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Well that's fucking stupid. I know that every social media platform in existence already polices that stuff. I guess they want the freedom to opt out of that ridiculous policy removed. Sounds wonderful.
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Dr J
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But that's exactly it. They don't want competition. Google, Twatter and Facebook are the only one with war chests big enough to fight the defamation/libel lawsuits if 230 is completely repealed, which means they keep/expand their dominance.
I'd say that Biden's actions really say it all. If Biden was the legitimate winner of the election, he'd call for transparency. It makes him look like a better leader than Trump, it assuages all doubt and makes Trump look like the bitter sore loser the media keeps claiming he is. But he's not, so he isn't.
We're really getting a taste of Biden's character here. He's always been a liar and a cheater.
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Exactly. It's classic regulatory capture. I'm sick of it. We have entire warehouses full of regulations that form monopolies, or virtual monopolies, that essentially let them do whatever the fuck they want, because fuck you, what're you gonna do? Go to some other website like Twitter? Good luck, retard, there are none. Fraudsters. Absolute frauds. Twitter is not what it used to be. Now that they have attracted a massive audience, and there's no competition, they feel like they can do whatever the fuck they want. It's criminal. There needs to be a law against this kind of shit.
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That stuff is what he said before the election, and Facebook, Twitter and Google will all be pointing at how they resisted so much and so hard for 4 years and helped him win it. They can totally lean on discouraging him to do anything to hurt them like the other big corps already do...
Yeah that sounds about what I expect, something that keeps 230, but makes genuine free speech impossible for any smaller outfits hoping to take a slice of the big tech pie.
That and times have changed, people fought for Net Neutrality but that was before Orange Man and Nazis were apparently around every corner. They'll cheer the dressed up democrat version of messing with 230 and Net Neutrality this time around when the new FFC chair inevitably does mess with it.
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There have been audits in every state. They happen every election.
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Ten bucks says it was a campaign contribution.
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The best part is that "fixing" 230 is potentially easy if implemented correctly.
My ideal fix would give weaker protections to the top 10-20 used social media sites based on Alexa SEO rank. So that means Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and reddit can be buttfucked to oblivion in lawsuits if they decide to go down that route. This would also allow other sites to compete. It would also exempt other sites which aren't about content that the censorship problem affects.
My ideal fix would give weaker protections to the top 10-20 used social media sites based on Alexa SEO rank. So that means Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and reddit can be buttfucked to oblivion in lawsuits if they decide to go down that route. This would also allow other sites to compete. It would also exempt other sites which aren't about content that the censorship problem affects.
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No. Treat sites equally according to the law. Punish violators who editorialize in bad faith. End of story.
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The issue here is though, it's not about how it *must* or how people *want* to implement it if it does end up happening. The issue is how it *will* be implemented, and that means as per usual, Facebook Twitter etc. are above the law.
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The easiest solution is just to strip Twatter of its 230 protection. It's the weakest of the three and won't survive constant legal batterings
Might also help to stop giving them that CIA money
Might also help to stop giving them that CIA money
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I like that. Nice simple, straight-forward solution. Twitter is not a newspaper and shouldn't editorialize as such, all the dumb stickers they put on everything to 'add more context' and their blatantly manipulated trending tag are as good as editorializing and they should bear the liability of doing so.
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Reminder that Twitter kicked it all off earlier this year by making a statement “allowing“ Trump’s post to stay up after blocking one (IIRC), as if they had the right to control what the POTUS could and could not post, and where he could post it. That was the most idiotic thing that could be done in the history of both business and the internet. Telling The President of the United States of America to shut up and actually trying to silence him are two completely different things. One is ignorable, because POTUS says whatever he wants, the other is normally corporate suicide.
Trump threatening to bring down the hammer is honestly a good response to an industry that tries to literally control the speech of the chief enforcer of the First Amendment. I get why everyone is mad but I would save most of the rage for Dorsey and Twitter. They are the source of the stupid, not Trump.
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I agreed with that until I saw what these fuckers do to manipulate natural information flow.
It is a virtual stranglehold on the spread of information, and by default is one of the worst monopolies in history. Since these sites began acting like propaganda arms of political organizations, there needs to be some repercussions. However, the reprocussions must only be directed at the assholes asking for it.
Call it a psuedo-trust bust, but the only way I think that retroactively solve the problem is through weakening 230 for extremely large social media sites only, so that smaller sites can thrive under the same current day 230 protections. It is the only effective way to deal with the problem without subsidizing these large sites in my view.
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Can someone explain what's going on with the election right now? How much is the Donald messing up?
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A wave of sedition charges is the only sane option I have for ya. It carries the death penalty. If he wins re-election, all he has to do is point out the raging masses to the GOP and Dems and asking whose blood do they want to see flow, theirs or a few key flunkies that have been running things into the ground? Suddenly everyone loves the death penalty for a few months.
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It's a toss-up worthy of a political thriller. Who knows, maybe this election will be made into a movie.
Well, one of his cases is going to Scotus, which was always the plan from the start and another is going to either the Wisconsin Supreme Court or Michigan Supreme Court.
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As mentioned earlier, this is not the DOJ. It's a lefty lawyer asking a judge to sign off on something. It's bait, and the media is pretending to be retared.
Although to be fair, when last we saw CNN's legal reporter, he was masturbating on a zoom call, so....
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A clusterfuck. Only pay attention to who becomes the winner at the end of it.
Oddly enough, he's chilling. Besides a Section 230 sperg here and there to keep Dorsey on his toes, he's constantly addressing instance of fraud and other tidbits that the normies won't hear from the media besides "Biden won." Who knows what's up with him?
The most people in this thread are blaming him for is not being psychic enough to prepare for fraud that was suppose to trickle down the predicted tight lead Trump was supposed to have instead of the crushing leads he held that caused panic and ballot spamming. Nothing else besides fraud impede his would be cruise to victory.
If you want someone messing up, his team of lolyers have had their time in the heat (Rudy especially) to cook, the RINOs who plague the Republican Party who need to have the Georgia runoff be the ultimate lesson in "Why cucking doesn't pay," and media for being sore winners; the guy lost, and yet I still hear more about him than the supposed winner of the election and most popular candidate ever in the history of our country.
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Don't worry too much about the last few pages of this thread. People are just engaging about Trump's stance on section 230 which isn't really releated to what's going on with the election at the moment in turns of lawsuits and what you have.
If you'd like to read it, I'm happy to give a bit of a state by state recap on what's going on at the moment.
Pennsylvania: It's complete and utter clusterfuck at the moment. So members of the state legislature lead by Doug Mastriano are trying to call an emergency session to reaffirm the state legislature's constitutional right to appoint electoral college electors whether or not they can pull that off remains to be seen. Beyond that the Pennslyvania GOP file a suit with SCOTUS that is trying to invailadte ballots that showed up after election and day and ballots that lack a post mark. However there's another filling that has been made to the SCOTUS that is sneaking a injunction against the Governor and Secetary of State of PA to further clarification of the PA results and if that injunction happens that would block the certification from being followed up on which I believe means that the electors picked by the SoS would be invalidated and it would fall upon the state legislature to pick electors in that case. Oh and a UPS whistleblower said that a shit ton of pre-completed ballots were delivered from New York to Pennslyvania on election day
Michigan: So there was a hearing Michigan held just like the ones held in Pensnlyvania last week and the one held in Arizona yesterday. It got off to a poor start but things turned around as it went on and it ended on a good note and it went well enough for the members of the state legislature to agree to a hearing with Rudy tomorrow night. So we will have to wait and see how that one plays out to get a good idea of where things are going in Michigan.
Wisconsin: Trump's Team just filed a suit to the Wiscosin Supreme court which seeks to challenge the validity of 220,000 ballots which is 200,000 more than the current margin of victory for Biden. Some people in this thread have said that the WSC is more likely to be favourable to trump but regardless it will most likely head to SCOTUS either way due to the fact that if Trump gets a favourable result the Democrats will most likely appeal it as they will be fearing a domino effect.
Georgia: The big thing to come out of Georgia today is that on Thursday there will be hearings like the ones held in Pennslyvania, Arizona and Michigan. It'll be interesting to see how those play out, I have heard that the state legislators were in the past putting pressure on Kemp and the Georgia SoS but I don't really know what kind of result the hearings will bring out. The only other thing I've heard from Georgia is that at about 2.05 PM EST tomorrow Sidney Powell and Lin Wood will be holding a press conference so it'll be interesting to see what they have to say, it might be in relation to the dominion machines they got the right to check out but I haven't heard much about that today so I don't really know what's going on with that or what they will have to say.
Arizona: The Arizona hearing held yesterday went really well and now it's just a matter of waiting for the Arizona legislators to call a special session in regards to the Arizona College electors. Haven't heard anything today.
Nevada: As far as I'm aware it's been pretty much radio silence from Nevada today, I do believe that there was something going on today after the Trump Team got a judge to approve them inspecting the election machines and containers used in the election.
Barnes was talking about Trump's mood on the VivaFrei stream the other day. He was saying that any narrative of Trump being depressed at the moment is bullshit. From the insight while working with Trump's team the guy is pretty calm and is acting upbeat about both potiential scenarios of whether or not he comes out on top of this.
He also mentioned there was something the other day that boosted Trump's spirits about pulling this off I wanna say it was something to do with the lack of signature matching but I could be wrong.
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