🐱 Mum 'shamed' for calling Santa 'Father Christmas'

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A Plymouth mum says she has been ridiculed online for calling Santa 'Father Christmas' - as the name isn't gender neutral.

The local mum says she was 'shamed' on a group on social media for discussing a children's Christmas book and talking about 'Father Christmas' as 'Santa is now seen as gender neutral' and is many parents' preferred name for the jolly character in the red suit.

The unnamed parent, who has a young child, says she has been left feeling 'on edge' since the comments picked on her and doesn't want to offend anybody if saying 'Father Christmas' is 'hurtful' to someone.

Now, hundreds of parents have taken to social media to share their views on the gender-neutral Santa Claus debate.

The mum said: "I've just been shamed [on a Facebook group] for using the name 'Father Christmas' and [told] that 'Santa' is now seen as gender neutral.

"I was only referring to the book below ['Father Christmas' by Raymond Briggs] but it's left me a little confused/on edge about what we are aloud [sic] to say.

"I have a small child and don't really want to raise him saying 'Father Christmas' if it's hurtful to some."

While Brits typically say 'Father Christmas,' Americans and those living in the USA usually say 'Santa Claus,' - but the question of whether the jolly man should have a gender-neutral name seems to be a new debate this year.

Certainly the most famous man in the world has lots of different names.

While 'Santa/Santa Claus' and 'Father Christmas' are arguably the most common, 'Saint Nick/Saint Nicholas' is the preferred name for many families on both sides of the Atlantic.

And in Europe, the jolly man has various different names.


In France, the name for the man in the red suit is 'Pere Noel', similar to Italy's 'Babbo Natale' which both translate to 'Father Christmas'.

In Germany the typical name used is 'Weihnachtsmann' (Christmas Man) and in Hungary and Poland it's 'Mikulas' and 'Mikolaj' respectively - both translating as [St] Nicholas.

In Russia, the name 'Ded Moroz' translates as 'Grandfather Frost'.

Local parents are divided.

'It's easier for littlies to say'​

One mum said: "Santa is so American, Father Christmas here and will always be Father Christmas."

"It's always a man," she added.

One dad agreed, he said: "It is Father Christmas, we are English not American! This gender neutral stuff is way out of hand."



But another parent disagreed, she said: "I must be the only one who hates 'Father Christmas', I much prefer 'Santa/Santa Claus,' plus it's easier for littlies to say."
One mum said: "Father Christmas is fine! We have always used that in our family!! Use what YOU want."
While another added: "Carry on calling him Father Christmas, it's your choice."
Others noted that people in the LGBTQ+ community do not seem to be asking for the name to be changed.
 
Open your easy they behave like freaking NKVD And THEY ARE WINNING. so we can either do the nice kind think or we CAN ACTUALLY FIGHT AND HAVE CHANCE TO WIN.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of people are listening and a lot more don't care. They'll just say Father Christmas in their own company. In the meantime, if you want to talk about this stuff with this much vitriol, there are places for that out there.

But everyone here is too tired with politics this pointless discussed this poorly with people like you.

You can have the last word, but if you aren't enjoying yourself here anymore then you should go. For your own sake.
 
Bloomin' disgraceful. But seriously "Santa Claus" is derived from the Dutch "Sinterklaas" meaning "Saint Nicholas" so it's hardly gender neutral.
 
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It sounds like somebody was fucking with her or making a joke, but who knows with things being the way they are in current year + 5
 
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Others noted that people in the LGBTQ+ community do not seem to be asking for the name to be changed.
Anyone who thinks this is an argument either for or against needs to be disenfranchised, holy fuck
 
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