Biting the hand that feeds - A brief history of the Kiwi Farms and why A&T is the redheaded stepchild of the site.

[Xarpho]

So, let's see. On one side, we've got all of the political, legal, and business bodies in the existence of man - oh, and religious ones, too.
On the other side, we've got some narcissistic NEETs that all-too-often draw income purely from SSI/SSD equivalents.

Real motley crew, those free speech absolutists. Invaluable to any truly enlightened, euphoric discourse.
I'm sure you'll get there one day, arguing there should be no recourse for sending a bomb threat to a hospital. There wasn't a bomb, officers, so you got PRANKED.
Oh, wait, advocating and trying to change the world is dumb so that's not the plan, so you're... talking to fill up some bytes? You would be a much less depressing person if you were a poe.



Some countries have speech codes which would get in the way of you saying niggerfaggot by getting the popo on your ass.
But even those countries which have had the most robust and the most pliant free speech provisions, like the US, have never once allowed you to make genuine or seemingly genuine terroristic or violent threats without rebuke.

The limits of free speech, to any body that matters and to any person that matters, have never stretched into allowing overt threats and calls to violence.
If someone banning you from twitter for saying niggerfaggot makes you think "we should be allowed to threaten to shoot up schools," you are retarded, should get a job, and should probably move out of the basement.

I'm not saying that banning certain words gives you free reign to make threats that could be seen as "violent threats", but I think that the real fear is that is that there is a "slippery slope" in banning words that will eventually turn into a more "sanitized" KF. (And if you're one of those retards who will just parrot "muh slippery slope is a fallacy", most of the fears that conservatives had a decade ago when this far-left lunacy began to gain traction about 10-15 years ago are now very real).

 

[Looney Troons]

I find that using the n-word in every other post keeps it fresh and doesn’t escalate my need to post in a more extremist fashion

 

[Least Concern]

Nigger you are fucking schizophrenic take your fucking meds

Nice double-post, newfag

 

[Maurice Caine]

Yes. This is why I don't have any sympathy for you @Null. May the worst of pain and suffering follow you for the rest of your pathetic life.

@Thebag$$$ we need your contacts with the serb mafia to neuter the deep state and save the farms bro

 

[Disheveled Human]

Yes. This is why I don't have any sympathy for you @Null. May the worst of pain and suffering follow you for the rest of your pathetic life.

Have you ever considered not logging on to this site, have you ever considered pulling your internet cord out of the wall and seeing friends and family who care about you?

 

[DocHoliday1977]

@Thebag$$$ we need your contacts with the serb mafia to neuter the deep state and save the farms bro

Wait a minute and let me contact the FBI for this post.

 

[Super Book]

I'm not saying that banning certain words gives you free reign to make threats that could be seen as "violent threats", but I think that the real fear is that is that there is a "slippery slope" in banning words that will eventually turn into a more "sanitized" KF. (And if you're one of those retards who will just parrot "muh slippery slope is a fallacy", most of the fears that conservatives had a decade ago when this far-left lunacy began to gain traction about 10-15 years ago are now very real).

I feel like unless there's some more legally threatening third parties coming here and saying "hey you can't say that or you're going to jail" the banning stops here.

 

[Superman93]

I posted this in the thread where Sig got banned, but I'll update it here.

America has the most freeing speech laws in the world. But as with everything, there are limits. And the limits make sense. If you don't agree, you're a stupid faggot who can fuck off. Now, for everyone who wants to stay:

Sig violated the Supreme Court decision which replaced the 'Clear and Present Danger' standard with the 'Imminent lawless action' standard. What is the difference? The imminent threat standard is more specific. Sig violated the imminent threat standard by:

1) He posted he was going to do a violent act at a specific time
2) He posted he was going to do a violent act against a specific group of people
3) He posted he was going to do a violent act against a specific event
4) He posted he was going to do a violent act against a group of people which have already had multiple threats against them

All those meet the criteria for an imminent lawless action. You're a fucking retard for hating Null over this. Sig broke one of the most lenient free speech laws on the Earth, yet drooling retards are criticizing Null over it. Sig couldn't have posted what he did on any fucking country on the face of the planet without getting in trouble.

Honestly, anyone who has a problem with this really can just fuck off. They're just too fucking retarded to post here and are a liability. Any mongolids going "HURR HURURTUR CUCK CUCK CUCK" just go back to fucking 8chan and /pol/ faggot.

Aren't you a AnH mod though? Why didn't you deal with it before Null and the feds had to?

 

[AnOminous]

Only absolute utter fags would blame you for that shit. That was a glowpost beyond belief and you were entirely justified in your actions.

Aren't you a AnH mod though? Why didn't you deal with it before Null and the feds had to?

Maybe he didn't see it. You realize that shithole is really hard to mod, don't you?

 

[Thumb Butler]

I hope it never comes to this:

 

[The Last Stand]

I'm all for free speech, hell, I'll defend your right to call me a stupid redneck or whatever, but when it comes down to posting threats that makes the 900lb gorilla called the Feds start greasing up its cock, you do what you have to do to avoid ending up having your ass look like a jelly donut.

The redneck makes a good point.

@DocHoliday1977 is still clinically insane and stupid.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Spoiler: Whoops, I dropped my spaghetti

Am I a filthy refugee? Yes, but I've listened to Null's podcast for a couple of years now, and I enjoying hearing, and following his trials with this site and the other site he tried to build. It always seems to come back to the same problem these days, if someone doesn't like a website they can spam it with things that draw attention to it and cause major problems for the operator.

The reason I took refuge here is I like having access to the autistic archiving in the political threads, because for the life of me, I would never be able to find certain information that gets posted there, I liked reading the bits on the 3 gorges dam, and seeing the graphs of water levels, and stuff added every so often. All of the archived footage on the summer riots is stuff I would never see on my own. The people who comb twitter and livestreams for clips deserve really hot waifus for that service, and so does Null for keeping the lights on, so we can actually see it. That's why I enjoy those parts of this website, because the places that used to post this kind of information, I would argue, are overran by spam, bots and shills. Obviously I cant prove this definitively, it's just a feeling, but the sheer volume of screeching drowns out any useful information, on the major "quarantine" sites. In 2015 one of those sites was a huge generator and aggregator for election content, it has since been renamed, and is effectively a ghost town now. Everything is just slid.

Do I frequently read the other parts of the website? Do I get enjoyment finding out a very large obese woman has cancer and is going to be in trouble because the chemo won't work for her because she is so large? Not really. Did I laugh at the cobra guy who ate and spilled surstromming on his apartment chair, okay maybe a little. Am I surprised about the in depth analysis on a particular youtubers, most likely botched breast augmentation? Yep. I guess what I am trying to get at is the two sides of the website both address what seem to be taboos, thing's you can't normally talk about.

Will it be sad to see an entire section of this website potentially removed from a result of bad actors? Yes. But since 2015, this seems to be the inevitable consequence in places that allow free speech. It's been a long dusty march these last 5 years, and I feel this site is the end of the line.

I understand moderating the other side of the site must be maddening at times, so it's easier to just punish a large group. This is how we got punished in school, if Rodney fucked up, and hurt some kid with a dodgeball, all the dodgeballs were removed, everyone suffered the consequences, but in real life you know Rodney, you go to school with him, and you can have some social redress after the fact, and make sure Rodney never fucks the group again. In a few weeks the dodgeballs come back, and Rodney is a good boy. On this site the Rodney's come in, shit, and vanish/banned into obscurity leaving the room for the next asshole, the internet is their shield. It's a widespread issue.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with crucifying retards that don't understand the consequences of real threats. Don't waste your time arguing with people who don't have the tens of thousands of hours of experience dealing with online communities.

Spoiler: and some meatballs

People who run, and moderate these places are professionals, and professionals have standards, they are polite, and efficient, and I think the plan to ban everyone who makes real threats, and those supporting the threats just and reasonable. I know it's infuriating that some people cant see this, but they will never see it your way, but don't waste your mental energy on these vampires. I feel like some of them probably do know this, but they feed off the fact that they can make you infuriated. I hear this in the podcasts sometimes, the frustration, and I always hope you just develop a more "fuck you style" Colonel John Matrix your "wrong" attitude to the pricks. Your site is endangered, and if you have to take out the bigger hammer to protect it, and your own sanity, then that's what you need to do. glhf.

 

[Looney Troons]

Aren't you a AnH mod though? Why didn't you deal with it before Null and the feds had to?

Because that’s not how these complaints work. It was likely reported with screen captures, so removing it or trying to “cover it up” would have been pointless. The complaints don’t go to the moderators, they go directly to Null.

Sig fucked up. It doesn’t matter how many shekels he tossed at Null. I’m not going to suck on Null’s dick because it doesn’t benefit me, but you’d be blind if you cannot see that he is constantly falling on his own blade to keep the lights on here. If someone does some blatantly stupid shit, why sacrifice yourself for fodder?

 

[This Is Not An Exit]

Why can't everyone just leave dad alone to feed his fat slavic tranny girlfriend.

 

[Thebag$$$]

@Thebag$$$ we need your contacts with the serb mafia to neuter the deep state and save the farms bro

yes i have the capabilities.

 

[AnOminous]

Am I a filthy refugee?

I don't even know you but if you're asking you probably are.

 

[themasterlurker]

Didn't Null say he was going to start taking more of a dictatorous stance on things because libertarianism is dead?

 

[DocHoliday1977]

The redneck makes a good point.

@DocHoliday1977 is still clinically insane and stupid.

You are dipshit losers who put your real pictures and names to your shit. I hope you and your rejected daddy can cope.

yes i have the capabilities.

I have plenty of space in my backyard.

 

[usernames can change now!]

1. Don't glowpost
2. Don't complain if you're banned for glowposting
Seems simple enough tbh

 

[The Last Stand]

You are dipshit losers who put your real pictures and names to your shit. I hope you and your rejected daddy can cope.

I'm a black and white Caucasian actress who has risen from the dead to torment YOU of all people.

At this moment in time.