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Meet Leigh, one of the founding members of Def Leppard:

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Shit, did I say Def Leppard? I meant Dexys Midnight Runners.

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The poofy bangs are totally NOT to hide male pattern baldness and a receding hairline...

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Don't let this rustic picture fool you...

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He's upper middle class and lives in a McMansion like most troons (only the one in white is actually female):

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Far more burly than the average gay man:

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The usual laundry list, complete with "if you don't like crossdressers, don't swipe right"

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Lol "tall girl"
At least their hair actually looks clean and cared for. I know, I know, bare minimum... but look at this thread. That's a high bar to meet.
 
Here we see Jimmy, totally not insecure about his (non-existent) "womanhood":
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https://twitter.com/Emmy_Zje/status/1333108116544753667 (Archive)

I love Jimmy's current PFP. It reminds me of his true form, making it even easier to tell that he is, always has been and always will be a man:
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Q. What is the way to not be a woman?
A. Have a Y chromosome.

Congrats Jimbo.

The absolute seething projection. Jimmy reminds me of Dan the Man. Both men are deeply insecure with these screaming persecution complexes. Both men think of womanhood as this exclusive club to which they demand access; their quest is a hilariously quixotic one since their goal is utterly impossible.

Jimmy will always be male; the only way he and men like him can achieve womanhood is by changing the definition. Might as well claim your dog is a fish. They don’t want to actually be women; they want to control what being a woman is.

Jimmy’s ex seems a pretty meek and unassuming lady who has basically gone into hiding after her raging narc husband abandoned her and their three kids to pursue his fetish. Hope she’s found a good transwidow group.
 
I often wonder if some men go trans, not because they know they are women inside, but because they are too ashamed to be men with feminine pursuits. Just like women breaking into spaces formerly for men
Except we know from the many, many examples in this thread that male trannies are otherwise the most stereotypical men ever. They aren't just overrepresented in "women's" cohorts in "male" hobbies -- thus proving they don't have "female brains" [their terms] / female socialization [terven terms] -- they're overrepresented among the men, too (in those hobbies which aren't particularly conducive to mental health). Even our shrinking violet Sharkboy (a homosexual and a likely HSTS) is a gun nut.

If the feminine pursuit to troondom pathway theory held true, we'd see an explosion of troon celebrity chefs, troon fashion designers, etc - all "feminine" occupations (where men have nevertheless found disproportionate success). Instead, we see troons are nerds or jocks. The only "drama club"/ "mommy's boy" troons are child victims like Jazz and that landwhale makeup youtuber.
 
Except we know from the many, many examples in this thread that male trannies are otherwise the most stereotypical men ever. They aren't just overrepresented in "women's" cohorts in "male" hobbies -- thus proving they don't have "female brains" [their terms] / female socialization [terven terms] -- they're overrepresented among the men, too (in those hobbies which aren't particularly conducive to mental health). Even our shrinking violet Sharkboy (a homosexual and a likely HSTS) is a gun nut.

If the feminine pursuit to troondom pathway theory held true, we'd see an explosion of troon celebrity chefs, troon fashion designers, etc - all "feminine" occupations (where men have nevertheless found disproportionate success). Instead, we see troons are nerds or jocks. The only "drama club"/ "mommy's boy" troons are child victims like Jazz and that landwhale makeup youtuber.
I’m in a lot of very female interest groups on Facebook (baby names, wedding dresses, craft stuff that men are never into) and 95% of the time when I see someone with a male name posting they’re an FTM. Also, they always try to defend their shit names in name groups.

My theory is that MTFs aren’t feminine but they aren’t masculine either. They’re failed heterosexual men. Sure, they like speed running, which is very male dominated, but that’s not a cool thing to be into. The occasional jocks we see on here are the true AGPs, but the rest are AGP + autism. They aren’t good at sports and they can’t get girls, and they don’t understand why, so they interpret it as being trans.

Someone on here said a while ago that third genders were only for males and females have never been able to get out of being a wife and mother, but in the west that isn’t true. Being a nun has its own problems, sure, but it’s also always been a refuge for dorky, awkward, and weird women. Same with being a monk. If there’s any positive to tradcathery it’s that awkward young men can go find something to do with their life that isn’t playing vidya all day.
 
Except we know from the many, many examples in this thread that male trannies are otherwise the most stereotypical men ever. They aren't just overrepresented in "women's" cohorts in "male" hobbies -- thus proving they don't have "female brains" [their terms] / female socialization [terven terms] -- they're overrepresented among the men, too (in those hobbies which aren't particularly conducive to mental health). Even our shrinking violet Sharkboy (a homosexual and a likely HSTS) is a gun nut.

If the feminine pursuit to troondom pathway theory held true, we'd see an explosion of troon celebrity chefs, troon fashion designers, etc - all "feminine" occupations (where men have nevertheless found disproportionate success). Instead, we see troons are nerds or jocks. The only "drama club"/ "mommy's boy" troons are child victims like Jazz and that landwhale makeup youtuber.
You make a fair point, and I admit, I don’t know enough about the social media activists to really argue it either way. They make up such a small percentage of the population I really can’t use personal experience either.

I would suspect more than anything a glut of Trans clothing designers and makeup/hairdressers as appearing feminine seems to be a big part of the “game”. But, like the folks in the FA movement thread, I suspect that many would rather complain about clothing that doesn’t fit right instead of trying to push into the field itself.
I don’t really consider the kids who went through puberty blocking to be in the same grouping. For the life of me I don’t understand who decided that “A man who doesn’t go through puberty is a woman”. It sounds like ancient Greco-Roman medical theories. Next thing you know they will start claiming that their uterus is wandering about their body, higgledy-piggldy, and the horizon Ed will make it settle.
 
Except we know from the many, many examples in this thread that male trannies are otherwise the most stereotypical men ever. They aren't just overrepresented in "women's" cohorts in "male" hobbies -- thus proving they don't have "female brains" [their terms] / female socialization [terven terms] -- they're overrepresented among the men, too (in those hobbies which aren't particularly conducive to mental health). Even our shrinking violet Sharkboy (a homosexual and a likely HSTS) is a gun nut.

If the feminine pursuit to troondom pathway theory held true, we'd see an explosion of troon celebrity chefs, troon fashion designers, etc - all "feminine" occupations (where men have nevertheless found disproportionate success). Instead, we see troons are nerds or jocks. The only "drama club"/ "mommy's boy" troons are child victims like Jazz and that landwhale makeup youtuber.
I’m in a lot of very female interest groups on Facebook (baby names, wedding dresses, craft stuff that men are never into) and 95% of the time when I see someone with a male name posting they’re an FTM. Also, they always try to defend their shit names in name groups.

My theory is that MTFs aren’t feminine but they aren’t masculine either. They’re failed heterosexual men. Sure, they like speed running, which is very male dominated, but that’s not a cool thing to be into. The occasional jocks we see on here are the true AGPs, but the rest are AGP + autism. They aren’t good at sports and they can’t get girls, and they don’t understand why, so they interpret it as being trans.

Someone on here said a while ago that third genders were only for males and females have never been able to get out of being a wife and mother, but in the west that isn’t true. Being a nun has its own problems, sure, but it’s also always been a refuge for dorky, awkward, and weird women. Same with being a monk. If there’s any positive to tradcathery it’s that awkward young men can go find something to do with their life that isn’t playing vidya all day.
That's quite a big difference in my experiences with Thai Ladyboys vs Western Troons. In the former, IT/Technology obsessions or dorky activities were barely seen. While tech interests seem to be prevalent in the latter, in fact a few pages back someone has reported about some old school crosdressing society (in Britain, I think) and there were full of trainspotters. The Ladyboys from Thailand seem to be overrepresented in makeup, fashion, hairdressing and culinary areas which seem more stereotypically feminine instead speedrunnings or CS... They don't seem that socially maladjusted, but just act more like sassy femme gay men. Of course the troon explosion has affected zoomers so much that they'll likely be replaced by "true and honest" troons, especially AGP awkward dudes soon.

There's something to think about, it seems like in my country, and assuming other poorer countries. Awkward people do not seem as apparent as mega autist cows, and if there were ones, they're not quite pushed on the sides to be completely alone with themselves, the necessity social connections still groom them to act like normies in some way. Extended families are common to keep them in line, and if being monks or nuns do actually provide some outlet... They are still a lot of places for that. Could it be developed country individualism? I don't know. (Buddhism, not Catholic, but functionally similar in providing community, and structured celibacy living).
 
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You really don't see how troons are the logical endpoint of rhetoric like "there are no differences between men and woman?"
Nah, I see internet porn as being the main culprit here. If radfem ideas started all of this, the troon phenomenon would have started long before now... like back in the 80s.

Today we have a generation of young men who grew up consuming violent misogynistic internet porn from a very young age. A few years back, the "incel" phenomenon became huge, and one of the main complaints by this group was that "...everyone else is having porn star sex but me! Women are holding out pussy that I'm entitled to!" Some have become so enmeshed in their porn related fantasies that a subset of them WANT to become the objects of their obsessions. The whole phenomenon of video games/sci fi fantasy/cosplay culture helped give them the idea that they could become (better than) women if they only had access to the right medicine/technology/clothes.

There's also the internet addiction phenomenon-- and there's a ton of grooming and propaganda campaign on social media aimed at young people to sell them the idea that "transitioning is the key to happiness!" We're talking popular video game cartoons with "pro-trans!" memes, tons of anime, images and words that would naturally attract young eyes. Platforms like reddit have TONS of subs that are dedicated to converting young boys into their "lifestyle". Many of the same types of troons seek out kids on gaming platforms and places like discord and do the same thing there.

One based old guy will then declare that if he got to the bedroom with a woman and found a dick, there'd be one less "lying faggot rapist" (a direct quote) in the world.

The woke assholes will stare in shock and sputter a bit, maybe try to argue the point, but they never really get anywhere, and based old guy continues browsing the snack tray or stacking his dice or whatever. After about 5 minutes of awkward silence broken only by the sound of based old guy doing his thing, a woman who doesn't know better will then tentatively offer that she's fine with trannies and truly believes they are really reel women but she just has the tiniest concern about something- sports, locker rooms, women's scholarships, medicating children, etc.

The woke asshole segment EXPLODES, the woman is called a TERF along with, generally, a variety of other slurs, and the woman is only allowed to stay in the group (where she will still get death glares from the Wokes for months) if three conditions are met: her boyfriend/husband is also in the group, she backtrack-grovels quickly enough, and the based old guy stops crunching long enough to tell everyone to shut the fuck up about politics and get back to the group activity.
I think the fact that the woke go for the throat when a woman questions trans extremism, but they will just sputter and stammer if a man questions them, is telling. There is an underlying misogynistic vibe about the whole movement.
Another indication is how only women's health groups have been infiltrated and re-created to use neutral gender language, whereas men's health groups have remained intact. It's all about erasing the female presence/voice/opinions/identity to please the troons.
 
Literal gibberish, starting to think the way leftists,progressevis, sjws whatever you want to call them, make up terminology by the minute is just a psy op by the cia to demoralize and distort Gen z's perception of reality. If you want to suck a dick suck one no one cares, just don't go shouting out in public about it. Starting to really miss the old phrase "what two adults do behind closed doors is their business" because it implies that it stays their business and no one else's. You can have all the weird sexual preferences you want, and your own made up explanations about them just stfu about it in public.
 
Literal gibberish, starting to think the way leftists,progressevis, sjws whatever you want to call them, make up terminology by the minute is just a psy op by the cia to demoralize and distort Gen z's perception of reality. If you want to suck a dick suck one no one cares, just don't go shouting out in public about it. Starting to really miss the old phrase "what two adults do behind closed doors is their business" because it implies that it stays their business and no one else's. You can have all the weird sexual preferences you want, and your own made up explanations about them just stfu about it in public.
When I was in highschool my girlfriends and I were of the distinct belief that menfolk always bragged and exaggerated their sexual encounters to each other.

I have no idea if this is true or not, having never infiltrated a male locker room.

I think of that when I see people of any sort speaking about their bedroom activities so freely.
 
Gen Z don't understand reality. they think the internet (twitter) and American politics (never their own country) is just life. And they all struggle with mental health issues as they have identity issues that stem from the constant fakery of trying to be "good people" (liberal and perfect) so they don't get socially outcast and it wrangles with their mind causing all kinds of shit, the young girls don't wanna be girls because they assume they will be objectified and raped and the young boys don't wanna be boys because they are told that being a man is evil, they have privilege and are the perps of all badness in the world... and if you are white, ho ho ho BE GUILTY!

Why do ya think they mostly are hypocrites? They are literally superficial and fake. It's a form of torture that they inflict upon themselves.
 
Except we know from the many, many examples in this thread that male trannies are otherwise the most stereotypical men ever. They aren't just overrepresented in "women's" cohorts in "male" hobbies -- thus proving they don't have "female brains" [their terms] / female socialization [terven terms] -- they're overrepresented among the men, too (in those hobbies which aren't particularly conducive to mental health). Even our shrinking violet Sharkboy (a homosexual and a likely HSTS) is a gun nut.

If the feminine pursuit to troondom pathway theory held true, we'd see an explosion of troon celebrity chefs, troon fashion designers, etc - all "feminine" occupations (where men have nevertheless found disproportionate success). Instead, we see troons are nerds or jocks. The only "drama club"/ "mommy's boy" troons are child victims like Jazz and that landwhale makeup youtuber.
I’m in a lot of very female interest groups on Facebook (baby names, wedding dresses, craft stuff that men are never into) and 95% of the time when I see someone with a male name posting they’re an FTM. Also, they always try to defend their shit names in name groups.

My theory is that MTFs aren’t feminine but they aren’t masculine either. They’re failed heterosexual men. Sure, they like speed running, which is very male dominated, but that’s not a cool thing to be into. The occasional jocks we see on here are the true AGPs, but the rest are AGP + autism. They aren’t good at sports and they can’t get girls, and they don’t understand why, so they interpret it as being trans.

Someone on here said a while ago that third genders were only for males and females have never been able to get out of being a wife and mother, but in the west that isn’t true. Being a nun has its own problems, sure, but it’s also always been a refuge for dorky, awkward, and weird women. Same with being a monk. If there’s any positive to tradcathery it’s that awkward young men can go find something to do with their life that isn’t playing vidya all day.
I think that the AGP/HSTS dichotomy doesn't really work, at least not anymore. Not to say that there aren't AGPs and HSTSs, but I don't think that it's the dominant division anymore.
Mostly, I think that the people we've traditionally classified as AGPs should be split. Some of them just redirect their attraction to women onto themselves (traditional AGP), but some of them are sissification fetishists and some are attracted to feminine social interaction. Then there are the ones who just like the breaking of taboos.
But while the AGP label is the main label that needs to be revisited, I think that the HSTS label is also flawed (in ways that were probably not a big factor when Dr Blanchard was first laying out his typology). Being gay just isn't really a good determinant of whether a tranny is HSTS or AGP anymore; I feel like just as many gay troons are AGP as HSTS and we have a new class of troons who transition because it's what their friends are doing and they have more in common with the traditional HSTS class than AGPs.
And finally we have the new kingdom of Incels who we've traditionally just called fake trans. They're generally pretty misogynistic.
And then we have the

I haven't done any rigorous analysis of this, obviously, but if you were to demand I provide my suggested typology I'd probably go with
  • AGPs
    • Displaced Attraction: attracted to women, but displace that attraction onto themselves
    • Sissies: like the humiliation of being treated like the clearly inferior gender
    • Transformation Fetishists: they aren't as sexually attracted to the idea of themselves as women as the idea of transforming themselves into women
  • HSTSs
    • Super Gays: naturally feminine men who are traumatized by homophobic abuse and begin to identify as women to avoid it
    • Straight Chasers: gay men who just want to increase their dating pool by going after straight men instead of gay men (these men can also be Super Gays who are too feminine to attract gay men)
    • Flagellants: straight men (probably white) who feel guilty for all their straight, male, cis privilege and hang out in SJ circles that aren't good for their mental health. By being trans they absolve themselves of their sin
  • Incels
    • Transmaxxers: they think that women have it easier, frequently autistic
    • Sociopaths: basically flagellants who are self-aware and are just doing for clout, frequently have unsavory histories
    • Reinventors: they need to reinvent themselves, and trooning out is the particular route they chose
 
I think that the AGP/HSTS dichotomy doesn't really work, at least not anymore. Not to say that there aren't AGPs and HSTSs, but I don't think that it's the dominant division anymore.
Mostly, I think that the people we've traditionally classified as AGPs should be split. Some of them just redirect their attraction to women onto themselves (traditional AGP), but some of them are sissification fetishists and some are attracted to feminine social interaction. Then there are the ones who just like the breaking of taboos.
But while the AGP label is the main label that needs to be revisited, I think that the HSTS label is also flawed (in ways that were probably not a big factor when Dr Blanchard was first laying out his typology). Being gay just isn't really a good determinant of whether a tranny is HSTS or AGP anymore; I feel like just as many gay troons are AGP as HSTS and we have a new class of troons who transition because it's what their friends are doing and they have more in common with the traditional HSTS class than AGPs.
And finally we have the new kingdom of Incels who we've traditionally just called fake trans. They're generally pretty misogynistic.
And then we have the

I haven't done any rigorous analysis of this, obviously, but if you were to demand I provide my suggested typology I'd probably go with
  • AGPs
    • Displaced Attraction: attracted to women, but displace that attraction onto themselves
    • Sissies: like the humiliation of being treated like the clearly inferior gender
    • Transformation Fetishists: they aren't as sexually attracted to the idea of themselves as women as the idea of transforming themselves into women
  • HSTSs
    • Super Gays: naturally feminine men who are traumatized by homophobic abuse and begin to identify as women to avoid it
    • Straight Chasers: gay men who just want to increase their dating pool by going after straight men instead of gay men (these men can also be Super Gays who are too feminine to attract gay men)
    • Flagellants: straight men (probably white) who feel guilty for all their straight, male, cis privilege and hang out in SJ circles that aren't good for their mental health. By being trans they absolve themselves of their sin
  • Incels
    • Transmaxxers: they think that women have it easier, frequently autistic
    • Sociopaths: basically flagellants who are self-aware and are just doing for clout, frequently have unsavory histories
    • Reinventors: they need to reinvent themselves, and trooning out is the particular route they chose
Worded in that manner it basically boils down to escapism on every point. Sort of quite scary we live in a time when 'weaker' people will find a tiny bit of power by literally pretending to be something else.

What happened to those weird simple people that just had their simple life with a deadend job, no friends and a weird simple wife? Now they probably transition to somehow get a foothold a little higher...
 
Gen Z don't understand reality. they think the internet (twitter) and American politics (never their own country) is just life. And they all struggle with mental health issues as they have identity issues that stem from the constant fakery of trying to be "good people" (liberal and perfect) so they don't get socially outcast and it wrangles with their mind causing all kinds of shit, the young girls don't wanna be girls because they assume they will be objectified and raped and the young boys don't wanna be boys because they are told that being a man is evil, they have privilege and are the perps of all badness in the world... and if you are white, ho ho ho BE GUILTY!

Why do ya think they mostly are hypocrites? They are literally superficial and fake. It's a form of torture that they inflict upon themselves.
I decided about a year and a half ago I wasn't going to use my phone at work at all, and it has made paid tremendous dividends for my mental health. There's no way being way too online doesn't play a role in trans kids and people who are vulnerable falling susceptible to this horseshit.
 
I think the fact that the woke go for the throat when a woman questions trans extremism, but they will just sputter and stammer if a man questions them, is telling. There is an underlying misogynistic vibe about the whole movement.
Another indication is how only women's health groups have been infiltrated and re-created to use neutral gender language, whereas men's health groups have remained intact. It's all about erasing the female presence/voice/opinions/identity to please the troons.
This is only true if the majority of the group is wokies. Unfortunately the moment one joins your group more will try to.

In my opinion, if you run a women’s group online, the second anyone comes out as ‘non binary’ she should be immediately removed.
 
Tradfeminist concepts like "there are no inherent mental differences between men and women" and "gender is a construct" are actually completely opposed to transgenderism. Because if there's no innate brain difference, you can't have a sparkly pink girl-brain trapped in a man's body. And if gender is a construct, then there's no soul-like "gender identity" imbued in all of us at birth. That's why they need to supplant feminism with transgenderism. It's also why they supplanted the gay pride movement and tacked the T on, because if gender is on a spectrum and sex is mutable like trans activists insist, then homosexuality doesn't exist. Transgenderism is completely inconsistent with gay pride and feminism, so they had to undermine both.
I don't really think this is really correct but it's also not wholly wrong.

There are sort of two different perspectives that are used to buttress troonism. On one hand there is the social constructionist view of gender and an associated scepticism of biological causes for differences in human behavior as well as a strong aversion to naturalistic moralizing. This is where notions like gender as performance and as being not inherently coupled to sex originate. To people thinking in this school, the question of whether someone simply is trans or why they wish to assume a given identity or form of gender expression is an irrelevant one; the extant social arrangements and conventions are not taken to be inherently 'superior' or 'natural'. In fact given the supposed 'oppressive' nature of these social arrangements then it is in fact radical - which is to say good - to subvert them and being an un-categorizable freak show is undeniably subversive. This is why you can literally write a book writing about how sissy porn turned you into a troon and be feted for it!*

This sort of thought is dependent on dismissing biology as significant or at least determining/constraining human behavioural possibilities significantly. So, the idea that there is some practical problem with allowing natal men into women's spaces is not really acknowledged and even if it is acknowledged it is likely to be conceptualized as a consequence of the extant power structures (e.g. patriarchy) and not as an unavoidable problem of biological origin. An interesting corollary to this general suspicion of biological forces as constraints is the aversion to the 'born-this-way' narrative of homosexuality. This here is a good example of this:
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(Source: https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/masha-gessen/)

It also captures the problem with this sort of thinking: its limited appeal. It's hard to convince people that heteronormativity is oppressive or that every form of social relationship that constrains behavior is arbitrary and should be deconstructed. Even if the masses could accept this kind of thinking and be willing to adopt a 'live and let live' type approach, it still doesn't help AGP-types since it fails to supply an explanation behind their specific motivations. It may be so that subverting gender norms is good but it doesn't help John (aged 41, married for 12 years, 3 children) explain to his soon-to-be ex-wife why he has suddenly decided to queer their marriage.

This gives rise to the second set of justifications, the familiar 'born-this-way'/'innate gender' narratives. This is what actually gets bandied around most of the time since it relies on widely accepted logic that drove acceptance of homosexuality and can be understood by anyone (GL explaining Judith Butler to 8 year olds), This makes it instrumentally valuable and ultimately what matters the most to troons: can you use it to justify acting out your fantasies without being socially sanctioned? Can you use it to deny explanations for your behavior which you find distressing?

The idea of some inborn brain error therefore became the main narrative device used by troons in the popular media. However, it's wrong to say that this makes troonist thinking contradict feminists like Cordelia Fine who seek to minimize or deny neurological sex differences. In fact, the idea that men and women don't differ psychologically has also obviously helped in suppressing people's doubts about the wisdom of troon ideas like self-ID and quite probably primed people to find the idea that you could in some sense have the 'wrong' brain (small mistakes happen, right?) since sex differences are seen to be less substantive than they actually are. The less significant sex is seen to be then the more relevant nebulous notion of 'gender identity' become.


The first perspective also still crops up, much of the language of troonism is taken from social constructionist accounts of gender and 'radical' ideas are adopted when they are useful. Serano, for example, posits a more or less evidence-free conjectural model for how gender identity (he calls it 'subconscious sex' which is IMO a better term), sexual orientation and gender expression are instantiated in each individual and exhibit natural variation. This is pretty much a 'wrong' brain/body model but he fills is books with gibberish that is obviously heavily influenced by social constructionist type thinking. I tend to think that this stuff gets thrown in when advocates are pressed because it helps bulk up an otherwise totally unjustifiable thesis because while the politics/culture that is associated with it is often very batty, the underlying scholarship can be quite solid. This makes it a nice accompaniment to under-evidenced scientific thought bubbles. In some cases it can even serve as the main argument and the terrible brain scan studies like Zhou et. al. can just be dispensed with altogether, even though when the troon goes to explain themselves personally they still resort to a 'wrong' brain narrative.

Zizek captures something of this strange dynamic:

*Colin 'Katy' Montgomerie, however, believes that Mr. Chu needs to see a therapist and read the science or something which is why I came to the scientific opinion that Colin jack(s/ed) off to sissy porn.
 
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