepting of cultures outside of their own. However, I'm not from here, I'm a transplant.

I've studied Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Rabbinical Judaism, Catholicism, and Christianity. I decided to plant myself in my own place.

You have not studied any of them well, from what you know about all of them.

The actual extant physical copy of The Torah available to humans is not 5,780+/- years old but the actual original of The Torah pre-dates Adam and Chavah. A copy of The Torah sits in the Heavens, and has been there, since eternity's beginning.

I knew it would be this specific and deliberately unfalsifiable claim. In short, you believe the Torah predates humanity because you believe the Torah predates humanity.

The 4th dimension is compromised of waves that bend and cannot be touched or isolated to one particular point in time.

That is not any definition of the 4th dimension I have ever heard. Where are you getting this from? Also what sort of "waves" are we talking about?

What's the difference between texting and prayer?

In general, or in your case specifically?

Not at all starved for an audience. There are other platforms I use to debate and discuss my POV.

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And yet...

Also that does not show any debate and honestly sounds more like a self smoke blow than anything. Especially with everything blocked out like that.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Telling the difference between Chinese, the various Japanese alphabets and Korean by sight is not hard, Mel.

I disagree. If you have never seen them prior, it can be hard to know which is which.

 

[White Baby]

He followed The Torah and taught His Sheep to do the same. The Torah is built on absolutes that do not change, ever.

The Messiah taught basic mercies which you seem to be incapable of understanding to coexist alongside the Torah, but I wouldn't really expect anything less from somebody who thinks the Messiah was a separate entity from Elohim.

Elohim is the wisest being in existence. Their Torah is perfect without flaw.

The Torah was compiled and translated by human people, who do have flaws. The Torah was written for a civilization that no longer exists, in political and natural climates that are wildly different than the modern day.

 

[Spergichu]

The 4th dimension is compromised of waves that bend and cannot be touched or isolated to one particular point in time.

Can I get a source? Literally no other source about the fourth dimension I've read says this. Also, how can you transmit across this fourth dimension through Wi-Fi when I explained how your perception of Wi-Fi was wrong?

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I studied music theory and took Honors science in college. I understand fully the physics of sound waves.

Are you a fake college student?

Seems that you're the fake college student Melinda as others have pointed out. By they way, how many "Honor programs did you take in college now? Any time we prove you wrong you claim to have been an honor student yet can't bake it up.

As we've point out before Melinda, academia.edu isn't a good site to source or to even "debate" on. There are other sites out there that people prefer to cite for their works due to the trash that has been clogging up academia.edu. I've listed a few in the past. At this point Melinda you may as well use Disqus.

The 4th dimension is compromised of waves that bend and cannot be touched or isolated to one particular point in time.

Please look up some papers by Matt Parker so you can actually understand what the 4th dimension is.

 

[Deadpool]

Their Torah is perfect without flaw.

Except for the parts where it says: bats are birds, whales are fish, rabbits chew their cud, and pigs are unclean. Gee I just pointed out 4 flaws off the top of my head. That's without taking genesis literally. If you do then the whole book is a flaw.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The Torah was written for a civilization that no longer exists, in political and natural climates that are wildly different than the modern day

"You mean to tell me we are different than we were during 6BC. I can't believe it!"
-Melinda, probably

Can I get a source? Literally no other source about the fourth dimension I've read says this. Also, how can you transmit across this fourth dimension through Wi-Fi when I explained how your perception of Wi-Fi was wrong?

She refused all my source requests, so I feel she'll refuse yours too.

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

The Torah was written during 42000BCE by YHWH and Yeshuah after they got bored and wanted to start publishing books, you have no sources to say I am wrong so that means I'm right

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The Torah was written during 42000BCE by YHWH and Yeshuah after they got bored and wanted to start publishing books, you have no sources to say I am wrong so that means I'm right

I know that you are pretending to be Mel, but technically the fact that historians say it's made in 6BC, disproves it. Just in case Mel decides to steal this from ya

 

[super thug]

It's kind of amazing. You really don't even understand half of what anyone says to you, do you? Yet you keep telling yourself that you do understand, even though it's obvious that you don't. It's really kind of amazing.

Worldview isn't referring to what cultures you've been exposed to. If we go by the meaning that everyone else uses, it's more like the lens through which you view reality. Yours is one of the most narrow I've encountered. So much black and white thinking. An inability to adapt, grow or learn. I don't see how medication could ever help someone like you, you're beyond the ministrations of pharmacopeia.

Studying multiple religions and philosophies does not equal studying comparative religion/mythology. The latter includes the former but the former doesn't include the latter. Read some James Frazer. Joseph Campbell.

A copy of The Torah sits in the Heavens, and has been there, since eternity's beginning.

This reminds me of a theory I once read about the Hebrew alphabet. Theory went that their alphabet is actually derived from constellations. You know, groupings of points of light in the night sky? If that's true then yes, there's your torah sitting in the heavens. Allegory, metaphor. Makes much more sense this way than the way you're thinking.

And "Elohim is the wisest" should be "Elohim ARE the wisest". The -im makes it plural, remember? Like goy and goyim.

 

[White Baby]

And "Elohim is the wisest" should be "Elohim ARE the wisest". The -im makes it plural, remember? Like goy and goyim.

Not to be autistic but that's not how it works unless you're specifically referring to the concept of God as a multiplicity. 'Elohim' is very commonly a singular name.

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

Melinda’s breastfeeding fixation is getting seriously out of control.

Like, we get it. We are aware that you are a mammal and milk comes out of the bodies of female mammals. Things that come out of human bodies also include sweat, shed skin, shed hair, various excess oils, nasal mucus, menstrual fluid, semen, smegma, pus, vomit, piss, shit, and ideas for new video games. Nobody talks publicly about any of these secretions, emissions, or discharges because they are disgusting human byproducts, there is nothing unique about them, and they are nothing to be proud of. You were granted permission to breastfeed during a hearing for the same reason you would be granted permission to shit during a hearing, if biological circumstances necessitated it.

You are as much a matriarch as is a sow.

 

[LoverofPi]

I disagree. If you have never seen them prior, it can be hard to know which is which.

If you're a first time viewer of them and don't know the alphabets at all, but even basic exposure will teach you the difference in how they look, especially between Korean and the other two. Chinese and Kanji might give you a little trouble, given they're the same characters but written differently, but Hiragana and Katakana are very obviously their own thing as well.

I know that you are pretending to be Mel, but technically the fact that historians say it's made in 6BC, disproves it. Just in case Mel decides to steal this from ya

Worth noting is written Hebrew is from about 10th century BCE, and the earliest known fragments of what would come to be collected in the Torah is from 6th century BCE. It then got added to over the years.

It's kind of amazing. You really don't even understand half of what anyone says to you, do you? Yet you keep telling yourself that you do understand, even though it's obvious that you don't. It's really kind of amazing.

Worldview isn't referring to what cultures you've been exposed to. If we go by the meaning that everyone else uses, it's more like the lens through which you view reality. Yours is one of the most narrow I've encountered. So much black and white thinking. An inability to adapt, grow or learn. I don't see how medication could ever help someone like you, you're beyond the ministrations of pharmacopeia.

Studying multiple religions and philosophies does not equal studying comparative religion/mythology. The latter includes the former but the former doesn't include the latter. Read some James Frazer. Joseph Campbell.

Mel needs to acquaint herself with Dunning-Kruger first.

This reminds me of a theory I once read about the Hebrew alphabet. Theory went that their alphabet is actually derived from constellations. You know, groupings of points of light in the night sky? If that's true then yes, there's your torah sitting in the heavens. Allegory, metaphor. Makes much more sense this way than the way you're thinking.

Mel doesn't do allegory and metaphor, it seems. Not her style.

And "Elohim is the wisest" should be "Elohim ARE the wisest". The -im makes it plural, remember? Like goy and goyim.

Not to be autistic but that's not how it works unless you're specifically referring to the concept of God as a multiplicity. 'Elohim' is very commonly a singular name.

True, but it is an odd holdover from when the religious was polytheistic and the head of their pantheon was El, before the Levite shift.

 

[Spergichu]

Mel needs to acquaint herself with Dunning-Kruger first.

I actually told her she was the personification of Dunning-Kruger months back around the time she first started posting. Once she was bothered to look it up, she insisted that it didn't apply to her and played semantics as to why. Of course her logic with those semantics was absolutely retarded but that's hardly surprising at this point.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

but even basic exposure will teach you the difference in how they look

That's true. If you have seen them once, you probably can tell the difference.

but Hiragana and Katakana are very obviously their own thing as well.

Right, but if you haven't ever seen them, and you see a sentance in both, you might, in ignorance, assume it's the same language, just very different letters. Anyway, yes, Hirigana, Katakana look very different.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

Don't lecture Melinda, she speaks Japanese. I'm sure that claim is just as true as the rest of her claims.