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Another reminder that the majority of agents representing children's books are absolute Orwellian lunatics:
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This is the sort of environment that creates genuine transgressives, so we have that to look forward to.
Man, instead of the Bible, you can probably ward these cunts off with a copy of Dangerous Visions.
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When I have kids, they are absolutely not reading anything written after 1998. Absolutely.
Although old boy-oriented books, when given to girls, can introduce the "grows into a Villains-Are-Sexy type" issue, but that's marginally better than dealing with whatever agenda is in anything new.
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Stuff like this is why more and more authors are self-publishing. Yeah you kinda have to write in certain genres if you decide to self-publish but you get way higher royalties (sometimes 70%) and never have to deal with people like this. Oh and you own all the rights to your stuff.
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Most of the best recently-published books I've read over the last few years have been self-published. Too many people in mainstream publishing have forgotten what a story even is, let alone how to tell a good one.
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That's strange. I assumed they were millennial women before I clicked the images. I wonder how I knew?
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Same here. And lot of traditionally published books have zero sense of fun and entertainment. Everything has to be leftie propaganda.
Also, the editing in trad books has gotten way worse until its at the same level as self-pubbed works who have to hire freelance editors. Several bestselling trad pubbed novels I have read lately were absolute filled with typos and continuity errors and mispellings. I'm not a grammar Nazi, but I don't see how they can claim to be so superior to self-published works, if they can't even have good editing anymore.
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The Bible wards them off too. Too much patriarchy and killing homos and non-believers in there.
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Another day, another white wamen crawling around, begging for forgiveness. For calling "locs" "dreadlocks," apparently. The horror.
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Apology accepted? LOL, what do you think?
Edit: This Reddit thread is nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be:
So, Naomi Novik's A Deadly Education is Accused of Being Problematic: a Non-White Reader's Review
Which might say as much about how low my expectorations are as anything else, but there you have it.
edit2: My "expectorations?" Possibly that fits, too.
LOL. YA twitter is the gift that keeps on giving. Like Herpes. No agenda being pushed here, you haterz! I'd say B&N can't go out of business fast enough to make me happy, but I'm sure Amazon is every bit as pozzed. Possibly worse.
The only people I'm aware of using "Latinx" are white feminists, though I suppose whoever runs B&Ns twitter is more like than not ...
Naomi Novik on Twitter: "I made a big mistake in #ADeadlyEducation, a…
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Apology accepted? LOL, what do you think?
Edit: This Reddit thread is nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be:
So, Naomi Novik's A Deadly Education is Accused of Being Problematic: a Non-White Reader's Review
Which might say as much about how low my expectorations are as anything else, but there you have it.
edit2: My "expectorations?" Possibly that fits, too.
LOL. YA twitter is the gift that keeps on giving. Like Herpes. No agenda being pushed here, you haterz! I'd say B&N can't go out of business fast enough to make me happy, but I'm sure Amazon is every bit as pozzed. Possibly worse.
The only people I'm aware of using "Latinx" are white feminists, though I suppose whoever runs B&Ns twitter is more like than not ...
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Yeah, "traditional Latinx" is an oxymoron 
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It's a bit scary how naive people are. This makes it sound like just telling someone 'Look dude, you can't say that. It's racist.' will make them think 'oh shit, you right. I'm sorry, I'll write something else.' Try that on an actual racist and see how it goes over. And I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take you at your word that something is 'problematic' anyway. You may think so, but what if a black person says 'I don't give a fuck, it's just words'? Also, again, they are WORDS. Don't like it, don't read it. Tell the person you're not interested in representing them. That's your right, just like it's MY right to write whatever the fuck I want.
If I made that mistake, under sane circumstances I'd say 'look, I made a mistake, I apologize. I'll fix it when I release a second edition.' There is no reason to post this wordy garbage for one 'passage' (so likely like one paragraph).Another day, another white wamen crawling around, begging for forgiveness. For calling "locs" "dreadlocks," apparently. The horror.
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Edit: This Reddit thread is nowhere near as bad as I expected it to be:
So, Naomi Novik's A Deadly Education is Accused of Being Problematic: a Non-White Reader's Review
Which might say as much about how low my expectorations are as anything else, but there you have it.
edit2: My "expectorations?" Possibly that fits, too.
Note I said under sane circumstances. Right now, things are to a point where I'm not apologizing for anything, even if I truly am sorry. Did I accidentally run over your dog? I'm not apologizing to you. If I apologize to you someone will demand I apologize for actively harming people with my words, so fuck that.
Isn't that ironic? They want people to take responsibility for their actions, which is normally a sentiment I am firmly behind, but they're going about in such a ridiculously stupid way that it's led to me (and many others) saying 'don't fucking apologize for anything'. So they're getting the OPPOSITE of what they want, all because they want to have a victim complex.
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There was apparently a huge sperg out on Twitter today, that I mostly missed. Something like 11,000 tweets on the topic, which is kinda weird about a 55 year old YA book, I'd think, but there it is.
First Ponyboy isn't gay, now this. How dare she!
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The Mary Sue adding their balanced and totally nuanced take (already!):
The Outsiders Author S.E. Hinton Has New Bad Opinion About Graphic Novels
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Mark me MATI, but I can't think of the last time I read an article at TMS and didn't want to punch the author by the end of reading it. Certainly the case here, even if I do think Hinton was being a bit unfair about GNs.
First Ponyboy isn't gay, now this. How dare she!
S. E. Hinton on Twitter: "No The Outsiders is the first book many peo…
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The Mary Sue adding their balanced and totally nuanced take (already!):
The Outsiders Author S.E. Hinton Has New Bad Opinion About Graphic Novels
'The Outsiders' Author S.E. Hinton Has New Bad Opinions | The Mary Sue
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Mark me MATI, but I can't think of the last time I read an article at TMS and didn't want to punch the author by the end of reading it. Certainly the case here, even if I do think Hinton was being a bit unfair about GNs.
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It may be influential but it’s certainly not “the first book many people read” and it’s pretty self-important for Hinton, who wrote the novel in her teens and has not published a major work in decades, to say so.
Sounds like someone is jealous.
See, I took her statement as not being 100% literal. Like, comparing a book like The Outsiders to Green Eggs and Ham isn't fair, obviously she didn't mean it the same way. But a graphic novel isn't comparable either. I can read a graphic novel in about an hour or two, tops. The Outsiders would probably take me a bit longer, but not by much.
And calling what she said about characters from The Outsiders being gay 'homophobic' is just totally ignoring what she said.
Is this person just still seething because several years ago Hinton told her that fanfiction isn't as good as whatever it's based on?
Sounds like someone is jealous.
See, I took her statement as not being 100% literal. Like, comparing a book like The Outsiders to Green Eggs and Ham isn't fair, obviously she didn't mean it the same way. But a graphic novel isn't comparable either. I can read a graphic novel in about an hour or two, tops. The Outsiders would probably take me a bit longer, but not by much.
And calling what she said about characters from The Outsiders being gay 'homophobic' is just totally ignoring what she said.
Is this person just still seething because several years ago Hinton told her that fanfiction isn't as good as whatever it's based on?
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It shocks me how many people bitch about authors being particular with the way their work is presented. This happened a few years ago in the world of local theatre when David Mamet forbade talkback sessions following performances of his plays. Let’s see how they like it when some lunatic on Twitter tries to marry their work with some insane political talking point.
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Woke white man self-flagellating on the altar of muh racism demanding his book be canceled while his Asian-American publisher apparently goes full banana and refuses to the see the issue in those terms. Or something like that. The book has already been pulled from most outlets excluding Amazon. But an effort is being made on that front.
White men with scraggly beards, truly the most oppressed group out there. Stop ignoring their voices!
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This YouTube channel made a video about it, though I'm afraid Geeky Sparkles' voice is increasingly grating on me as time goes on.
White men with scraggly beards, truly the most oppressed group out there. Stop ignoring their voices!
Author campaigns to cancel his his own book he says is racist. The As…
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https://reclaimthenet.org/author-cancels-own-book/Author campaigns to cancel his his own book he says is racist. The Asian-American publisher says it isn’t.
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Peak woke cancel culture.
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“Righteous indignation” among Canada’s otherwise finely-tuned sensibilities to any and all “woke culture” talking points and narratives – including the slippery slope of accusations of “cultural appropriation” that sees racism in some unlikely places – seems to be in full swing.
A children’s book author, Adam Pottle, went all the way to declare his own book as racist and sabotage his own work because he thought illustrations published in the book, The Most Awesome Character in the World, did not comply with the latest norms around wokeism.
In a tweet he called on Amazon to remove his book from their websites, as Powell’s, Barnes & Noble, and others have already done, at his behest.
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When he first lay eyes on the illustrations in his book – published by Sera Reycraft, Pottle said he “felt sick.” The illustration shows a girl wearing yukata, a traditional Japanese garb, and her hair is styled along the same line.
The publisher stood by the decision to include the illustrations that she saw as fun and celebratory of Japanese culture, rather than a bout of visual racism.
Reycraft is an American woman with Asian heritage who has a successful history of publishing books. She said, “the implication that depicting a Japanese girl in a wheelchair wearing a yukata is racist is a problem – because Japanese girls in wheelchairs can and do wear yukata. And like Philomena, we think that is beautiful.”
Book publisher Sera Reycraft
Nevertheless, Pottle appeared more than happy to shoot himself in the foot and plead for booksellers and readers to ignore his work.
Reycraft listened and has stopped selling and promoting the book, although it has not been pulled, probably as it would represent admission that the visual content and the intent behind it have indeed been racist.
The story itself deals with what’s described as a triumph of beautiful, breathtaking imagination for a deaf girl, Philomena. But apparently, neither Pottle nor his character are quite capable of extending all this extraordinary functional imagination to the girl wearing some Japanese clothes.
Pottle also seems worried that he might be called out for, and easily “canceled” if he is seen as supporting the illustrations which might be branded as “racist” – so he’s canceling himself.
“I don’t want people to get the idea that this is something that I support. It makes me really uncomfortable,” he said.
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This YouTube channel made a video about it, though I'm afraid Geeky Sparkles' voice is increasingly grating on me as time goes on.
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LOL what? Getting traditionally published is fucking hard. I can't imagine working towards that and then pulling my book at the last minute for some perceived slight.
His reaction (deciding he, a white person, knows racism against Asians better than an Asian) is far more racist than pretty much anything he could possibly put in the book, let alone what the supposed sin is.
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Dude: I was racist against Asians! I'm so terrible!
Asians: Nah, it's not offensive, you did nothing wrong.
Dude: SHUT UP! I know how you feel better than you do!
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Honestly, judging by the art on that cover, it's for the best he's deciding it shouldn't see the light of day ever again. The color scheme is simply atrocious.
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I think they're simply delaying the release while calling it a cancellation like what happened with Blood Heir.
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I thought you all might appreciate the latest YA/Book Twitter autism.
An educator posted this, not sure who:
And an author named Jess Cluess responded:
Well, this predictably upset the SJWs of YA/Book Twitter to an exceptional degree:
Here's a bit of the current IdPol lunacy that set off poor Jess:
An educator posted this, not sure who:
And an author named Jess Cluess responded:
Well, this predictably upset the SJWs of YA/Book Twitter to an exceptional degree:
Here's a bit of the current IdPol lunacy that set off poor Jess: