Opinion The world does not need more “manly men” - If a man can’t wear a dress, what can he do?

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The world does not need more “manly men”


By Jacob Gelman 4 hours ago · 9 comments

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After the English singer/songwriter Harry Styles broke history as the first man on the cover of Vogue, and did it in a dress, the far right in America regarded it as an attack on traditional masculinity.

Candace Owens, in a now viral Twitter response, said that “There is no society that can survive without strong men. The East knows this. In the west, the steady feminization of our men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to our children is not a coincidence. It is an outright attack.” Owen’s statements sparked a national debate about gender roles, masculinity, and, yes, men in dresses. Most recently, Styles even commented on these remarks – posting to Instagram with the caption “Bring back manly men.”
Critics argue that the left wants to “feminize our men” and there is no society that can survive without them; making the case that it is unnatural for men to wear dresses or even act feminine. But, at the end of the day – they’re all wrong: there is no such thing as “masculinity” or “femininity” in the first place.

When most right-wingers mention masculinity, they usually mean American masculinity: dominance, a lack of emotion, ego oriented, emphasis on religion, and traditional family structures. But, they also seem to conveniently forget the multiple cultures today in which men don’t conform to their idea of “masculinity” and hold men to such constricting ideals of manhood. In many parts of the East, which Owens seemed to point to as a pillar of masculinity, American conceptions of masculinity are not the norm. In India, for example, many men wear Kurtas – long garments – which would be considered dresses in America. It is even common for men in India to show emotion and hold hands with male friends while walking together. In South Korea, it is common, even expected, for men to wear makeup while in different social situations. And, in Japan, men traditionally wore kimonos – a choice of clothing which would also mirror a dress in America. Beyond the East, though, there are still many other cultures which do not treat masculinity the same way as America’s constricted sense of what a man “should be.” Nordic countries, for example, have little separation between male and female gender roles – emphasizing the responsibility of both men and women to be modest, tender, and concerned with quality of life.

Just a few hundred years ago, our understanding of masculinity would be completely different from what was practiced. In both Britain and America, before the nineteenth century, men in high positions of power would wear large wigs, makeup, and heels – adorned by flowing and extravagant clothing choices diametrically opposed to what people like Candace Owens seem to believe is “normal.” Even George Washington, according to the logic of those opposed to the Vogue cover, was somehow wrong to wear what he did. The bigger point is this: the very idea of what it means to be “strong”, in relation to being a man, is one that is fluid and socially constructed – with no universal continuity.

Beyond that, though, the argument that men wearing dresses is somehow unethical or even “perverted” is ignorant at best and harmful at worst. There are many cultures today in which men wearing dresses is more than acceptable, and can even be considered the norm. In addition, throughout history, there have been countless societies that flip our ideas of gender and sexuality out of the window. PBS even has an interactive map showing the hundreds of gender – diverse cultures that have existed in the past and to this day, carrying with them ideas of gender expression and identity that allow for fluidity. To argue that a piece of fabric on someone’s body can be considered wrong is as logical as arguing that a certain favorite color is immoral. More than that, it demonizes entire cultures and furthers the idea that America is somehow superior and more knowledgeable than all other peoples and customs.

All in all, the idea that a man in a dress is somehow “wrong” is completely unfounded in any sense of logic. However, it shows the way American gender roles have come to control all aspects of life. People’s expression, emotion, interests, speech patterns, clothing choices, hair styles – every aspect of existence in America is policed by what we have, in the last two hundred years, constructed as “normal” for a man or woman. But, isn’t America supposed to be the freest nation on Earth? If a man can’t wear a dress, what can he do? America must work towards a reality without strict gender roles – where we allow people to exist as themselves. This includes a man in a dress who wears makeup and works in fashion as much as it includes a man with a business suit who works in finance and enjoys football. So, no, the world doesn’t need more manly men – there is no such thing as “manly.”

 
Beyond that, though, the argument that men wearing dresses is somehow unethical or even “perverted” is ignorant at best and harmful at worst. There are many cultures today in which men wearing dresses is more than acceptable, and can even be considered the norm.

Yet when we do some playful ribbing about men looking ridiculous wearing dresses, we get called out for saying “hate speech”. Don’t be disingenuous.

In addition, throughout history, there have been countless societies that flip our ideas of gender and sexuality out of the window. PBS even has an interactive map showing the hundreds of gender – diverse cultures that have existed in the past and to this day, carrying with them ideas of gender expression and identity that allow for fluidity.

Fluidity is not the same thing as sexuality. You keep using the “throughout history“ argument while trying to distort it by having to use politicized agendas to demonize men, who just so happen to be straight and (sometimes) white.

To argue that a piece of fabric on someone’s body can be considered wrong is as logical as arguing that a certain favorite color is immoral. More than that, it demonizes entire cultures and furthers the idea that America is somehow superior and more knowledgeable than all other peoples and customs.

Americans should not be held responsible for dealing with people that want to regress society back to the lack of manliness. And what’s wrong with America being #1 since most foreigners come here wanting a better a life than the actual Americans who sprout anti-Americanism ideals like this?
 
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The only reason you're able to reside in a society that allows you to be a useless waste of oxygen that has everything you need to survive and more while doing nothing for any of it is because of those manly men you hate so much, you dumb fagcunt.

As for this retarded argument that a dress is neither for a man or a woman then I'd like to know why nearly every dress ever made is made for a body with hips and boobs. And no, kilts and kimonos and whatever other shit you're trying to pass off as a dress in this context is not.
 
All in all, the idea that a man in a dress is somehow “wrong” is completely unfounded in any sense of logic.

Nothing more logical than gender dysphoria, great article.
 
"Nordic countries" (really just Norway and Sweden) are homogenized between sexes because they undertook a grand experiment to see if men and women would have similar trajectories in life, without environmental stressors and societal barriers in place to manipulate them.
Not only is that not "normal," but it didn't even work. They've been trending in the opposite direction ever since, with that new understanding. No one else needed to attempt it to know what would happen, but good on them for giving it the good old college try anyway.
This article is brazen, nearly as brazen as replying to a story posted in Article & News as if the author isn't just some pajeet writing freelance clickbait for [insert social justice tabloid here] to finance his OnlyFans addiction.
 
This whole article is a bunch of false equivalencies and playing dumb. I could pick apart every bad faith argument being made here, but it all ends in the same place:

When a western man wears a dress for a photo shoot, he is never, ever doing it because it's practical or because he "just feels like it". He's doing it because he's either a pervert, an attention whore, or both.

You can argue about cultural norms all day, but it all comes down to intent. If wearing a dress makes some guy get a boner, then the act of dress wearing is paraphilic by definition. I don't care if he comes from a planet where dressing up as a 4 year old after her first visit to the Disney store is totally normal. If it makes him horny, it's about making him horny. Nothing else.
 
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