Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

does anyone look normal in this game?
I guess it depends on what you mean by normal but Victor the ripperdoc looks comparatively normal. I think his deal is that he has little, if no cyberware or augmentations. And while I wouldn't say she looks "normal", Jackie's girlfriend Misty is very obviously based off of Pris. They still look pretty alternative, but they aren't gaudy.

What really pissed me off was CDPR putting their e-celeb streamers in the game.
That kind of annoyed me too, but I'm hoping they aren't too obnoxious.
 
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How would you suggest they fix "COD-like" gunplay exactly?
By not making the gameplay like CoD.
Cyberpunk has a lot of things working against it since it's trying to be a mass market shooter, an RPG and have high production values but it was theoretically possible for it to have been a good game if it took inspiration from something with good gameplay.
 
Back to that Polygon article. It is everything I absolutely expected. However there is one thing that I really have to focus on - their "muh crunch" thing. Now, in all fairness, there was probably in reality more crunch than CDPR admitted to. But there was also colossal crunch in the production of Last of Us 2, yet Polygon and their ilk really seem to have given it a pass because Drunkmann is one of the good guys (tm).

I am betting you any money that the Woko Haram types will mark this down for crunch while ignoring it in their reviews or more "progressive" games.

I guess it depends on what you mean by normal but Victor the ripperdoc looks comparatively normal. I think his deal is that he has little, if no cyberware or augmentations. And while I wouldn't say she looks "normal", Jackie's girlfriend Misty is very obviously based off of Pris. They still look pretty alternative, but they aren't gaudy.

I think the point is that in a world where consoomerism is rampant and the popular culture is degenerate to the point of feeding off its own degeneracy (i.e. a funhouse mirror version of current year the same way that the tabletop game was a funhouse mirror version of 1987), this is normal.

I recall in one of the previews there was a quest where you had to rescue someone who refused all cyberware because it was against his religion and the idea that anyone would reject something that improves your physical capabilities at the risk of your own mental stability was seen as laughable by everyone. When everyone is a freak, normies are anathema.
 
I mean it fucking failed certification for christs sake and that usually means either the game does not run or is bricking consoles.
Actually, it can also just mean using the wrong word in any of the texts - like menu instead of options, or clicking a button instead or something controller related. It doesn't necessarily mean the game is bricking the consoles or doesn't run. And I mean, did you play Wasteland 3? Or which game recently was said to brick the PS5? Was it Spiderman or Valhalla? Or Watchdogs? Because I'm 100% sure there was a new game recently that'd brick people's consoles. Games buggy to hell and back, that sometimes are literally unplayable, can still pass certification ez.
 
By not making the gameplay like CoD.
Cyberpunk has a lot of things working against it since it's trying to be a mass market shooter, an RPG and have high production values but it was theoretically possible for it to have been a good game if it took inspiration from something with good gameplay.
You mean like taking inspiration from Titanfall?
 
You mean like taking inspiration from Titanfall?

too complicated for normie tards, see titanfall's "success". hence the dumbed down gameplay, CDPR is catering to the likes of arthur gies and dean takahashi.

They'll be more likely to throw a shit fit over there being only 6 skin types tbh.

it's not the amount, it's the color. as long as there's a black one it's progressive and brave. till they find something else to whine about, like no wheelchair option.
 
it's not the amount, it's the color. as long as there's a black one it's progressive and brave. till they find something else to whine about, like no wheelchair option.
In the one leaked video it showed all of them. There's:
1. Blackest night in Africa skin
2. Regular brown skin
3. Tanned/Olive skin
4. Yellowish skin
5. Regular white skin
6. Ivory white skin

I'm curious if you can get the cyber surgery to look like the Autograph robot girl, but I doubt it. That'll probably just be special NPC's only.
 
Lol Metacuck is not allowing any reviews of this game until release. The shilling is so obvious at this point, holy shit. Would sure hurt our democracy or something if people could get opinions about things before buying them.

Edit: Remember the time when games would get reviewed a month before release and have many previews even earlier in gaming magazines and everyone had time to make up his mind with elaborate test videos etc? And does anyone remember demo versions where you could try a level or two to see if you like the game?
I was fucking shocked when Mass Effect 3 of all games had an actual decent demo version - with two missions! It was the one good thing about that game imo.
 
In the one leaked video it showed all of them. There's:
1. Blackest night in Africa skin
2. Regular brown skin
3. Tanned/Olive skin
4. Yellowish skin
5. Regular white skin
6. Ivory white skin

I'm curious if you can get the cyber surgery to look like the Autograph robot girl, but I doubt it. That'll probably just be special NPC's only.

Just had a thought. Since you can get total skin changes (Lizzy Wizzy, for example), how about if a white character got a skin transplant for a BIPOC. Just imagine how problematic that would be and how much screeching wound ensue at this "digital blackface."
 
Lol Metacuck is not allowing any reviews of this game until release. The shilling is so obvious at this point, holy shit. Would sure hurt our democracy or something if people could get opinions about things before buying them.

Edit: Remember the time when games would get reviewed a month before release and have many previews even earlier in gaming magazines and everyone had time to make up his mind with elaborate test videos etc? And does anyone remember demo versions where you could try a level or two to see if you like the game?
Video game journalism (as most tech journalism) is corrupt and worthless.
 
Reminder that Marcin Iwiński, the co-founder of CD Projekt pirated games back in the 80's and 90's, only to start reselling legit copies by founding CD Projekt, and also that Witcher 2 had DRM and CDP sent legal letters to people that pirated W2, therefore they are in no position to moralfag about copyright and piracy.
 
I've been reading some pages of this thread and I feel like people are being unnecessarily pessimistic. The game isn't even out yet and judging snippets means little in terms of the big picture. Think of Skyrim. That game had idiotically simplistic combat and levelling systems, numerous technical flaws and a stupid story, but as a coherent whole it worked pretty alright and it has decent replayability. Call me :optimistic: but I think the game will be at least a 7/10.

If it will be objectively shit, I'll change my avatar to a dumpster truck for another month.
 
The more I hear and see about the game the less interested I am. It honestly looks like a game that doesn't know what it wants to be, copying popular elements and leaning way too hard into the "punk" part of cyberpunk, to the point the art style looks both banal and overly complex and detailed at the same time, somehow.
 
She's actually just pissy because if you take the dev's words and force them into a different context you can construe them as being critical of gender reassignment surgery/piercings/tats/ dumb snowflake modifications like Zoe Quinn's magnet.

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Although she also makes the argument that "sanctity of the human body isn't one of the main themes of cyberpunk" which I guess is true enough because very few Cyberpunk authors explicitly make value judgments about it. However, one of the main themes of cyberpunk is the question "At what point of modification does one cease being human?" and Cyberpunk 20XX and Shadowrun have had the position that cybernetic modification is not good for your mental well being and at some point you cease to be human in any real sense.

(If you want to be more cynical about it, it's a gameplay mechanic to balance otherwise how good cybernetic modifications are. In Shadowrun for example cybernetic modifications directly reduce your ability to wield magic. But the loss of humanity is tied into lore so whatever)

So this is really just a case of someone who doesn't know about the source material looking at popular thing for some reason to become triggered.

Anyway, I've never actually finished a Witcher game but I'd still like this to be a good game because I love me some cyberpunk.

I would argue otherwise. Purity of the body is a theme in juxtaposition to the overt technology of Cyberpunk. A good example is how William Gibson depicts Molly as unable to cry, so she has to spit out her tears instead because her tear ducts got diverted to her mouth once she put the mirrorshades in place.

Or how Tessier-Ashford would fuck the clones of his late daughter, often in terrible ways, and kill them. Until 3Jane decided that shit wasn't going to fly so she had the people doing the Straylight Run assassinate him.

Inhumanity vs Humanity, Purity of Life vs Impurity of Technology have always been present in cyberpunk, from its very onset.
 
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