Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

[Wulfpack Legend]

 

[EyelessMC]

The fraud is so obvious that nobody can prove it.

It's not that the fraud is hard to prove--it isn't--but that the entire system has been so easily exploitable in the manner they are arguing for so long that to bring up the case now is to call the entire system's tabulating and counting mechanics into question. The fraud is obvious but it's a double-edged sword since the arguments being made against Biden could also be made against Trump.
It's just that busted of a system. It was being reported on even by CNN in '06. Why only now does it bother anyone? Because it's so blatant in light of a dementia addled child sniffer getting more Black votes than the first Black president? Okay, but how about that time Trump's folk were championing how he got the most Black votes of any Rep representative? Do Black people like cheetos that much?

Even if they could show a smoking gun to Biden himself the question would be, would it matter to the powers that be? If it did they'd have to get off their asses and actually change the entire electronic system and institute voting IDs--which, you know, while it sounds good it's also a lot of work. Neither Dems nor Reps are inclined to work (well, they'll have others work for them, but they're not gonna challenge a system they can exploit one way or the other).
I'd be inclined to start salting my gunpla if such a revolution of effort took place.

One side is gonna bow down, and it's gonna be the side of least resistance, whichever that may be.

Until then we can cringe together

 

[Pickle Dick]

Well. Mr. Biden. Or "Nedib", as I like to call you, in backwards spelling, 'cause you would [rhyme Nedib with something that implies Biden would hurt this country or whatever]. I have heard you won. Therefore, I hope you... Therefore, now you can feel the pain, 'cause... you're a mean one, Mr. Biden! Now go DIE!!! AND DIE AGAIN!!! DIE, BIDEN, DIE!!!

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

You'd think that these guys "stealing the data" in the largest scandal in American election history (that is so amazingly good that there's no evidence of it) would just write a script to do it behind the scenes, and not do it in Windows Explorer in front of everyone

So let's think about it for a while - suppose there's some executable on that USB, and the executable is written so badly that it doesn't autorun. Maybe the computers have manually had autorun turned off, and the lummus has to open up, browse the files, and manually run this corrupting file from within.

What would it be doing? Like, I see all of these allegations of fraud, and I have yet to see thorough explanations of how these supposed vectors work. Do people think that all of the SSN:Vote items are just tallied together via the scantrons in an excel sheet? Do the ballot counters on the floor mark up their totals and match SSN:vote and then manually punch them into a table? How would you then 'defraud' these?

Spoiler: Could you...?

Are you writing over values in the data, somehow erasing any backups which weren't locally hosted that had any trace of different values? Indeed, even erasing the trail on the local version of the file that would suggest an empty variable was changed not once, but twice? Are you searching for all potential voters which have not yet voted, and then setting their values to something - yet somehow staggering the point in time at which these values were changed? Are you tabulating these not-voted-for individuals and then running through duplications of ballots which have already been received - somehow avoiding anyone filming this at any point of the day in the massive variety of counties for which this is accused?

I don't even know what kind of script you could write, how this data is 'verified,' or what the potential avenues for abuse even fully are that could realistically be exploited - for example, do those machines have severely strict limitations on whether you can write any data on them? Would inputting a physical 2-factor identification key, IE a USB security key, allow you to make limited edits to certain programs or data sets, or would it allow you to make more substantial changes? Would they allow any form of executable to be run? Is there potentially some way to inject a script because of some known-about but retarded buffer overflow or something intentionally written into whatever software manages the votes? Etc, etc, etc.

Thusfar, the trump answer to all of this has been: "Oh, that's a good idea! Yeah, maybe they did that!" rather than some pretty fucking pointed and specific allegations. "They've made an algorithm, which detects when a candidate they don't like is getting too many votes, and it moves some of those votes over to the other candidate, or it shuts it down" was the closest thing that the shitcanned lady lawyer offered, which was just such complete nonsense screaming of baseline tech illiteracy. I'd have to go look that claim up again to capture how stupid it is.

 

[EyelessMC]

What would it be doing?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Didn't it turn out that the counties Trump won used Dominion software?

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

So, uh, you work any with computers? That GUI is so basic to set up, and you showed a bunch of zipped file folders with some names. Surely, this data would have been leaked to the entirety of the public to see for themselves if you could verify that it was bona-fide, because this is literally the plot of office space.

The suggestion here is that, for some reason, despite having to align votes with ID : Choice and then simply totaling those votes, which you could do in an integer, they're doing it in a double (or float or whatever the fuck, something with a decimal). And then, they're somehow systematically altering doubles for a given person such that the weights are different.

And somehow, there is no evidence that anyone can pull up or find to make those weights at all different? If the claim is honestly "it picks what the ratio will be at the end," which is almost what she suggests, I don't really know what to tell you. Surely you've got the files I can poke around in, right?

 

[Terrifik]

like we said great evidnce of it being true & like you said its too late & Congress & Republicans & Democrats don't care.
2000-2016 way is easy simpler kind of life

 

[Hippopatumus]

Didn't it turn out that the counties Trump won used Dominion software?

Good point. Why would the criminals rigging an election only rig the places necessary to win?

 

[Oreo Jenkins]

Good point. Why would the criminals rigging an election only rig the places necessary to win?

So why rig Georgia at all, it wasn't needed for Biden to win and you have to get the entire GOP leadership on board the conspiracy.

 

[Kerr Avon]

The Trump campaign is trying to undermine the democratic process.

LOL no , that was the Dems doing that the last four years.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Good point. Why would the criminals rigging an election only rig the places necessary to win?

And they would've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those QBoomers on Twitter and Parler with their terrible chart analysis

 

[potato in mah painus]

"Race Theorists" are people who are obsessed with the idea of IQ being tied to race while aggressively ignoring troves of science that either directly contradicts those views or argues for a lesser impact of genetics in favor of the environment. Basically, it's a way to call someone a dirty racist without making obsessed trumptards roll their eyes back and dismiss it purely on the basis of left being too obsessed with calling everyone a racist.

Conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories. Pizzagaters, 5g retards, covid schizos, people who think that this election got stolen despite there being virtually no solid evidence that could do shit in court etc.
There's more than enough to whatabout at anyone calling out lefties for those Russian collusion, hysterectomy and similar debacles.

I love seeing a textbook example of well poisoning and calling out on it. You lump all 'conspiracies' under a umbrella and just label them all crazy, discrediting ones that have evidence by comparing them to ones that are complete lunacy. You are a fool for falling into this trap if you are just a regular person, if intentionally shilling you would be better off serving the world hanging from a light pole wearing a noose.

 

[Chromatic Collector]

I love seeing a textbook example of well poisoning and calling out on it. You lump all 'conspiracies' under a umbrella and just label them all crazy, discrediting ones that have evidence by comparing them to ones that are complete lunacy. You are a fool for falling into this trap if you are just a regular person, if intentionally shilling you would be better off serving the world hanging from a light pole wearing a noose.

Wasn't MK-Ultra a conspiracy theory at one point?

 

[Psychic Espeon]

6 days till the Safe Harbor deadline hits, and a large batch of states will be certifying tomorrow.

 

[Techpriest]

So let's think about it for a while - suppose there's some executable on that USB, and the executable is written so badly that it doesn't autorun. Maybe the computers have manually had autorun turned off, and the lummus has to open up, browse the files, and manually run this corrupting file from within.

What would it be doing? Like, I see all of these allegations of fraud, and I have yet to see thorough explanations of how these supposed vectors work. Do people think that all of the SSN:Vote items are just tallied together via the scantrons in an excel sheet? Do the ballot counters on the floor mark up their totals and match SSN:vote and then manually punch them into a table? How would you then 'defraud' these?

Spoiler: Could you...?

Are you writing over values in the data, somehow erasing any backups which weren't locally hosted that had any trace of different values? Indeed, even erasing the trail on the local version of the file that would suggest an empty variable was changed not once, but twice? Are you searching for all potential voters which have not yet voted, and then setting their values to something - yet somehow staggering the point in time at which these values were changed? Are you tabulating these not-voted-for individuals and then running through duplications of ballots which have already been received - somehow avoiding anyone filming this at any point of the day in the massive variety of counties for which this is accused?

I don't even know what kind of script you could write, how this data is 'verified,' or what the potential avenues for abuse even fully are that could realistically be exploited - for example, do those machines have severely strict limitations on whether you can write any data on them? Would inputting a physical 2-factor identification key, IE a USB security key, allow you to make limited edits to certain programs or data sets, or would it allow you to make more substantial changes? Would they allow any form of executable to be run? Is there potentially some way to inject a script because of some known-about but retarded buffer overflow or something intentionally written into whatever software manages the votes? Etc, etc, etc.

Thusfar, the trump answer to all of this has been: "Oh, that's a good idea! Yeah, maybe they did that!" rather than some pretty fucking pointed and specific allegations. "They've made an algorithm, which detects when a candidate they don't like is getting too many votes, and it moves some of those votes over to the other candidate, or it shuts it down" was the closest thing that the shitcanned lady lawyer offered, which was just such complete nonsense screaming of baseline tech illiteracy. I'd have to go look that claim up again to capture how stupid it is.

For another thing, to conduct fraud like this, that would take a lot of time. You’d have to be checking or inputting fake ballots and votes, and implementing real votes, and somehow not mixing the two up and creating double votes, AND you’d need to do it with no mistakes and match registered voters or create new ones, which means you’d have to have compromised the voter registration in ~6 different states without anyone noticing. On top of that you’d have to have a list of real addresses that you could use so the fake voters look real. Then you’d have to have all these machines talking to each other. The whole scheme is so difficult that it’s easier to just not do at all. There’s so many damn moving parts that could go wrong.

EDIT: Essentially my point is that if this was fraud, you might as well not even try to fight it because anyone capable of pulling this shit off is part of a collective of some kind of ubermench galaxy brained geniuses.

 

[Hippopatumus]

For another thing, to conduct fraud like this, that would take a lot of time. You’d have to be checking or inputting fake ballots and votes, and implementing real votes, and somehow not mixing the two up and creating double votes, AND you’d need to do it with no mistakes and match registered voters or create new ones, which means you’d have to have compromised the voter registration in ~6 different states without anyone noticing. On top of that you’d have to have a list of real addresses that you could use so the fake voters look real. Then you’d have to have all these machines talking to each other. The whole scheme is so difficult that it’s easier to just not do at all. There’s so many damn moving parts that could go wrong.

Or you'd be sloppy as fuck and have your desperate late-night rig overturned in the courts. Time will tell.

 

[Techpriest]

Or you'd be sloppy as fuck and have your desperate late-night rig overturned in the courts. Time will tell.

PA, WI, MI, GA, AZ, and NV have certified. The Trump campaign has won exactly 1 lawsuit on very narrow legal grounds which disqualified like 53 ballots. If the courts were somehow magically going to give Trump the election they’d have done it by now.

 

[Terrifik]

6 days till the Safe Harbor deadline hits, and a large batch of states will be certifying tomorrow.
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getting exicited so it should be over Next week friday dec. 11th we will have to deal with this again 2024.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Or you'd be sloppy as fuck and have your desperate late-night rig overturned in the courts. Time will tell.

As it stands, I could have made these exact same claims for every single election in modern history, and found enough people willing to testify not to courts but to committees just as much. They've already tried to dress up a wet fart as a mythological sea creature, so unless Rudi pulls some chalk out of his pocket and draws the evidence into existence, there has yet to be anything but conjecture and hearsay in the case - if you ever have to defend yourself for some reason in court, let me suggest you don't hinge your case on either of those two things.

That doesn't mean that it's impossible, sure, but like. There's no benefit to waiting this long to unveil it, as the deadline could easily get passed while the shit's still being processed. Unless your goal is explicitly to trigger another Rutherford B. Hayes negotiation, I can't think of a reason to do so. (Well, unless you just want to start up your own news media empire and you're looking to make a lot of people feel like they're very smart and they've been very wronged.)