Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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The more I listened, the more I thought the Brit was the more reasonable of the two. Seems the other guy makes a lot of videos for the channel itself and they don't seem that great.
Yeah the brit was the easy going one I actually enjoyed listening to. He was calm and made actual commentary that wasn't saying "big yikes" and yelling.
The other guy was the stock annoying youtube loud one. It got annoying after a while.

I enjoyed that they pointed out how most of Lily's writing expertise stems from watching children's cartoons and arguing about shipping. And most of her writing tips aren't even fucking writing tips. They're spite fueled vagueposts.
 
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Regarding the two 'professional writers', yeah, I had to stop listening partway through the assessment, too, because they were also totally down with certain parts of Lily's advice based on 'YEAH REPRESENTATION WOO!'. Huge red flag from the start that one of them said "yeah I know Lily Orchard, I've watched some of her stuff, I like it".

Still, as 'professional writers' they might have a certain perspective, right? Figured out pretty quick that they really don't. As far as I can tell, they're 'professional writers' insofar as they write for a scripted podcast. They aren't noveslists and they haven't written scripts for actual shows. They do make a living writing for that podcast, as far as I can tell, but a podcast is a very different environment than actually being professional writers in the way that the phrase would make you assume. If you listen to some of their commentary it's pretty clear they're biased and don't actually have much by way of analytical prowess (which usually comes part and parcel with being a professional writer-- or at least one worth listening to. I mean, Stephanie Meyer is technically a professional writer.)

Not to disparage their writing (because I'm totally unfamiliar with it,), but just because they get paid for their writing doesn't mean they should be listened to by default. Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy for a reason, especially when the basis of your 'authority' is already dubious.
I made it through the whole thing, but the 'representation' portion was just the two of them kinda huffing their own farts over how they write all these diverse characters for their podcast, like non-binary gremlins and Native-American werewolves or whatever. Felt kinda like they do the Tumblr thing where they have a checklist of various minorities they need to include so they don't get in trouble. Again, I haven't checked out their podcast, so I don't know if these characters and their identities feel natural or are more like 'Oh, hey, there's Tina the trans-gendered vampire! How are you?'

'Trans-tastic!'

I will say, I do like how they nailed Lily's preferences, boiling it down to just fluffy coffee-shop AUs where conflict only arrises over petty melodrama that is always resolved by re-affirming their love.
 
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I don't recall anyone asking to see pictures of rape injuries, you'd think she'd bring that up whenever her fans annoy her.
If anyone has archives of that I'd love to see.

Aside from that I suppose Lily is entitled to her injuries, but being raped twice and stabbed is a lot with little to no evidence.
It's especially thrown into question when she casually lies to her fans.
What gets me is A) no one is demanding pictures of her scars. B) she has 0 proof, not even a police report or a doctors note/bill or anything like that. On the face of it it would seem very rude to ask someone to see the scar but these people dont understand that Lily is a habitual liar. It's not so much that we don't want to believe her but rather she's made claims like this in the past with no proof. She should have paperwork, a scar, a police report, anything to show even a smidgen of proof, but she doesn't.

Think of Markiplier, when he goes to the hospital over a thing his fans would be worried about he vlogs in the hospital telling his fans not to worry. That shows 2 things. 1) he cares about others enough to give them reassurance that he will be fine and 2) proof that hes not bullshitting his fans for pity points and a day off. Lily doesn't do either of those things leaving us to wonder if she's even telling the truth and if she is why not just show it to dismiss the rumors. Its like not showing your receipt when the guy at Walmart asks to check it. Either you show them or they call over security to make sure you aren't lying and you end up causing a whole situation that didn't need to happen had just shown the receipt in the first place.

No one on this site would deny that Lily got stabbed had she just shown anything related to it outside of saying "i got stabbed" and demanding pity and respect from her followers. Same goes for her rape allegations even though those are much harder to prove. She has nothing and without any tangible proof we have no reason to believe her especially when she "bends the truth" so frequently.
 
bruh, couldnt endure this video when thye started soing the andrew dobson stop sexist crap with quiet, professional my ass
Yeah, that's what I deserve for posting shit before I watched it.

Any bets that in five years Jerry's current positions will be the societal norm in Canada and he'll have moved onto something even more insane?
 
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New comic, more demonizing Lizzy. Its so trippy to me that Lily is actively writing this. Imagine breaking up with an fully grown woman and then a year or two later she and her new GF make a comic demonizing you by having a gardevoir explain that you were abusive trying to split apart a pokemon from its owner to a half-pokemon half-human child. Its surreal.
 
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This is worse than Chris Chan now. At least when he put real people into his comics there was the autism excuse. Lily is actively doing this to spite people and knows exactly what she's doing.
 
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This shit just reaffirms Lily's main motivation for everything is spite. This shit to spite her ex, The Sith Resurgence to spite "the Reylos", The Horde Champion to spite Blizzard's writing. She doesn't have a goddamn non-spiteful bone in her body.

And the thing that perfectly represents that is the motherfucking "le sniffle". Here's this comic she's trying to pass off as serious and emotional, where a child is being told about a "horrible" person that hurt her mother... And she puts in a fucking "le sniffle". She's enveloped and obsessed with being spiteful to, what, one anon that asked her to stop using "le" in front of everything? Even after all this time she has to stick by her guns and stick that in there to spite that one jackoff who dared tried to tell her what to do!

For fuck sake, Lily, get a fucking life. For once try to fucking make something without spite as the motivator. And then promptly fuck off with it so we don't have to see the pile that you shit out.
 
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She can't even stay consistent between two 'pages' of this comic. "See, Bonnie, this mean lady was like the sun. And now that I've set up a metaphor that we establish you understand, since you understand 'the mean lady' without any context, I'm going to completely abandon it."

Given that Bonnie couldn't comprehend the concept a minute ago, she winds up crying over it pretty easily. I know this is one of those things where the author says 'see, this third party gets it!' and then tries to pretend that, since it's an observer making the statement, it's more reliable than if the main characters did. Doesn't work, Lily. You're still the one writing for all of them.

(Also, why does Bonnie have mandibles? I know that was part of the original design but unless Gardevoir has some kind of elaborate cross-breeding in her family tree to inherit some rare egg moves, she isn't going to impart mandibles on Bonnie. Unless those came from Lily, in which case, that sounds like a way more interesting premise than anything else in this comic.)

Other than that... dunno, G. You have Lily have a dangerously unhealthy relationship that has many times been acknowledged as dangerously unhealthy. The Mean Lady sounds less like she wanted to control Lily's life and more that she was trying to save Lily from G. Given that G mind-raped Lily, Lizzy was completely correct in being concerned and wanting to get G out of Lily's life.

...given that Lily has complained that Lizzy didn't accept that Lily was 'polyamorous', I'm a little concerned about how much of this story overlaps to the biographical.
 
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That's it. Lily isn't a human in my eyes. It's a fucking abomination and that needs treat like "it", not "he" or "she", those pronouns are too rich.
It's literally controlling the truth in this. Probably it done earlier with answerings and shit but with a comic now. I'm done.
I'll still try to archive what I can btw
 
Given that Bonnie couldn't comprehend the concept a minute ago, she winds up crying over it pretty easily. I know this is one of those things where the author says 'see, this third party gets it!' and then tries to pretend that, since it's an observer making the statement, it's more reliable than if the main characters did. Doesn't work, Lily. You're still the one writing for all of them.

(Also, why does Bonnie have mandibles? I know that was part of the original design but unless Gardevoir has some kind of elaborate cross-breeding in her family tree to inherit some rare egg moves, she isn't going to impart mandibles on Bonnie. Unless those came from Lily, in which case, that sounds like a way more interesting premise than anything else in this comic.)
Methinks there was some very particular cross contamination in Comic!Lily's DNA profile...
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Other than that... dunno, G. You have Lily have a dangerously unhealthy relationship that has many times been acknowledged as dangerously unhealthy. The Mean Lady sounds less like she wanted to control Lily's life and more that she was trying to save Lily from G. Given that G mind-raped Lily, Lizzy was completely correct in being concerned and wanting to get G out of Lily's life.

...given that Lily has complained that Lizzy didn't accept that Lily was 'polyamorous', I'm a little concerned about how much of this story overlaps to the biographical.
I speculated a while back that on the AU where Lizzy ends up murdering G could have been done because Lizzy was the only one to truly see how awful she was to Liliana's life, and was desperate enough to try to save the woman she loved that she had to take drastic measures. Every single version of G has been a horribly manipulative selfish asshole (one kept insisting to fucking until her Liliana finally accepted and the other one takes advantage of a high Liliana to fuck her), so why should that G be any different? For all we know, that G could have physically raped her Liliana in an attempt to get her to admit her feeling for her, Tara Callie's style, and Lizzie was rightfully horrified when finding out.

The more I think about it, the more I think Liliana accidentally made her version of Lizzy into the only true hero character she has ever written. A brave woman that dared to do the impossible (kill a overpowered pokemon) just to try to save someone else, even despite knowing it might not bring her any rewards or recognition, even if that meant losing someone she loved, just because it was the right thing to do. Unironically much more compelling than Lalaina, Rey or Sylvanas combined.

For sure that Liliana and G are going to be the ones to represent Lizzy as the bad one when she attempted to make them break an unhealthy toxic relationship for both of their sakes. On the context of this story, it would be understandable that C!Lizzy'd prefered to break up the relationship rather than keep seeing her future wife devoting herself more to her abuser than anyone else, because that was less painfull that marrying someone to whom she was always going to be second place, living with both a condependent unstable mess and her violently possesive pet. A beautifully tragic heroine that had to do the hardest thing ever for her own wellbeing before it was too late, the kind that in rom com means leaving on the altar the guy that was never going to make her happy to chase her own dreams.

The best part of this reading is that there is nothing on the text to contradict any of it. G and Liliana are both unreliable narrators since their perspectives are so self-centered into their own relationship, so one logically can't take their words as gospel. G especially since she has already shown how she failed to realize Liliana didn't had a crush on her anymore, so one can logically only doubt about her own perception of how mean or cruel anyone else is.

I don't know how much of this is autobiographical. We do know that Liliana would actually tell Lizzy that she developed crushes on other people and thought it was so terrible of her not accept her future wife telling her that.
 
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Wow. That's like a genuinely reprehensible thing to do with the mediums of writing and illustration.
But I can only laugh. Lily sits here and bloviates about how horrible her ex is while forcing her current fiance to draw a comic where she gets to fuck a Gardevoir that reaffirms all her beliefs.
That's so pathetic. Get fucked Lily.
How fucking whipped is Mikail that she'd agree to do this

Meanwhile Lizzy has moved on and is doing positive and wholesome commissions and not giving two shits about Lily's assblasted seething.
I reiterate: get fucked Lily.
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My only problem with Mikaila, as I think I have expressed before, is her total lack of any backbone or self respect, but even that just reflects back to Liliana because she is the one taking advantage that Mikaila will never say no to her and will never demand from her to respect any limit. Liliana as a fiancee has:

-Dismissed openly Mikaila's art skills. I think I've never heard Liliana say one positive things about Mikaila's art beyond "this art about this ship I like is soft". Not even one compliment for her art for it's own sake. Sure, we all know that her art objectively isn't good and she needs to improve in many areas that are considered basic for any illustrator, but what kind of girlfriend is only supportive of the habilities of their partner as long it's something for them or about them?

-This also includes put down her art for the comic, that she does for free, for the sake of only elevating her own writing by saying "it doesn't matter" even though comics are most definitely a visual medium and could save even something with terrible writing.

-Talked about how the only thing worthwhile about Mikaila as a person is being there, implying that the moment she is not available for her at the drop of the hat she won't be worth it. Refer back to that post about Liliana complaining that Mikaila got a job and therefore will have a life outside of being little Miss Doormat, which talks too about what kind of expectations Liliana has for Mikaila once/if they married of she becoming a housewife, no mention if that even is something Mikaila wants or would chose for herself.

-As other has said, openly advocate for Mikaila to become a target of harassment too if that at least mean some of it will get off her back.

-Use Mikaila as a napkin in which shread all her tears without once being a emotional support system to Mikaila back.

-Never once made any mention about Mikaila's channel if I remember correctly? Even though she has the bigger audience and that would help tremendesly for her growth? Why a collabortion between the two of them was never an option? The Kim Possible chick had a lot more presence and influence on the channel than her.

-Refused to change her name even though that means that Mikaila will be stuck with the name she thinks is of a rapist and abuser, worse than that, the rapist and abuser that raped and abused the woman she loves.

-Try to constantly shove gifts on her face even if she didn't need to or asked to. This could seem like a romantic gesture coming from any other person, and normally that would be the case, but when we are talking about Liliana there is this sense that she is only buying presents as a way to buy her love and convince her that everything she does and say is fine because, look, I got you this brand new computer for you, honey, I can't be all that bad. If Liliana really wanted Mikaila to have cool shit, then why don't comission her properly? Be a patreon. Give her some actual compensation for the labor she does so then she can use the money on things she wants. But we can't have that because that would imply allowing some sense of independence on Mikaila and Liliana can't have that.

And throught out all of this, not once Mikaila realized she is being treated like shit because Liliana only has to give her a little bit of lovebombing and she comes back for more. I don't hate her on any capacity, in fact I think she could be a nice and caring person, but she does frustrate me in how she lets all of this pass as it was normal to be treated basically as an art slave whose work doesn't deserve any merits by the same person you intend to marry.
Well I'm pretty sure the reason she sticks around in the first place is the lack of self respect. If you only love yourself 20%, someone who loves you 30% is gonna feel like a major upgrade, even when it's below the bare minimum. That's part of the reason why people stay in abusive relationships.
 
I love how much Lilly just utterly fails at depicting Lizzy as the bad guy. She can't even make shit up, just vaugly say she was bad and controlling followed by two examples of completely acceptable shit. Lizzy was so bad she dared to... Try to keep her girlfriend away from an unhealthy relationship with her rapist and... Fell out of love with Lilly. The horror, everyone knows that even if you fall out of love or stop being attracted to your significant other, you should still stay in a dead end relationship that makes you miserable. What kind of monster would think otherwise?

Lilly, the Abuser being the one who doesn't want to end the relationship is basic shit. How do you fuck this up!?
 
I dont think Lily deserves the benefit of the doubt on well, anything. She's been known as a pathological liar and instigator who can't appreciate anything and thinks she can boss good writers around. Her mocking of Contrapoints adapting alcoholism due to constant harassment and the other abusive as hell videos would make any sane person question any unsubstantiated claims of abuse.
 
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