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Stuff my tortellini with your veal, please daddy. Fill my cannelloni shell to the brim with your spinach and cream cheese, hnnnnnnngghngh! My ravioli waits to be bathed and boiled in your salty hot water, and my spaghetti awaits your bolognese and meatballs. Slurp me up, daddy, slurp me up real good and let some of that tomato sauce get all over your mouth and chin. Let me lick it off you, daddy, and tell you what a naughty girl you've been. Call me daddy, daddy, and I shall spank you until your buttocks are tender yet al dente. For you are no longer the daddy: the daddy has become the big tiddy goth GF. For I was the GF and now the new daddy is me. And I am hole, and the Amhole shall reign supreme and slathered in hot creamy sauce, forever and ever, Amen.

All rise and pull down your pants for the benediction.
 
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Enoby Way said:
Uh... that's exactly why lesbians have it easier in traditional societies. You can't persecute them if they don't exist *taps head knowingly*. You are confusing recognition with automatic quality of life.
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No, I didn't mean that traditional cultures literally do not recognize lesbianism as something that exists, only that women are seen as not having a sexuality or sex drive of their own, so in many traditional cultures, this would mean "conversion therapy"... in the form of rape by a man. Or multiple men. This phenomenon is sadly still terribly common in many modern day African cultures, and the Nazis, to my knowledge, practiced a version of it.

I guess my point is that an expression of female sexuality (no traditional culture, to my knowledge, has ever rewarded female promiscuity, and a woman pursuing other women definitely cements the idea about women having their own sexual agency) that is not very tightly controlled is/was seen as a threat to social order. Lesbian women are persecuted and punished, only for different reasons than their male counterparts.

Traditional societies also tend to be ridiculously two-faced. You present one front to the public (the pious, virtuous, hard-working one) and another one in private affairs where deviancy and vice is tolerated to a high degree. A gay man can actually avoid persecution quite easily if he can keep his two "lives" separate. A lesbian woman in a culture where woman are equal to livestock doesn't have this privilege.
 
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Peaches Demure said:
No, I didn't mean that traditional cultures literally do not recognizing lesbianism as something that exists, only that women are seen as not having a sexuality or sex drive of their own, so in many traditional cultures, this would mean "conversion therapy"... in the form of rape by a man. Or multiple men. This phenomenon is sadly still terribly common in many modern day African cultures, and the Nazis, to my knowledge, practiced a version of it.

I guess my point is that an expression of female sexuality (no traditional culture, to my knowledge, has ever rewarded female promiscuity, and a woman pursuing other women definitely cements the idea about women having their own sexual agency) that is not very tightly controlled is/was seen as a threat to social order. Lesbian women are persucuted and punished, only for different reasons than their male counterparts.

Traditional societies also tend to be ridiculously two-faced. You present one front to the public (the pious, virtuous, hard-working one) and another one in private affairs where deviancy and vice is tolerated to a high degree. A gay man can actually avoid persecution quite easily if he can keep his two "lives" separate. A lesbian woman in a culture where woman are equal to livestock doesn't have this privilege.
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There was a period of time in the UK when male homosexuality was illegal and lesbianism wasn't, but that was because Queen Victoria refused to give royal assent to the legislation outlawing lesbianism because she didn't believe it was physically possible.

Of course, behind their famed public prudishness, the Victorians got up to all sorts of things that would be right at home on the Tranch.
 
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Peaches Demure said:
No, I didn't mean that traditional cultures literally do not recognizing lesbianism as something that exists, only that women are seen as not having a sexuality or sex drive of their own, so in many traditional cultures, this would mean "conversion therapy"... in the form of rape by a man. Or multiple men. This phenomenon is sadly still terribly common in many modern day African cultures, and the Nazis, to my knowledge, practiced a version of it.

I guess my point is that an expression of female sexuality (no traditional culture, to my knowledge, has ever rewarded female promiscuity, and a woman pursuing other women definitely cements the idea about women having their own sexual agency) that is not very tightly controlled is/was seen as a threat to social order. Lesbian women are persucuted and punished, only for different reasons than their male counterparts.

Traditional societies also tend to be ridiculously two-faced. You present one front to the public (the pious, virtuous, hard-working one) and another one in private affairs where deviancy and vice is tolerated to a high degree. A gay man can actually avoid persecution quite easily if he can keep his two "lives" separate. A lesbian woman in a culture where woman are equal to livestock doesn't have this privilege.
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Spunt said:
There was a period of time in the UK when male homosexuality was illegal and lesbianism wasn't, but that was because Queen Victoria refused to give royal assent to the legislation outlawing lesbianism because she didn't believe it was physically possible.

Of course, behind their famed public prudishness, the Victorians got up to all sorts of things that would be right at home on the Tranch.
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I am clearly far less informed than I thought I was and didn't even realise that that was the only reason lesbianism wasn't outlawed in Victorian England. This puts a shitton of holes in where I was coming from. So thanks for the info and for explaining more. I can be more informed AND more depressed at the shittiness of human society!

Now, let's get back to watching the Tranch before we garner any more autistic ratings between us (except, inevitably, on this post.)

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What morals lol.

Annnnnd Bonnie has been going through some stuff the past couple of days and it's kinda sad. He has clearly had a lot of differences with his family, probably due to troonery--but he doesn't hate them in a narcissist way, doesn't want to be around them but wants to know they're okay, and hasn't cut them off completely. More than we can say for most troons.

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(Side note, Actual work ethic! Kevin could learn something, but he won't.)

Poor Bonnie. Like, he still curb stomped a True and Honest woman in the name of women's rights, but like... this still sucks.
 
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Jesus Christ I know Kevin fetishizes turning people trans and most likely has autogynephilia but really? Everything about this motherfuckers identity comes down to sex lmao

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Also, sorry for the late edit but it's really telling that all Kevin cares about is sex. None of the trans people I know are trans because they find it hot, think it'll get them sex or some other degenerate bullshit. They're trans because of gender dysphoria and because they don't feel like their assigned gender. That's why I really doubt he's transgender, I think he's just a sex obsessed grifter lmao
 
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