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Everything about this is funny. He is an anarchist ‘educator’ who has not even read Marx. There are exactly zero people in replies and quote tweets ‘gatekeeping and cancelling’ him. The insinuation that 600-page book is unreasonably long or that 19th-century literature is hard to read.

Lefties so often say the proles cannot be expected to read a long and complicated book because they work a lot and have no time. But, I argue modern-age proles cannot read it because they have short attention spans and no patience. After all, they manage to watch YouTube and binge Netflix.
 
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Everything about this is funny. He is an anarchist ‘educator’ who has not even read Marx. There are exactly zero people in replies and quote tweets ‘gatekeeping and cancelling’ him. The insinuation that 600-page book is unreasonably long or that 19th-century literature is hard to read.

Lefties so often say the proles cannot be expected to read a long and complicated book because they work a lot and have no time. But, I argue modern-age proles cannot read it because they have short attention spans and no patience. After all, they manage to watch YouTube and binge Netflix.
The cherry on top is that common reply to someone not understanding the differences between communists, anarcho-communists and marxist-leninists is "read theory", which most of them haven't. And if they had they probably didn't understand it, and if they did it's useless anyways cause 95% of their theory was written in late 19th - early 20th century which means it's useless now
The other thing is that he's apparently promoting an ideology he doesn't even understand that well

Here's his channel
Despite not knowing that much about communism he sure seems to speak authoritatively on it. Anyhoo more on him. He's a 'murican who got disillusioned with capitalism was a looser in US so he moved to Vietnam where he is an exotic looser now. There he got himself a very special waifu (girlfriend, technically). Interestingly he was on forefront of the whole BreadTube thing. The high point of his career was his debate with Destiny, but he did very poorly so it was also the low point. He's also been advocating for "reform centers" - gulags but nice:

This top tier cringe:
 
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The cherry on top is that common reply to someone not understanding the differences between communists, anarcho-communists and marxist-leninists is "read theory", which most of them haven't. And if they had they probably didn't understand it, and if they did it's useless anyways cause 95% of their theory was written in late 19th - early 20th century which means it's useless now
The other thing is that he's apparently promoting an ideology he doesn't even understand that well
Political conversations online are rubbish because very few discussants understand anything. People are not willing to even read a short Wikipedia article, opting to ask randoms to explain things that are one Google search away. Meanwhile, said randoms themselves do not understand the things they are explaining. They are also often fifteen.

Despite not knowing that much about communism he sure seems to speak authoritatively on it. Anyhoo more on him. He's a 'murican who got disillusioned with capitalism was a looser in US so he moved to Vietnam where he is an exotic looser now. There he got himself a very special waifu (girlfriend, technically). Interestingly he was on forefront of the whole BreadTube thing. The high point of his career was his debate with Destiny, but he did very poorly so it was also the low point. He's also been advocating for "reform centers" - gulags but nice:
I have been following him with one eye since his video The PewDiePipeline and its sequel blew up. Like many channels which got big in the heyday of BreadTube, his is losing viewers under the weight of his laziness, talentlessness, and ugliness. There is something comical about it.
 
The fedora crowd would not exist if it weren't for the moral conservatives fucking up so badly in the second half of the 20th Century and not only failing to adapt but actively trying to conserve the shit that should not be conserved.

Christianity is no longer a viable force in the First World and has been on a steady decline in the West since the mid-20th Century. It's thriving in the Third World and in Slavic countries, but it's dead in Western Europe and dying rapidly in the United States.

What comes after that will be extreme nihilism or post-religious movements taking it's place.
 
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How BreadTube saved this random faggot from the "alt-right":

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>Cliche opening
>"I didn't want to make this"
>Explains his background (British, remembers the Iraq war, Christian background, Labour family)
>Mentions that he found out about Communism during high school and thought it fit with his "Christian Values" (i.e. no starving people) and how people called him naive for thinking that it could work.
>Mentions being in vidya
>Mentions that COD made him think that Communism was "cool"
>"Stalin was a true and honest communist"
>Says he became more moderate
>"The last year of high school and moving into college made me depressed 'n shiiiieeet"
>Blames the YouTube algorithm, Pewdiepie, and larger anti-SJWs for teaching him wrong think
>Admits that the people he mentioned aren't alt-right (Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Tim Pool, Sargon, etc.)
>"I was duped by simple ideas and didn't appreciate my privilege"
>"I never once heard a compelling argument against Bernie Sanders"
>"I'm sorry about spreading wrong-think to my friends and family"
>Credits the usual BreadTubers (Contrapoints, Vaush, PhilsophyTube etc.)
>"BreadTube made me a good person"
>Basically admits that the YouTube algorithm shaped his political worldview
>"It's never too late to be liberated"
All these stories are either lies or they are demostraighting how uninformed there political opinions are. as they either tried to join up with what every they perceived to be popular or want the attention from claiming to have been saved for. the alt right. despite the fact most alt right to alt left swappers are rather bad people to begin with, and the fact ben, Peterson, and sargon did far more in stopping people from joining the alt right. these stories are only copy pasted so sjws can try to feel better about still being the butt of the joke.

Overall, I think having the mother of his children dump him and spend her day posting (about) her boobs and how she wants to fuck all the time on Twitter made him lose it a bit. He posts shit like this all the time now:
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His breakdown started around November 10th, probably from realizing that Biden will become president in the end. You might think that Peter is the type to be happy about that, but he's a part of extremely Twitter movement called Bernie or Bust - meaning they were rabbid Bernie fans who thought not voting for Biden would make DNC cater to their every demand ("communism now" I guess, very feasible position). That Biden got elected proved what everyone else knew anyways - that few thousand of extremely online idiots with super fringe ideologies won't make or break an election.
The thing with BreadTube and Coffin is that he's getting called "class reductionist" constantly by them. Class reductionist is someone who ignores idpol and thinks all problems stem from class (ie if everyone would be equally wealthy there would be no discriminations of any sorts). So all that culminated into this:

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Also there was this cringe tweet that went like "the day of reckoning is coming, stay tuned". It's since been deleted but he kept it in his banner:
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That and the "Peter Coffin is out of patience" name change. I guess he's kinda preparing something that he sees as a big dunk on BreadTube (which I imagine will be a flop that no one will give a fuck about, given the downwards direction his channel is going). Meanwhile he produces increasingly deranged fleets and spends most of his time having his slave Angie Speaks [circle]jerk him off on his streams and whiteknighting her on Twitter. In case you're wondering she's a britbonger and married
The amount of cope his post about bread tube being the "new skeptics" is some of the highest I have seen. he'll most just look at each other's moronic statements and go "yeah that's totaly true folks". hell they refuse to question there own dogma at every turn.

Also berny or busters were the most pathetic parts of the 2020 election. even more then the trumper cope. imagen being threatened by a bunch of people far to young to vote or never bothered voting in the first place with "unless you make my perfected candidate win I don't vote for you"
 
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So is there one guy that comes up with a template for these stories, or are these guys so uncreative and ignorant that they repeat the same story of Sargon and frog memes making them an evil Hitler-nazi that was saved by Contrapoints or whoever?
 
This recent exchange with a conservative under Anarchistara's video on homelessness was fantastic and worth reading in full:

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Hey Georgia, I don't know if you read KF but if you ever see this post, you showed this BreadTuber what's what and did so as gracefully as a ballerina. If I had given into the temptation of going into his Discord server to argue with him and his SJW cult I would've been a lot more overtly incredulous so thank you for setting the right example. As for Cheetara's arguments...

"maybe take your bullseye off of me", whoa, chillax Cheetara, no one has painted a target on your back. Since you've evidently found KF (I know you are lurking here because you alluded to my comments about your messy haircut during your last Gamestream), the reason I highlighted your channel, despite the fact that you're a relatively new BreadTuber, because 1) your content is admittedly more watchable than others (though this might change if you keep modelling yourself after Vaush and Xanderpig) and 2) you are textbook example of the kind of frustrated idealistic young man that the SJW TRA cult likes to recruit and use as a keyboard warrior, so I used you as an anecdote of the kind of person they radicalize in the opposite direction, not as a "target". It's the SJW TRA cult that is targeting you, and I actually think it's a tremendous loss when otherwise intelligent people like you end up joining that SJW cult, it's a loss to society as a whole and especially a loss to yourself as a person.

Now, with regards to the above argument, posting statements about yourself such as "you don't know me, you don't know my history in activism" without providing the receipts for your humble-bragging is a non-argument. I too can go around the internet claiming to be a superactivist with a long career in activism, but as long people cannot verify your statements for themselves you might as well not bring this up at all. All I know about you based on your videos is that:

1) you ran some kind of a food-bank at some point but you took the food from the pantry for yourself

2) you tried to get into mainstream activism by hooking up with the Dems but you burned out because they were not exactly very receptive to your anarchism

3) you deny being radicalized by BreadTube and instead claim you were "radicalized by my own life experience" because you grew up in a neighborhood where a lot of people were working in law enforcement as cops, and you ended up ACAB because you saw what cops are like off-duty, basically the cliché about how "cops are never really off-duty". (I am guessing on the basis of this story that you're from a working class/lower-middle class neighborhood and that my guess about you not growing up rich is correct - unlike these BreadTubers you worship who are mostly from rich families, especially ContraPoints and PhilosophyTube. Did you know that the world-famous pop-singer Pink - yes, that Pink - is ContraPoints' cousin? He openly revealed this on a public Livestream back in 2017.)

Now, without doxxing yourself (don't worry, we can take care of that ourselves here on KF just fine) by all means unroll your history in activism for us and openly take pride in the fact that you helped save the clouded leopard from extinction with your credit-card activism or whatever you actually did as a seasoned activist. I for one look forward to browsing your supposedly voluminous activist resume.

As for your statements about homelessness, go and watch Tim Pool, whom I am sure your SJW cult hates and insists you shouldn't watch. Tim Pool was at some point in his life homeless himself and eventually he became involved with homeless aid, so he's speaking on the basis of personal experience, not hypotheticals and political theory. He has told this story many times in his videos about how he and the other aid workers would try to get homeless people to the shelter, pleading with them to accept their help, and yet some of the homeless just didn't want to go to the shelter, they actively refused all help and insisted camping in public when an alternative was offered to them. By all means tell us what the anarchist solution to this refusal would be, other than force which you insist you're above.

Finally, pray do tell why you are following the #ancap hashtag on Reddit specifically, given that you identify as a leftwing/collectivist anarchist. Did you local Antifa chapter ask you to keep the tabs on libertarians online or are you secretly reading contraband libertarian materials because individualism is too irresistible a concept for you?

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That's actually what Christians did 2000 years ago. Christians of course weren't very happy with pagan practicies, so they incorporated some of them into Christianity.
Christianity will decline even further in the West when they can't reform themselves (This doesn't mean going woke. It means developing principles that fit better into our modern world).
The fact is that industrialization has changed our way of living and of course this big transition from an agricultural society to a industrialized one disrupted traditional values. One example I often give is women's rights. Hunter and gatherer societies tend to be often (not always) egalitarian, agricultural socities tend to very patriarchal and it seems industrialized societies get more egaltarian again.
Is it really a coincidence that the first feminist movements more or less emerged during the dawn of industralization? Not really, since...
1) Industrialization increased the need of factory worker
2) Women were rarely seen working outside of home unless they were prostitutes, hence they were a potential work force
3) This brought women out of their home. Hence they were less dependent on men and sooner or later demanded more rights.

Even without feminist movements this was often the case and we see the trend everywhere: Rich industrialized and urbanized countries tend to give women more or equal rights (Of course it depends on the country. Sweden is more feminist than Japan and China, but both countries grant women today more right than 300 years ago), whereas poor, less industrialized and less urbanized countries tend to treat women more in a traditional way. Countries like Saudi Arabia are an exception. However, Saudi Arabia would be a shit hole without oil and hence didnt' really had the transition from agriculture to industry like most other countries. The oil thing isn't going so well for Saudi Arabia anymore and they have to restructure their economy now. What trends do we see now? Even Saudi Arabia granted in the last year women more rights, allowed musical festivals and cinemas etc. Their grasp on hypertraditional culture only worked as long as they were in a bubble. Even the theocarts in Iran have to balance their traditionalism with new social developments. This is often confusing to Western people, since they think that women who for example don't want to wear a hijab must be feminist women who love the West. In reality many women in Iran are strongly muslim and want the theocracy to stay, but don't want the state to tell them how to dress.

Now modernity has brought troubles: declining fertility rates (Not just in Western countries, in all developed countries. Even Saudi Arabia has trouble now to keep their fertility rate up), high divorce rates (even in developed muslim countries where only men can divorce a woman), alienation etc. Of course we need solutions for this, but trying to chain women back to the kitchen just won't work anymore, since we don't live in an agricultural society anymore. Without solutions our society might collapse, the same way many civilizations collapsed when they transitioned from hunter and gatherer societies to agricultural societies (Archaeologial sights often show that many of them collapsed in the beginning of the neolithic because they overused the soil, made it infertile and finally starved to death).
I'm actually open for solutions, but until today I've never heard anything that convinces me. BreadTube is a joke and probably just a scam of rich corporations. It's quite suspicious that "far left" movements are nowadays often supported by rich people. Furthermore troonery shouldn't really be a focus of a genuine leftist agenda. The Greeks, Romans and Anatolians treated imo troons just fine: Let them live, let them earn their money (often through prostituion), but never put them on a pedestal. It was common in Greece to have temples where almost only people who we'd call troons today served and they often get fucked by heterosexual man for money (There was no contraception at that time so troons were often used to satisfy lust but without the consequences of getting children)

NRx? They often address the problems but their solutions are horrible (some of them really think that monarchies will save us all). Some of their ideas haven't aged very well either (Who would have thought about woke companies 15 years ago?)

Now back to BreadTube (Sorry for the distraction). Has someone more information about the beef between Peter Coffin (They/Them) and BreadTube? I heard and read something here and there, but since I don't have Twitter I don't really know what it is all about.
The Iranian government is actually extremely unpopular because it's subject to sanctions and fuel prices skyrocketed. Widespread rioting in 2019 led to them shutting the internet down and killing over 1,000 people in a show of force. The only reason they still exist is because of their support base in fanatical rural areas and sheer terror. I'd be shocked if anyone who was secular enough not to cover her head had any time for them at all.
 
The Iranian government is actually extremely unpopular because it's subject to sanctions and fuel prices skyrocketed. Widespread rioting in 2019 led to them shutting the internet down and killing over 1,000 people in a show of force. The only reason they still exist is because of their support base in fanatical rural areas and sheer terror. I'd be shocked if anyone who was secular enough not to cover her head had any time for them at all.
Sure, but it's much more due to economic reasons, right? I've got Iranian relatives who are very unhappy with the government but not because of religious reasons, but this is of course just an anecdote. Maybe it also depends where the people are from in Iran. As far as I know the biggest support for the Iranian revolution came rather from the rural area, and not the more secularized urban population.
 
Sure, but it's much more due to economic reasons, right? I've got Iranian relatives who are very unhappy with the government but not because of religious reasons, but this is of course just an anecdote. Maybe it also depends where the people are from in Iran. As far as I know the biggest support for the Iranian revolution came rather from the rural area, and not the more secularized urban population.
It did, but the country was a lot poorer and more rural in 1979 than it is now. Average fertility dropped from 6 back then to only 2 now. There are still plenty of fanatics to recruit for the revolutionary guard, but the composition of the population has changed.

I agree though that if anything topples the regime, it will be economics.
 
The cherry on top is that common reply to someone not understanding the differences between communists, anarcho-communists and marxist-leninists is "read theory", which most of them haven't. And if they had they probably didn't understand it, and if they did it's useless anyways cause 95% of their theory was written in late 19th - early 20th century which means it's useless now
The other thing is that he's apparently promoting an ideology he doesn't even understand that well
This, to me, has always been the biggest mark against these neocommunist communities & ideas. Their views are based off of theory that has aged about as well as Karl Marx's corpse. No one in the western world today is a factory labourer working 16 hour shifts for a pittance with a life expectancy under 30 years, and their bosses aren't fat bastards in tuxedos smoking cigars and drinking fine wines as they twirl their mustaches wondering how they can milk a few more cents out of their workforce. Theory none of them have even read, at that. Yet even now, that is what the lefties on the internet point towards, and that's how they believe the world looks like as they fantasize about being a member of the Red Guard during the Russian civil war. It's all very delusional. If a normie flipped their way through the Communist Manifest or Das Kapital, he wouldn't be thinking that's he's discovered some groundbreaking theory on how the world works, he'd very quickly conclude that he's lucky to not be living in the 19th century.

There's several questions these people should ask themselves.
  1. If you truly represent the working class, then why is said Working Class not overwhelmingly supporting you?
  2. If the working class truly wanted socialism, why are they voting for people like Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders instead?
  3. If the people so desperately need socialism like you claim, why did Bernie get humiliated in two election cycles? Why was his second presidential run worse than the first? Why did Jeremy Corbyn get obliterated in his election?
  4. Why are all of your figure heads a bunch of internet personalities / social media 'influencers'?
Answering these questions would lead to a conclusion they really do not want to hear - There is no platform for communism in the 21st century. Most people don't give a fuck about trannies' rights to dilate their neovaginas in public. Most workers want a raise and some more time off, not the right to string up their boss. But that's something breadtubers don't want to hear. They want to hide in their little internet echo chambers, talk to their fellow trooners that the end of capitalism is really coming this time™, and rake in some superchat money. If they just tweet enough, and upload more videos pwning thA cHudz, the revolution must surely come. Newsflash: It won't, and maybe a handful of spergs like Peter will realize that.
 
This, to me, has always been the biggest mark against these neocommunist communities & ideas. Their views are based off of theory that has aged about as well as Karl Marx's corpse. No one in the western world today is a factory labourer working 16 hour shifts for a pittance with a life expectancy under 30 years, and their bosses aren't fat bastards in tuxedos smoking cigars and drinking fine wines as they twirl their mustaches wondering how they can milk a few more cents out of their workforce. Theory none of them have even read, at that. Yet even now, that is what the lefties on the internet point towards, and that's how they believe the world looks like as they fantasize about being a member of the Red Guard during the Russian civil war. It's all very delusional. If a normie flipped their way through the Communist Manifest or Das Kapital, he wouldn't be thinking that's he's discovered some groundbreaking theory on how the world works, he'd very quickly conclude that he's lucky to not be living in the 19th century.

There's several questions these people should ask themselves.
  1. If you truly represent the working class, then why is said Working Class not overwhelmingly supporting you?
  2. If the working class truly wanted socialism, why are they voting for people like Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders instead?
  3. If the people so desperately need socialism like you claim, why did Bernie get humiliated in two election cycles? Why was his second presidential run worse than the first? Why did Jeremy Corbyn get obliterated in his election?
  4. Why are all of your figure heads a bunch of internet personalities / social media 'influencers'?
Answering these questions would lead to a conclusion they really do not want to hear - There is no platform for communism in the 21st century. Most people don't give a fuck about trannies' rights to dilate their neovaginas in public. Most workers want a raise and some more time off, not the right to string up their boss. But that's something breadtubers don't want to hear. They want to hide in their little internet echo chambers, talk to their fellow trooners that the end of capitalism is really coming this time™, and rake in some superchat money. If they just tweet enough, and upload more videos pwning thA cHudz, the revolution must surely come. Newsflash: It won't, and maybe a handful of spergs like Peter will realize that.
Even in his day, Marx's assessment of labour theory of value and teleological history were wrong. I would say, though, that in poorer countries communism does still have a chance of trying (and failing) again. The post-industrial states are just too affluent for it to be viable.
 
This, to me, has always been the biggest mark against these neocommunist communities & ideas. Their views are based off of theory that has aged about as well as Karl Marx's corpse. No one in the western world today is a factory labourer working 16 hour shifts for a pittance with a life expectancy under 30 years, and their bosses aren't fat bastards in tuxedos smoking cigars and drinking fine wines as they twirl their mustaches wondering how they can milk a few more cents out of their workforce. Theory none of them have even read, at that. Yet even now, that is what the lefties on the internet point towards, and that's how they believe the world looks like as they fantasize about being a member of the Red Guard during the Russian civil war. It's all very delusional. If a normie flipped their way through the Communist Manifest or Das Kapital, he wouldn't be thinking that's he's discovered some groundbreaking theory on how the world works, he'd very quickly conclude that he's lucky to not be living in the 19th century.

There's several questions these people should ask themselves.
  1. If you truly represent the working class, then why is said Working Class not overwhelmingly supporting you?
  2. If the working class truly wanted socialism, why are they voting for people like Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders instead?
  3. If the people so desperately need socialism like you claim, why did Bernie get humiliated in two election cycles? Why was his second presidential run worse than the first? Why did Jeremy Corbyn get obliterated in his election?
  4. Why are all of your figure heads a bunch of internet personalities / social media 'influencers'?
Answering these questions would lead to a conclusion they really do not want to hear - There is no platform for communism in the 21st century. Most people don't give a fuck about trannies' rights to dilate their neovaginas in public. Most workers want a raise and some more time off, not the right to string up their boss. But that's something breadtubers don't want to hear. They want to hide in their little internet echo chambers, talk to their fellow trooners that the end of capitalism is really coming this time™, and rake in some superchat money. If they just tweet enough, and upload more videos pwning thA cHudz, the revolution must surely come. Newsflash: It won't, and maybe a handful of spergs like Peter will realize that.
this also work on non communist berny bro. he'll just asking. why they make no attempts them selves to live in a manno more aligned with there moral code. you know, not buying exspecive luxury products.
Even in his day, Marx's assessment of labour theory of value and teleological history were wrong. I would say, though, that in poorer countries communism does still have a chance of trying (and failing) again. The post-industrial states are just too affluent for it to be viable.
even then you need a charismaticcand smart revolutionary to have the will to lead or at the very least star the over throwing of capitalism.
 
Been looking at Xanderhal and he is remarkably guillible and oblivious to skeptic drama

My favourate part is watching him smugly vape in the side box as though he's got the stepfather. But the whole thing is gold, from his ignorance about who mundaine matt is despite trying to be a left wing drama youtubber to his refusal to admit error in the comments.

Love that song though.
 
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Been looking at Xanderhal and he is remarkably guillible and oblivious to skeptic drama

My favourate part is watching him smugly vape in the side box as though he's got the stepfather. But the whole thing is gold, from his ignorance about who mundaine matt is despite trying to be a left wing drama youtubber to his refusal to admit error in the comments.

Love that song though.
what, a breadtube not knowing what there is talking about? color me shocked. it's funny to see them act like the skeptics did a few years ago, but based entirely on confirming there own biases and dillusions. Say what you will about the anti-sjws, but at least they were able to decern reality for the most part from their dillusions.
 
Was watching Sam Seder this morning, there was an incredibly awkward moment came on where some guy wants some loud victory cry for his dead nephew baby because there's no more somber song effects and the looks on their faces tells it all :story:
 
Been looking at Xanderhal and he is remarkably guillible and oblivious to skeptic drama

My favourate part is watching him smugly vape in the side box as though he's got the stepfather. But the whole thing is gold, from his ignorance about who mundaine matt is despite trying to be a left wing drama youtubber to his refusal to admit error in the comments.

Love that song though.
what, a breadtube not knowing what there is talking about? color me shocked. it's funny to see them act like the skeptics did a few years ago, but based entirely on confirming there own biases and dillusions. Say what you will about the anti-sjws, but at least they were able to decern reality for the most part from their dillusions.
Xanderhal is just cloutchasing and doing this purely for views because he can complain about "racist cucks". He's admitted in the past before that he browses kiwifarms, how KF is nazis who doxxxxx and swat the left tubers on here.
If he knows what Kiwifarms is enough to read it, I have difficulty believing he didn't do this intentionally as a stunt to both piss off the right and be able to BTFO racist cucks for leftists.

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Xanderhal is just cloutchasing and doing this purely for views because he can complain about "racist cucks". He's admitted in the past before that he browses kiwifarms, how KF is nazis who doxxxxx and swat the left tubers on here.
If he knows what Kiwifarms is enough to read it, I have difficulty believing he didn't do this intentionally as a stunt to both piss off the right and be able to BTFO racist cucks for leftists.

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That's actually worse because he's disingenious as well as stupid since he comes across as a cretin to anyone in the know and creates a massive risk that his own fans may notice he's lying.

I fucking love the fact he thinks we perceive him or vaush as a 'threat'. I don't know about you but they actually accidently endorse my views on breadtube (bassically tabloid tier shit) rather than challange them.
 
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