Biting the hand that feeds - A brief history of the Kiwi Farms and why A&T is the redheaded stepchild of the site.

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You know it's funny that politispergs whose lives are consumed by politics and nothing else shit everything else they touch. Feel the need to make everything political when it's not. Feel that the justification for doing so is that their politics are more important than having fun or enjoying life. That their opponents are evil monsters backed by government institutions that are out to get them. Then they use that confirmation bias to assume the government is out to get them when they make a decision that they don't like.

Really goes to show that despite hating SJWs, the Right wing politispergs are no different from them, and honestly despite participating in that 2020 election thread, all the spergs there that do stupid shit get on my nerves who can't even understand the site culture. They fucking act like they are adults who are discussing serious issues despite being thin skinned over anyone to the left of them or daring to have fun.
What really gets me is the people who are brazenly partisan. I've encountered people who will bitch and act all virulently hateful of a politician who hasn't been in power for 20 years, and then bob on the dick of a politician that does exactly what the guy from 20 years ago did that had made them allegedly so buttthurt. Or even 5 years ago, or 10 years ago......

Its fun to fuck with them by telling them Hitler quotes and tell them that some leftist politician said it, or dig up my favourite historical lolcow tommy douglas and get them slobbering on his dusty old knob, then drop this deuce.
 
Surprising amount of faggotry in this thread. This sort of senescent, grape-brained philosophizing is very reminiscent of the comments section under a newspaper article.

The real issue is that people now very commonly communicate through the personal property of individuals or corporations who are held liable for threats to the present order. Threats of political violence (perhaps the only way to have any affect on politics presently) in this sense are precisely the same as naughty words getting you banned from facebook. The facebook man fears the word nigger, because it will cause him strife, in advertising and amongst his public. Null does not because his user base does not hold him to that standard. He does, however fear the security apparatus of the american government because they can reach him. I also sense Josh has changed with age and become more cautious. Perhaps some of the riskier moves he made in the past he would not have made if they were presented today. But this is merely guess work on my part.

Any pseudo-philosophizing on the supposed limits of free speech is entirely vacuous. It shows an ignorance of the concept of freedom, which itself is quite complicated, and of the power structures which are actually at work drawing borders with false moralizing. Of course the papal authority will find Luthers theses beyond the bounds of proper speech. Of course the Austro hungarian monarchy will despise the manifestos of serb nationalists. Obviously Americans will resent the crusading tone of islamic pamphleteers. There isn't an objective line for free speech, merely differing power structures vying for control of moral authority so they can most effectively censor their opposition.

None of this is any sort of criticism of Josh, who I rather like and hope makes the best possible decisions for himself going forward. Instead I merely want to point out that those of you falling into the stupid person's cliche of rationalizing their feelings with simplistic and retarded pseudo philosophy, are faggots. Amen.
pseudo-philosophizing? nigger you just wrote a book about how you're too retarded to grasp https://www.law.cornell.edu/constit...government-restraint-of-content-of-expression

if you're a poe bravo but if you're some line cook in bumfuck, give us a shout whenever you get around to seeing if there's a different consequence to announcing you're going to shoot your local officials and saying niggerfaggot on facebook
 
Eh, if you weren't aware of Sig's prolific shitposting beforehand, then the post that he got banned for reads like a straight-up glowpost without a hint of irony, especially considering the context of the thread he posted it in. No matter how you feel about the guy, you have to admit he crossed the line with that one.
Oh I had a small acquaintance kind of thing with sig (well we really only crossed paths a few times) so I kinda knew him from past posts

I guess the best way to say it is “there’s far and then there’s too far”
 
Hey, it's your boy @SIGSEGV. Since @Null is a retard and didn't ban my obvious sock, I wanted to tell you that you're a fucking nigger and should kill yourself immediately, because my fedpost was meant to mock retards just like you. And to all of the people talking shit about me now that I'm banned: you're cowards for holding your tongues until I ate a (completely justified) ban.
Sig, you were a based nigga. Thanks for the fun. Getting misty eyed here. Who's gonna help me wind up Autphag now? You never finished the mafia song either!


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pseudo-philosophizing? nigger you just wrote a book about how you're too retarded to grasp https://www.law.cornell.edu/constit...government-restraint-of-content-of-expression

if you're a poe bravo but if you're some line cook in bumfuck, give us a shout whenever you get around to seeing if there's a different consequence to announcing you're going to shoot your local officials and saying niggerfaggot on facebook
It might come as a surprise to you that american constitutional law is not the extent of philosophical truth. But yes linking irrelevant legal documents is a form of 'pseudo-philosophizing', thank you for making the example.

Also your obsession with people's line of work is pathetic, petty, and has the foul odour of projection about it.
 
I am asking, because I have no idea what's enough to get contacted by FBI. I've always thought, that non-specified threats are not enough, but it seems I was wrong. Where are the boundaries?
I'm pretty sure Null wishes the boundaries were clear, but HE is not the one making the determination. As far as the "authorities" who are making that determination, just go with the assumption that people of bad faith and ill will, who are not fond of Null, this site, or YOU, are deciding what's sufficient to trigger an FBI response.

A small degree of restraint should, I say should, obviate the need for any drastic action on the part of site administration. Which "degree of restraint" goes against all that is 'tismy and lulzful, I agree. But that is the "1984-with-smiley faces-and Soma" world we live in, sry.
 
SIGSEGV's post was just asking for trouble, ironic or otherwise. The fact is he sent a true, credible threat with state intent at a specific location and a specific target. That Null was contacted by the FBI should surprise no one. Null continues to sacrifice much of his life keeping his site alive, and to see others take it for granted and act spiteful when someone they share sympathies with gets banned is simultaneously disheartening and disgusting. These people have no skin in the game and have nothing to lose when the chips are down. You people are cancer. Thus, I fully support his decision to ban SIGSEGV. When you fedpost, you ruin it for everyone. There is nothing on this site worth expressing such sentiments over.

On the other hand, it seems the people clamoring for A&N and Happenings's respective removal just want to desperately "own the cons" because they lost too many debates, thus are acting in bad faith. As others have pointed out, the incriminating post happened in the Deep Thoughts board as opposed to the other two, so the burden of proof is on you to show that a causal link exists between those two boards and motivations to fedpost.

Yes, the express purpose of this site is documenting eccentric behavior and mocking the entirely willful decisions of stupid people. I am not blind to the fact that site is chiefly for having fun. However, mocking idiots and having serious discussions are not mutually exclusive. Kiwifarms is one of the few places on the internet where people of any political background, provided they're levelheaded and humble, can civilly discuss everything from idiots on the internet to serious issues, usually together. Some will actually drop relevant knowledge whenever a retard like MovieBob utters a mindnumbingly stupid take on a particular issue which not only clears the air but explains why said cow is stupid. Kiwifarm is for more than just shitposting, people. Believe it or not, you can actually learn something.

There are many who like to focus on politics, namely myself, because normie-friendly sites like Reddit, Twitter and Facebook all effectively act as progressive hugboxes in being moderated by similarly minded people eager censor virtually everyone to the right of Bill Burr. It's also telling a huge swath of the people of interest and communities are full of such people which explains why they're so eager to censor. The other issue is IBs and alternative sites like Voat are both echo chambers and e-ghettos with little to no traffic and people who act in bad faith from the other side. You cannot grow if your ideas cannot be meaningfully challenged, so there is no point in having discussions there. It seems the only purpose of such sites are for unproductive purity spirals.

Anyway, that's my take on this. Remember, when you're mad at the internet, just walk away from the screen.
 
I encourage anyone without temperament, who cannot physically bring themselves out of a constant state of anger, to ask this question that has been answered so many times before:

Where did the American Revolution succeed where the French Revolution failed?
Guillotines don't rally a fucking cause.

If the asshats in any political movement want to be successful, the war of ideas changes minds and rallies people to victory. A war of simple bloodshed alone will only lead to suffering. You want counter revolutionaries? Do the stupid thing and unleash your anger without control.
 
I'm new but I'm surprised at the entitlement of so many of these people who are complaining. Do they not remember what it is like on small websites or has the gigantic growth of places like Reddit, Facebook and Twitter where companies are big enough to eat lawsuits for breakfast, erased everyone's memory of how to behave when they leave that bubble. It might be less regulated when you leave but it's still not exactly the wild west out here. Irl laws still apply.
If you're going to partake in an independent website show some goddamn consideration for the owner and for everyone else who would like to continue using it unmolested by the feds, please and thank you very much.
I cannot believe how many people got shitty at the idea that maybe, just maybe, Null has to comply with the law or the country he hosts this server in.

Edit: also yes kill the politics, by telling people you're not here to host their autism, but then hosting their autism, they don't believe you. I enjoy A&H but its probably honestly better for the site if it goes.
 
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As much as I've enjoyed SIGs posts, the optics on that one where just real bad. Anyone familiar with his posts on the site knows that he obviously isn't going to do something that terrible. Though it was very in your face and just in general is in bad practice. At this stage in the game it's more of a matter of knowing better, especially when it comes to posting in that section of the website. Glow in the darks lurk this site isn't shocking considering how much activity happens by the day on here.

After all this is a gossip site that's main function was to essentially discuss and archive an autistic tranny. I couldn't really see the joke in the post myself, and I feel it wasn't in good taste. People being fucking retarded in A&H isn't anything new, and this post feels more like a spergy /pol post. As much I'll miss reading some of his posts, just sets itself as an example to dial tone it down on the forum.
 
As much as I've enjoyed SIGs posts, the optics on that one where just real bad. Anyone familiar with his posts on the site knows that he obviously isn't going to do something that terrible.
Sure it was satire, but I'm amused at your faith in anonymous people on the internet.
 
Noo, don't kick out all those insane retards who have been making popular threads unreadable by devolving them into political circlejerks about democrats, trannies and blacks regardless of the topic at hand. How are they supposed to save the West without forcing their shitty ass political views into everything like pathetic sad bitch activists that they are!?
 
Noo, don't kick out all those insane retards who have been making popular threads unreadable by devolving them into political circlejerks about trannies and blacks regardless of the topic at hand. How are they supposed to save the West without forcing their shitty ass political views into everything like pathetic sad bitch activists that they are!?
Joined 8 minutes ago... hmmm
 
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