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A travel nurse has described the "horrific" scene at one hospital in El Paso, Texas, a city that has emerged as a new hotspot as the weathers its third and likely deadliest wave of the coronavirus.

In a nearly hourlong Facebook Live video published last Saturday, Lawanna Rivers said that she had served five postings at various hospitals during the COVID-19 pandemic, but her time at the University Medical Center of El Paso was by far the worst.

"Out of all the COVID assignments I've been on, this one here has really left me emotionally scarred," she said. "The facility I'm at has surpassed the one I was at in New York." New York was the epicenter of the US outbreak in the spring.

Rivers was most upset about how the sickest patients at the hospital were treated. She said they were all put into an area called a "pit," where they are essentially left to die.

"My first day at orientation, I was told that whatever patients go into the pit, they only come out in a body bag," Rivers said.

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A nurse enters a tent for coronavirus patients at the University Medical Center of El Paso on October 30, 2020. Cengiz Yar/Getty Images
Rivers said doctors at the hospital would not enter the area, and nurses like herself who were stationed in them were under orders to perform CPR just three times on a patient before letting them die.

Rivers said she learned that doctors wouldn't enter the pit when she called a physician for help one day with a patient who was bleeding profusely. She said the doctor told her they don't go into the rooms for the sickest COVID-19 patients, so as to not expose themselves to the disease.

In the three-and-a-half weeks that she was at the hospital, Rivers said she never once saw a doctor go into a COVID-19 pit.

"The doctors don't even step foot in those COVID rooms to see those patients ...We as nurses, it's OK for us to be exposed, but you as doctors, you don't even come in there. You can't get exposed, but we can and y'all are making all the money," she said.

Rivers said that she volunteered to work in a pit every day, hoping that continuity of care would help her patients get better — but that it didn't matter because they were too sick by that point.

Rivers said she believes that if the patients had received better care earlier on, it may have made a difference.

"I have never experienced, and have no words, for what I just experienced in El Paso, Texas," she said. "If those doctors there would aggressively treat those patients from the beginning, a lot more would make it."

Rivers also accused the hospital of giving special treatment to the wife of a doctor once. She said this woman, whom a nurse at one point called a "VIP" patient, was the only person to make it out of the ICU alive during her nearly a month at the hospital.

"They pulled out all the stops for that woman, it was nothing that they didn't do for that woman. And guess what? She was the one patient that made it out of the ICU alive, and was able to downgrade to a longterm acute care. So you mean to tell me because she's a doctor's wife, her life meant more than any of those other patients?"

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The University Medical Center of El Paso. Google Street View
In another shocking testimony, Rivers described how a worker once wheeled in a dead body into her unit because the morgue was full.

"The morgue was so full of bodies that they had ran out of room, so once the doors opened to the pit they come wheeling in a body already in a bag," she said.

"Lined 'em up with the rest of our alive patients, because they had to store the body in there, because the morgue was out of room. They've had to bring in freezer trucks because there's so many bodies."

Rivers said that she left her assignment in El Paso early because she couldn't bear to watch more patients die.

"I've seen so many deaths in this last month, than I've seen in my entire 13-year career," Rivers said.

She said she was also afraid for her life, and the kind of care she would receive if she got sick there.

"I kept saying: 'I can't get sick here in Texas, because if I get COVID here in Texas ... I'm going to die. It was that bad," she said.

Business Insider has contacted the University Medical Center of El Paso for comment.

The hospital has been releasing the same statement to local outlets about Rivers' video.

"After watching the video, while we cannot fully verify the events expressed, we empathize and sympathize with the difficult, physical and emotional toll that this pandemic takes on thousands of healthcare workers here and throughout our country," hospital spokesman Ryan Mielke said in the statement, according to KFOX 14.

"This particular travel nurse was at UMC briefly to help El Paso confront the surge of COVID-19 patients."

Texas currently has the most coronavirus cases in the US, according to Worldometer, and El Paso county has the third-most infections in the state, according to the Texas health department.

Earlier this month the county doubled its number of mobile morgues — which are typically refrigerated trucks — to store COVID-19 victims' bodies, and KFOX 14 reported that patients were dying at such a rate that medical examiners have not been able to keep up.
Oy vey goyim I got the coof in El Paso and these evil nazi doctors tried to throw me in a pit on a holocoaster
 
Although I rated this thunkful, this scenario would pose a bit of a dilemma for President-Elect Biden. He's been rather emphatic that more should be done to fight COVID. However, Democrats have also made it clear they favor open borders or policies that would seemingly make it easier to enter and stay in the US illegally. What would Biden do if too many people south of the border tried entering the US illegally while they were infected with COVID?
I know. Pretend it doesn't exist and if pointed out, call it "racist". It is the same playbook for all of the illegal immigration problems.

Besides, we all know people not wearing masks is the true problem here.
 
Two more weeks you fucking bigot!!! die grandma DIE

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It's going to be very very amusing when the governor's of blue states realize Biden and camel toe are corporate neoliberals and are no more likely to bail out the states than Trump was.
It's a good thing then that most blue state governors are corporate neoliberals too.
 
This number looks scary because they've brainwashed us into believing that this disease can be totally eradicated. Which might've been true back in January or February if China weren't ran by corrupt fucks who ignored their disease and then decided to show it to the rest of the world. Yet we still operate under the paradigm that we can somehow eradicate the disease no doubt as part of the sunk cost fallacy for all the economic damage that's been caused thanks to listening to The Science. That's part of why they obsess about the number of cases even if it's almost totally irrelevant to the actual damage the disease is causing.

Key observation--there isn't a single number or statistic given in that story. How many bodies? How big is this morgue? If your morgue can only hold 5 bodies and you now have 6, your morgue is "overflowing with bodies".
I once worked at a major urban hospital, and the morgue there had capacity for less than 20 bodies. A bad day with one of those superbugs that go around hospitals easily filled it every now and then. It wasn't even uncommon for bad days in the ER or ICU to result in temporary beds and ventilators being set up in hallways. It's just what happens in major urban hospitals from time to time. Even now most hospitals are well under capacity because they've stopped taking new patients and staff are more bored than ever.
 
Gassy deadpan manlet living in Florida (based DeSantis not giving in to lockdowns) gives a dumb take.

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Sounds like projection coming from the same crowd that'll go full soy mouth agape to any corporate/governmental entity that parrots BLM/Trans rights shit and uncritically accept whatever fuckery comes next from them.
 
Something seems off about this story.

One thing I've found to be a constant in life is that if this is your first thought after you read or hear a story, it's definitely bullshit.

Doesn't matter how many people accuse you of being a monster for not believing or ask "why would anybody lie about this?", it's always going to be bullshit in the end.
 
There is an entire "5G causes Covid" genre of conspiratardery these days; allegedly, Covid is the cover story for the fact that 5G is dangerous and makes people sick. It often goes hand-in-hand with another new flavor of tinhattery, which denies germ theory. Apparently, the body manufactures viruses in response to external stresses (such as 5G frequencies), rather than catching them from the environment.

There have actually been arson attacks this year against 5G towers in Europe, Australia, and here in the US, for that reason. But I'm calling BS on this particular story because I couldn't find anything in the news about it, and it's such a batshit thing to do, it would have made the news.
 
There is an entire "5G causes Covid" genre of conspiratardery these days; allegedly, Covid is the cover story for the fact that 5G is dangerous and makes people sick. It often goes hand-in-hand with another new flavor of tinhattery, which denies germ theory. Apparently, the body manufactures viruses in response to external stresses (such as 5G frequencies), rather than catching them from the environment.

There have actually been arson attacks this year against 5G towers in Europe, Australia, and here in the US, for that reason. But I'm calling BS on this particular story because I couldn't find anything in the news about it, and it's such a batshit thing to do, it would have made the news.
Yeah to be honest, there are some outright insane conspiracy theories about COVID.
I'm pretty sure IDpol fags of all colors have their own theories about how COVID is a plot by [_____] to kill/sterilize/depopulate [____].

There is a thread here on KiwiFarms to make fun of the loony conspiritards; but unfortunately its turned into circle-jerk of doomers and self-righteous types doing the Joker meme.
 

A travel nurse has described the "horrific" scene at one hospital in El Paso, Texas, a city that has emerged as a new hotspot as the weathers its third and likely deadliest wave of the coronavirus.

In a nearly hourlong Facebook Live video published last Saturday, Lawanna Rivers said that she had served five postings at various hospitals during the COVID-19 pandemic, but her time at the University Medical Center of El Paso was by far the worst.

"Out of all the COVID assignments I've been on, this one here has really left me emotionally scarred," she said. "The facility I'm at has surpassed the one I was at in New York." New York was the epicenter of the US outbreak in the spring.

Rivers was most upset about how the sickest patients at the hospital were treated. She said they were all put into an area called a "pit," where they are essentially left to die.

"My first day at orientation, I was told that whatever patients go into the pit, they only come out in a body bag," Rivers said.

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A nurse enters a tent for coronavirus patients at the University Medical Center of El Paso on October 30, 2020. Cengiz Yar/Getty Images
Rivers said doctors at the hospital would not enter the area, and nurses like herself who were stationed in them were under orders to perform CPR just three times on a patient before letting them die.

Rivers said she learned that doctors wouldn't enter the pit when she called a physician for help one day with a patient who was bleeding profusely. She said the doctor told her they don't go into the rooms for the sickest COVID-19 patients, so as to not expose themselves to the disease.

In the three-and-a-half weeks that she was at the hospital, Rivers said she never once saw a doctor go into a COVID-19 pit.

"The doctors don't even step foot in those COVID rooms to see those patients ...We as nurses, it's OK for us to be exposed, but you as doctors, you don't even come in there. You can't get exposed, but we can and y'all are making all the money," she said.

Rivers said that she volunteered to work in a pit every day, hoping that continuity of care would help her patients get better — but that it didn't matter because they were too sick by that point.

Rivers said she believes that if the patients had received better care earlier on, it may have made a difference.

"I have never experienced, and have no words, for what I just experienced in El Paso, Texas," she said. "If those doctors there would aggressively treat those patients from the beginning, a lot more would make it."

Rivers also accused the hospital of giving special treatment to the wife of a doctor once. She said this woman, whom a nurse at one point called a "VIP" patient, was the only person to make it out of the ICU alive during her nearly a month at the hospital.

"They pulled out all the stops for that woman, it was nothing that they didn't do for that woman. And guess what? She was the one patient that made it out of the ICU alive, and was able to downgrade to a longterm acute care. So you mean to tell me because she's a doctor's wife, her life meant more than any of those other patients?"

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The University Medical Center of El Paso. Google Street View
In another shocking testimony, Rivers described how a worker once wheeled in a dead body into her unit because the morgue was full.

"The morgue was so full of bodies that they had ran out of room, so once the doors opened to the pit they come wheeling in a body already in a bag," she said.

"Lined 'em up with the rest of our alive patients, because they had to store the body in there, because the morgue was out of room. They've had to bring in freezer trucks because there's so many bodies."

Rivers said that she left her assignment in El Paso early because she couldn't bear to watch more patients die.

"I've seen so many deaths in this last month, than I've seen in my entire 13-year career," Rivers said.

She said she was also afraid for her life, and the kind of care she would receive if she got sick there.

"I kept saying: 'I can't get sick here in Texas, because if I get COVID here in Texas ... I'm going to die. It was that bad," she said.

Business Insider has contacted the University Medical Center of El Paso for comment.

The hospital has been releasing the same statement to local outlets about Rivers' video.

"After watching the video, while we cannot fully verify the events expressed, we empathize and sympathize with the difficult, physical and emotional toll that this pandemic takes on thousands of healthcare workers here and throughout our country," hospital spokesman Ryan Mielke said in the statement, according to KFOX 14.

"This particular travel nurse was at UMC briefly to help El Paso confront the surge of COVID-19 patients."

Texas currently has the most coronavirus cases in the US, according to Worldometer, and El Paso county has the third-most infections in the state, according to the Texas health department.

Earlier this month the county doubled its number of mobile morgues — which are typically refrigerated trucks — to store COVID-19 victims' bodies, and KFOX 14 reported that patients were dying at such a rate that medical examiners have not been able to keep up.

Even assuming this is at least partly true, maybe nursing is a retarded choice of profession if you're that traumatized by being around sick/dead people. Also what is unreasonable about "only" performing CPR three times on a person who is in the ward for people who are more or less certifiably fucked? Surely an ICU nurse would be aware of what someone's quality of life is gonna look like if they've reached that point while receiving intensive care? If I'm so bad off that my body repeatedly shuts down in spite of a constant influx of medications and machines carrying out all the vital functions, and you still insist on breaking bones to wrestle a heartbeat back into me multiple times, I'm gonna claw my way out of my grave just to kick your fucking ass.
 
So for all of you claiming covid is no big deal, masks don’t work, etc., take a look at South Dakota. Over the course of a month, the death toll doubled. South Dakota has a population density of about 12 people per square mile. It has a covid death rate higher than Pennsylvania, a state with a population density of roughly 240 people per square mile. This shouldn’t be the case. The only major difference is that PA has instituted restrictions like mask mandates and bar curfews to curb the spread. South Dakota is approaching the per capita death rate of places hit early on in the pandemic, with far higher population densities. Fuck Kristi Noem, useless bitch has killed a thousand people here.
 
"The numbers are going up guys reeeeeee"

How many have died? What are the demographics? How many of them exhibit symptoms, and which ones? How many are severely sick instead of just having a mild cold? How many are asymptomatic?

The majority of the people I know who had it were asymptomatic or just had the sniffles, this includes people from the age of 12 to 65.
 
"The numbers are going up guys reeeeeee"

How many have died? What are the demographics? How many of them exhibit symptoms, and which ones? How many are severely sick instead of just having a mild cold? How many are asymptomatic?

The majority of the people I know who had it were asymptomatic or just had the sniffles, this includes people from the age of 12 to 65.
We’re closing in on 1k, most of it over the last two months. Fatalities range in age from 30’s to 90’s, majority are older. Hospitalizations are at the highest levels since the start of the outbreak. We’re running out of beds and staff.

Average flu deaths a year in SD is in the range of between 150 and 200. Over a single year. In less than 2 months we’ve had triple the deaths.

This isn’t just “ree numbers go up” either. This is uncontrolled exponential growth.
 
So for all of you claiming covid is no big deal, masks don’t work, etc., take a look at South Dakota. Over the course of a month, the death toll doubled. South Dakota has a population density of about 12 people per square mile. It has a covid death rate higher than Pennsylvania, a state with a population density of roughly 240 people per square mile. This shouldn’t be the case. The only major difference is that PA has instituted restrictions like mask mandates and bar curfews to curb the spread. South Dakota is approaching the per capita death rate of places hit early on in the pandemic, with far higher population densities. Fuck Kristi Noem, useless bitch has killed a thousand people here.
It doubled?

So it went from 30 to 60?
 
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